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Discussion in 'Portable Vaporizers' started by spyder, Jul 3, 2008.

  1. gn0me

    gn0me gnonsensical Manufacturer

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    In a torch flame, the inner cone (the dense, bright blue section that looks like a laser) is actually the coldest part of the flame - it's all unburned fuel gas and air. The hottest part of the flame is just after where the tip of the inner cone ends, when all that unburned fuel actually starts to combust. In lampwork, the inner cone can actually leave a line of cold glass where you were heating - it's a very strange effect.
     
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  2. VaporNinja

    VaporNinja Majihuana Enthusiast

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  3. Abysmal Vapor

    Abysmal Vapor Shaman of The Pyramid of Orlin'Malah

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    Is that after 3 years of use ? You seem to take very good care of you stuff vaporninja :). I admire that !.
    Can you show us the other side ?
     
  4. Stone__Man

    Stone__Man Active Member

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    thx VN , I'm rather shocked it looks that good, every one I have seen pics of ,(including the ones from site photo u posted wtih green background, the upper wood part gets darker.
    have u really used this like all the time for 3 years? and if so, please do tell your cleaning regiment , process, as that baby looks new, little spotting on the bowl but holy moly she's a beauty :) thanks again ;)

    like AV says we need to peek up under her skirt :p lol


    and the beer cap is what? your typical load size? enough to just cover bottom of beer cap is what you use then. just guessing here :p
     
  5. Abysmal Vapor

    Abysmal Vapor Shaman of The Pyramid of Orlin'Malah

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    Well a true ninja moves smooth never living signs of his presence (no prints,no foot steps .etc. ) ... So VaporNinja in the same way doesn't leave marks of usage on his vapes.. :D
     
  6. VaporNinja

    VaporNinja Majihuana Enthusiast

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    just use a q-tip soaked with a bit of iso to clean the bowl, best to do it once every few days, so resins don't build up. The mouthpiece is new, and it'll eventually get darker when it's soaked with resin. the beer cap is for drying the herb, it holds 3 bowls worth of herb.. I put the cap on top of a desk lamp to dry it out a bit before vaping :)
     
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  7. Abysmal Vapor

    Abysmal Vapor Shaman of The Pyramid of Orlin'Malah

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    VaporNinja.. Can you post pic of the other side of the vapman ? The heating section ?
    So is that vapman on the picture had 3 years of use ? If so that side looks nice.. but lets see the other side plz :).
     
  8. Stone__Man

    Stone__Man Active Member

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    @VN awww I see. new top bit. I was thinking well there is no way that thing has been used 3 years. thats why I asked how u cleaned it to keep it in new look /color.

    I like the cap idea, makes sense to me :) and simple. so long as u take out the rubbery bit inside cap that is there to create seal.

    so are you extra careful when using this with regard to flame? or should I assume that the heat shield does NOT get blackened? I would love to see up under that skirt ol' buddy. :p
    if this is the case I could lean towards getting one that has heat shield, even if just for the aesthetic of it not being blacked and charred.

    I'm getting really excited about this vape, as it will be my very first , and I have decided I am going to purchase one of these. I will share photos once I get it. I may get a lithe as well not sure about that one just yet, but I AM sure I want a VapMan :)

    someone said, AV perhaps? that you can still get burnt on this like u can on the lithe or supreme, I could be wrong but i just don't see that happening, you would have to TRY to burn yourself with this design, every thing that gets hot is within the space of the "hand ring" , you would have to stick your finger up in the bottom to do so. Plus I would THINK you could put it back in its "EGG" right after use and have no problems of heat or melting of egg or any such. just guess, but also guessing I'm right lol

    If that assumption is off the mark, those that have one, pls do tell.

    @VN interesting reading material too :) me likey ;)
     
  9. Abysmal Vapor

    Abysmal Vapor Shaman of The Pyramid of Orlin'Malah

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    Well This guy is keep avoiding the question.. about if the vapman is 3 years old and.. about whats on the other side... Also having in mind his hyping FC character.. i won't take his words to be true..
    He would just say.. yes it is my 3 years old vapman if it was...
    VN will you answer.. and stop avoiding... + Can you tell us if you are going to be able.. to shoot the other side.. Are you ashamed of it ?
     
