Discontinued Vapolution vaporizer

[max]

They've changed the shell/housing somewhat. I don't know about any internal changes.

It's just a 2.0 of the old on, supposedly fixing the problem with the mica insulation annihilating the temp knob. It's still too expensive for what it does IMO, money would be better spent on the Q, dbv or herbalaire if you want that kind of unit.

The Extreme and herbalAire are not "that kind of unit". They're dual mode vapes. The Vapo, like the DBV, is a variation on the basic box/whip vape. There have been some problems with the temp dial on the Vapo, but I've had two of 'em for almost 5 yrs. now, and neither has had a problem. As for being too expensive for what it does, the price has dropped to $99- you get an all glass vapor path, smooth hits, optional battery pack, and 12V design for easy car or boat use. IMO it's the best buy on the market for a whip/direct draw vape in the low price category. Show me something else that competes with it for a bill.

 

[charliedontsurf]

Da Bhudda can be had for like 140 online, and its female GonG with screen is a far better method than the tube-crammed-with-solid-material bowl of the vapolution. I've found the vapolution to be pretty unimpressive, and I think its method of heat generation (a glass test tube surrounded with nichrome wire) is a very 70's dorm room approach to a vaporizer. The 99 dollar unit is the Version 1, of which many have had their temperature dials die on them. The 149 one is the new one, which claims to have solved it. One point for the Vapolution people is that they apparently have very good customer service, or so I've heard. The Extreme Q can be had for 169 with free shipping right now on Ebay - which one would you rather have? The one with a real bowl with a real screen with fantastic versatility, or the test tube wrapped in nichrome, insulated by loose mica?

I counted the Herbalaire and Extreme as being comparable kind of units because they all do whips, but those also do bags and have better bowl designs. The Vapolution to me seems like the sort of vape someone would buy only if they were unaware of other, similarly priced models which do the same job better, as well as other jobs.

 

[robert denby]

I actually called the vapolution people when the 2011 came out last month and while they changed the housing, the only other difference in the production of the new model is that they were able to make it half as heavy as the old one.
maybe less mica?
maybe lighter housing material?

i asked if anything internally had changed about the device or its heating system and he said no, just the weight and housing design (which he said was done specifically done deal with the mica clogging up the temp dial issue)

i love my old model, and ive been using it daily for a while now.
i cant wait for the weather to get warmer because i will take this baby anywhere!

once you figure out how it works and how to use it, it becomes a VERY impressive little vape

 

[max]

Da Bhudda can be had for like 140 online

7th Floor has been cracking down on low ball sellers, and I doubt you'd get a warranty by buying from xyz at that low of a price on eBay.

I've found the vapolution to be pretty unimpressive

I've found it to be quite satisfying, other than the harder than normal loading due to no screen. I used it as my main direct draw vape for a couple of years.

I think its method of heat generation (a glass test tube surrounded with nichrome wire) is a very 70's dorm room approach to a vaporizer.

To be accurate, it's not really surrounded. Where did you get the 70's analogy? I doubt anyone in a dorm in the 70's had any clue about vaporizing. I assume that's just your way of expressing complete disdain for the design. Would you rather hit a model where the vapor path goes through an up to date (but cheap) ceramic element that gets oxidized with use? Ceramic is the element of choice these days, but they're not all created equal, and most are in the vapor path. When the nichrome wire is isolated from the vapor path, it's a very safe heating source.

The Extreme Q can be had for 169 with free shipping right now on Ebay

Again, with no warranty from Arizer. Have you missed all the talk about Arizer, iolite, and 7th Floor cracking down on sellers? These models need to be purchased from authorized dealers to get a factory warranty.

which one would you rather have?

I'd rather have the Vapolution. The E draws air in through the electronics, while the Vapo's path is glass only. I don't care for the direct draw hits from this design, or some of the ergonomics. Just a personal preference.