  10. Stone__Man

    Stone__Man Active Member

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    hehe take it easy AV, its only been a day mate ;) it could be he has life to tend to, or trails to hike :D

    I've thought of another Q of those that have one. and can't believe I didn't think to ask before this lol

    How many Hits do you get per bowl?

    pls and thx
     
  11. Abysmal Vapor

    Abysmal Vapor Shaman of The Pyramid of Orlin'Malah

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    Well he has 5 posts since you asked.. for pics.. + 4th post is a pic of very good looking vapman.. which i cannot believe has taken 3 years of use..
    I need only his answer so won't be misleading to future buyers.. (like me)..
    As for hits per bowl.. That is up to how much you heat and how hard you pull..
     
  12. charliedontsurf

    charliedontsurf Glassblower

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    Mellow AV, I'm sure he'll post if he can. Ninja, that's a cool idea with the cap, I trust you removed the little plastic gasket from the underside. Also, do you have any good advice for some new, first time Vapman users?

    To those thinking of buying from the Vapman site, know that it will appear on your statement as "vapman Biel CH," which is obviously lame.
     
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  13. Stone__Man

    Stone__Man Active Member

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    yet more questions. :brow: :ko: thinking about the pics of the one AV had posted up with its pan missing most all the gold. and then at what point bubbles or flaking will happen to the gold.

    will the herbs be blacked WAY before any damage is done to the gold plating? or in other words, actual combustion temps are, half or greater, less than the damage temps that represent damage to the gold? 420 ish and 1100 ish?

    for some reason I can almost smell the middle piece, guessing its very similar to the pungent smell of a tobacco pipe stem.

    I understand the vapman site says its still fully functional without it. functional yes but not as efficient. gold is FANTASTIC at radiating heat. My times with the 'celebration pipe' from Hawaii, with its gold lined bowl, is when i first realised the bennies of gold in a bowl application. ( I miss you C.P.) yet you rarely see it used.
     
  14. Abysmal Vapor

    Abysmal Vapor Shaman of The Pyramid of Orlin'Malah

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    Well.. The guy that sent me those photos said that.. he used with a double torch.. or smth.. and mostly for concentrates... this is why the unit is a bit "scorched" :),
    Hope still holds in VaporNinja's pic... He said the mouthpiece is new , does this mean that the unit is 3 old ? :ninja:
     
  15. WatTyler

    WatTyler Revolting Peasant

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    I have a 70 year old yard broom. It has only had 7 new handles and 9 new brush heads. ;)

    My Vapman is around a year old, although it's only had moderate use. There is some discolouration of the mouthpiece/stem where it meets the screen at the bottom, but there are no markings or scorching on the bottom.
     
  16. VaporNinja

    VaporNinja Majihuana Enthusiast

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    Sorry just been very busy with work and all, and having a hard time locating my digital camera. I will take pics as soon as I find the cam.

    I get about 4-5 Good hits with a bowl. Enough to keep me stoned for hours.

    Yes the unit itself is about 3 years old, I broke the mouthpiece from cleaning it the wrong way with a knife.
     
  17. Abysmal Vapor

    Abysmal Vapor Shaman of The Pyramid of Orlin'Malah

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  18. Stone__Man

    Stone__Man Active Member

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    Look what the cat drug in :brow:

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    even after seeing photos I was amazed how small it is. As you can see early on top and bottom the burning. as time passes I will share more 'burn' photos.

    this being my very first vap, it took a bit of getting used to it. I have found taking a small 'tobacco pipe" huff to see if any vapor is there and if so draw, quite slowly works the best so far. At first I was drawing to hard . I sat and looked at it and thought about HOW it was designed to work, and drawing air too hard lowers the bowl temps to below vap temps, so as stated above a small huff and light draw. Imagine the breath it would take to try to keep a small feather 'floating' around your head and draw in at that rate. Lightly blowing in your girls ear. so fairly light. My logic in doing so is , it seems to keep the bowl at vap temp longer. and that I believe is EXACTLY why they have the three holes in mid section in the vapor stack, to help the user not draw too much cooler air through the pan tubes.

    I can tell you this I am quite happy with my recent acquisition. Its amazing to get ripped on such a small amount of flowers. this is going to save me a LOT of coin.

    few questions for those that have the vapman. I have noticed my stainless steel screen is not tight, even if I torque a bit of the little screw (afraid to break it) it has a back and forth wiggle and right beside the screws of middle section the wood is starting to get... how to say>? um stained, getting darker brown, as the screen is a bit bigger than the mid section wood. I wonder if they are just made that way or if mine is a bit 'off'.

    is this the same on your vapman or not?

    Now I want to try an all glass if I can find a reasonable price on one, I like what I see in the Vapbong, much moreso then the ubie, but its price seems quite high to me. Cause I keep asking myself is this the taste of vapor it self or am I also tasting the wood.