I counted the Herbalaire and Extreme as being comparable kind of units because they all do whips, but those also do bags

IMO every dual mode vape on the market is a compromise for direct draw, vs. similarly priced (or lower priced) direct draw only models. I'd rather hit the Vapo than either the HA or the E. The new Vapo design is priced at $175-not nearly as good of a price as $99, but IMO still a vape worth considering since a 12% FC discount takes it down to $154. And the All in Wonder bowl (stupid name ) takes this model to a different level IMO.

You're entitled to your opinion, and we obviously disagree. No vape is going to get 100% universal approval. That's why it's nice that there are so many options available.

i cant wait for the weather to get warmer because i will take this baby anywhere!

The 12V design and optional BP are additional features that make it a good choice as a home/portable unit. I've used mine as a portable quite a bit in the past.

 

[robert denby]

each day i love this little baby more and more!

 

[VaporNation]

Honestly, I wasn't the biggest fan of the Vapolution 1.0. It seemed a little awkward and unappealing. However, they have definitely improved on their product with the Vapolution 2.0. Not only does it look 10x better, but it works beautifully. I'm able to pack the "bowl", without having to grind my herbs, and get amazing CLEAN rips on this thing. No nasty taste of plastic or metal. The glass on glass heating system is pretty awesome. It's also really simple to operate - you just turn it on, wait a few minutes, and start vaporizing. No unneccessary or confusing buttons. Basically, I'm really digging this Vapolution 2.0.

 

[max]

I'm able to pack the "bowl", without having to grind my herbs

Nothing has changed as far as the bowl system. I wouldn't advise really packing the bowl, since too big of a piece of herb can inhibit the air flow, and also leave the back end of the herb chunk unvaporized. And grinding for this system is not advised. The glass dimple, as a screen, won't keep ground herb from getting up into the upper part of the bowl and/or tubing. But once you get the hang of proper loading, it's pretty easy to use. I don't like that they've raised the price to $175 though. IMO you have to really covet the glass vapor path and/or the portability aspect to justify the price, vs. bigger hitting whip models.

 

[ebbnflow]

I just found a discount code for the new Vapolution 2.0 while I was in my local dispensary today. It is good for $25 off any vaporizer order. I thought I would share the love. MMJ25 I am not sure how long it is good for. Use it while you can.

 

[Atty]

Hiya,

long time no post.

I saw that a new Vapolution was doing the rounds, and is available for 100 in the UK, making it about the cheapest non-generic whip vape I've found online so far. It looks pretty cool, too - definitely an improvement on the old design in terms of aesthetics.

I was thinking of getting one, but I've read people saying that there's no screen. Just to clarify, do they mean that there's no screen inside the actual Vapoultion unit to stop bud falling in? Or that there's no screen in the whip to stop you sucking fragments through? Ideally I'd like a vaporizer I can use both ground and unground gear on.

Thanks,
Atty.

 

[picklebarrel]

Hiya,

long time no post.

I saw that a new Vapolution was doing the rounds, and is available for 100 in the UK, making it about the cheapest non-generic whip vape I've found online so far. It looks pretty cool, too - definitely an improvement on the old design in terms of aesthetics.

I was thinking of getting one, but I've read people saying that there's no screen. Just to clarify, do they mean that there's no screen inside the actual Vapoultion unit to stop bud falling in? Or that there's no screen in the whip to stop you sucking fragments through? Ideally I'd like a vaporizer I can use both ground and unground gear on.

Thanks,
Atty.

I don't have a vapolution, but I did a bunch of research on them so I can answer your questions. There are no screens in any part of the vapolution- it's all glass. There is no screen to stop herbs from falling into the heating chamber and just a glass dimple to stop you from sucking fragments through.

 

[Atty]

Picklebarrel - Huh, interesting. I can understand wanting a glass vapor path, but that seems a bit overcautious given that breathing through good quality stainless steel isn't going to do you any harm.

Thanks for the info.

 

[polydesignlab]

being a cheap ass, i ave gone through three vapes that i did not find satisfactory; Vapir No2, Vapor Bros, and a Hot Box.

again, going against many opinions, i bought a Vapolution (original). why? number one reason was price point; ($99 incl shipping and an all-in-wonder bowl (i know dumb name)). followed by 2) made in the USA 3) lifetime warranty and from what i've read, excellent customer service 4) glass on glass 5) size and portability option.

compared to other vapes there is limited info on the Vapolution. after using this forum for my own needs i felt compelled to contribute my opinion.

having researched this thing i felt i was pretty prepared for out of the box use with a minimal learning curve...

1st attempt 100% success! dial at 12 using the AIWB delivered a solid four hits. did i mention that i LOVE the carb.

2nd attempt FAIL (i got cocky) packed to tight.

3rd attempt FAIL: packed to tight

4th attempt SUCCESS (but had a little difficulty: switched to material that had more moisture in it) started at 12 o' clock but wasn't getting much vapor. thought i packed it too tight (again). checked the air flow and all was well. turned the dial to approximately 2 o' clock and voila' a solid vapor experience.

I would really like to have another go at it, but i need to remain semi-coherent. it's currently plugged in and at operating temp. will most likely partake sooner than later... i like the notion that it's ready to go and i don't have to wait for it to heat up...immediate gratification.

so the first time i vaped was around 1997 with one of those globe thingy's. i've tried a handful since then (including the Volcano, SSV, and DBV). i have owned the devices mentioned above. i have to say the i'm diggin' the vapolution! great vapor delivery with fairly low consumption, packed into a small weird lookin' shell...pretty cool. hands down this is the most effective, fast, and efficient vape that i've owned. two thumbs up. would recommend

 

[max]

The original Vapo is a real bargain IMO, especially if you can find one that includes the AIW bowl. I just recommended this same package in a thread in Ask FC- $110 delivered w/AIW bowl included. You do have to load it right-not to big and not too small (although loading small is much easier once the bowl gets a little residue in it), and leaving the bowl sitting in the heating chamber too long isn't a good idea. But the vapor path is 100% glass, and the AIW bowl turns this into a (one) hand held vape if you like. Hits are a bit thicker than with a log vape, but the narrow bowl does restrict air flow more than with the typical whip vape. I was always able to get good hits at 12 on the dial, but draw speed has to be accounted for.

The new version (2.0) is also a good buy on eBay, going for a little over $130, but I doubt you find the AIW bowl ($20) included at that price. And the wider base on the new version makes me wonder if it's as user friendly as a hand held vape. Either version is a good, reliable performer though, and hard to beat at (or close to) the $100 price point.

 

[Egzoset]

I only heard about its non-grinding/non-strirring features (v2.0) a few minutes ago tonight and that's not because i didn't ask around about vaporizers having those very same characteristics as the HerbalAire. Maybe it's not qualified as a true competitor but i'd still would have prefered to find this information sooner!...

Thanks Max for leaving a relevant mention behind.

 

[charliedontsurf]

A thread about pure airpaths led me to break out the Vapolution, to good results, better than I'd previously had. The Allinwonder bowl, at full temperature, and with two screens inserted into the bowl, makes an absolutely wonderful way to vaporize solid concentrates. You get nice pieces of unburnt but completely depleted charcoal that break into black dust - completely cashed. The taste is very nice and efficiency very high. I've had mine up for sale for a long time but am glad I gave it another go with this method, as it's made me feel much more positive about the Vapolution as a whole.

 

[max]

vaporizers having those very same characteristics as the HerbalAire

They both do better with pieces of herb, vs. ground, but the HA is much easier to load (just dump any size piece in, that will easily fit) and has temp control that requires little to no user input. The Vapo can be a chore to load just right, but not so bad once the bowl gets a little sticky, which really helps to keep small pieces in place. You can even install a home made screen and then load ground bud, although that's gonna be more trouble and more messy.

The Allinwonder bowl, at full temperature, and with two screens inserted into the bowl, makes an absolutely wonderful way to vaporize solid concentrates.

IMO, anyone with a Vapo is really missing out if they don't have the AIW bowl. The buddy bowl has the same easy to use angle, where the glass meets the vape, but the AIW bowl turns it into a hand held (one hand free) unit with a 100% glass vapor path. And yeah, it should work great for hash.

 

[charliedontsurf]

Here's a quick video of the vapolution through some water filtration, showing off the surprising vapor density it can achieve. The small stem is being used, IME it seems to provide denser vapor than the large size. Sorry for the nasty looking DBV tubing.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1zc6FN9W1hY

 

[OhTheAgony]

Wow, that thing really goes after the first few hits man! Nice

I have no idea how the bowl looks on this thing though, it looked like you sticked a downstem in there. But since this thread is only 4 pages short I guess I'll just read it & learn some more about this one. It seems a good vape to recommend to newbies because of it's relative low price point.

Thanks for the vid! Is the other one in the makings as well? ...I'm about to order one so I can have it for the weekend...

 

[max]

It seems a good vape to recommend to newbies because of it's relative low price point.

That statement looked wrong to me, since I took it as vapor newbie=cash poor, but it's correct if you're talking about not wanting to spend a lot if you're not sure that vapor is for you. You can buy the Vapo and an AIW bowl any time on eBay for $120 delivered-a great deal. The only downside to this model for a newbie (well, a couple actually) is that you have to learn how to load the bowl and how long to leave it in the heating chamber. This model has stood the test of time though-an oldie but a goodie.

 

[OhTheAgony]

Yeah you're right, that should have been "newbies with a lower budget". But it can be an option for everyone who can't or doesn't want to pay the price for lets say a SSV of course.

Unfortunately I haven't actually used one of these myself, but from what I gather it seems that this may not be as easy to use for everyone. But I always try to recommend people to look deeper in to the vapes they are interested in themselves to get an idea of how they work and perform, it's up to them to decide which one would suit them best.

Still nice to see a unit in this price range gets this much credit from experienced vaporists like you and Charlie, unfortunately there aren't that many models in this category who can say the same.

 

[max]

The Vapo isn't for those seeking an easy as pie, no learning curve model. It's actually a connoisseur type vape. The hits are comparable to a log vape, due to the narrow bowl, but you do have temp control. And it's hard to beat an all glass vapor path. If you were compiling a list of 'best buy vapes', I think this one would definitely make the cut.

 

[charliedontsurf]

Glad you liked the video, Agony. The bowl is essentially a glass tube with a small dimple pressed in halfway through, acting as a glass screen and keeping larger particles from entering the whip or mouthpiece. There is a little art and skill to acquire in perfectly packing a Vapolution tube, but it's easily mastered and you can even use a set of screens to use ground herbals, as Max has mentioned before.

It really is a connoisseur vape, with literally the purest airpath that comes to mind of any vaporizer if you use the AIW bowl, as there is not even a screen, just 100% glass.

 

[OhTheAgony]

Crap, are you guys trying to have me add yet another vape to my wish list or what?

I think I'm gonna keep my eyes open for a cheap used version of one of these, it's actually one of the vapes I had my eyes on when I was researching my first vape last year, & even though I don't want to end up with 20 or even 10 different vapes I'd still like to try one if I can get it for under 50 euro's or so. If I had talked to you and Max back then I'd probably would have gone with this one instead of the SSV, since getting the SSV meant upping my originally set budget more then once..

On the other hand, if I had gone that route I'd probably still be lusting after and wondering about the SSV right now. Never mind

How much would you say was in that bowl you used in the video Charlie?

 

[charliedontsurf]

.1? .15? Very middling quality stuff.

There are definite advantages to a DBV or SSV over the Vapolution, mostly in ease of loading the bowl and the benefits of ground herbals, and IMO a much reduced partial-conduction nature. That nature I find cuts into what would otherwise be completely awesome flavor, and it means you kind of have to speed through a bowl to get the absolute most out of it, just like say the Herbalaire or Iolite.

The vapolution has a purer airpath and the option of using direct draw. If you can get a cheap used one, jump on it, but otherwise I'd put that money in the Cloud fund. But I'm still really glad I busted mine out and gave it another chance, I just need to order some cheap new 7th floor tubing because this length is pretty rank.

 

[biojuggernaut]

I wouldn't mind pairing this up with the aqua inline cooler. Can I make it fit to the AIW bowl?