    I really like the funnel tube < weird name. loading ring sounds better to me :) ... funnel maybe but tube no lol
     
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  19. WatTyler

    WatTyler Revolting Peasant

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    congratulations on your entry into the world of vaping Stone__man.

    my stainless screen sounds similar to yours. fine imo.
     
  20. Stone__Man

    Stone__Man Active Member

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    thanks WatTyler :D

    I am gonna post a pic of what I speak of. like I said when I start to consider how this is supposed to work, as far as air intake.

    the 3 tubes are a given they are designed to heat a bit as well as take in cooler air from below.

    the screen seats on the edge of pan, held in its desired location, air surely taken into account there as well, along with all the extra holes in the stainless screen that are outside the diameter of the wood chimney.

    the 3 holes in the wood chimney, as well surely there by design to bring it fresh cool air to mix with the warmed air.
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    but I'm not so sure this looseness and size difference of the screen is part of the design, not sure of course. when holding the stainless screen at its edges below the stainless pin, there is a fair amount of play. It just seems odd considering how tight the other aspects of the design are, like the placement of the tube screws, need to be right on for the stainless screen to seat with the proper amount of tension on the pins.

    Sorry its just me, because as I look at it, and get used to it, it a brilliant design and execution of a vision.

    Right down to its case. the two things ( the only two) things I see off or odd is this screens fit, and wondering why ( as there was thought in this carry case as well) why they/he did not extend the bottom hump higher? "like a Foghorn Leghorn" lump on the noggin :p the loading ring would then rest right against the post mounts and just within the wood , to NOT RATTLE. I know its such a little niggle but, it all feels so RIGHT otherwise.
     
  21. VaporNinja

    VaporNinja Majihuana Enthusiast

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    Stoneman, no need to worry that your screen moves around. They are all like that :) once the screen is lock in place on top of the heating pan, it'll be stable. The reason they make the screen larger than the wooden mouthpiece diameter is because wood can expand when it's in humid condition.
     
  22. snappys

    snappys Well-Known Member

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    Hi Stoneman, I never realized but my screen is a bit loose as well. About 1 year of light use and works quite well. So dont worry and enjoy it. I use a small torch justa few seconds (it's better to be short and get nothing but flavour than be more time and get burning) draw slowly but long. About 4 or 5 draws IMO.
    I have the version with the mica sheet at the bottom.
    Happy vape!
     
  23. Stone__Man

    Stone__Man Active Member

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    thx for the input guys.

    I gave it more consideration and it has to be part of the design as others are the same. Actually seems silly now to think it was not as intended, as everything with this vapman is so well thought out.

    there is however ONE thing I did not like, I said did cause I have remedied my one niggle. The fact that it rattles around in its egg case. I hike a lot and don't like shit jingle jangling around in my pack.

    Here is my fix. Please bear in mind I do NOT put the just used hot , vapman right back into its egg, I let it cool with that said.

    I traced line around riiiteaid headache pill bollle LID onto the (sorry not sure its techical name but its the non skid no slip 'foamy' stuff you can buy anywhere basically) . I cut two circles out and notched them 4 ways so they would not pucker.

    I simply placed one at a time, smoothing each out, dropped the fill ring on it, put the vapman in and eureka NO more RATTLES. :D :D :D

    so cheap so simple, I'm happy. It also stays in place fairly well , I can't even shake them out. a few pics. thought I'd share this tid bit. :2c: I took the one of the vapman sitting in it to show height from top of vapman to edge lip of egg.

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  24. charliedontsurf

    charliedontsurf Glassblower

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    My basic came in the mail today and it's a definite keeper. This thing is absolutely tiny and produces very nice vapor density and flavor and I'm quite happy with it so far. The bowl isn't as small as I feared - I think I'm getting 3-6 good size hits per fill. One thing I like is that it heats quickly, and with a small jet lighter, not a big ass tabletop torch. I may do a more in depth review in the future, but suffice it to say that at the new reduced price, this is a great vaporizer. It's a pretty amazing bargain given its handmade nature, beautiful design, and good vapor production.

    Plugging one of the air holes on the mouthpiece seems to better the vapor to air ratio as some people have mentioned.

    MFLB acrylic mouthpieces fit snugly into the mouthpiece hole of the Vapman, so those who prefer them, or better yet those with glass mflb stems, have an alternative. I was hoping a Q mouthpiece would be narrow enough, but no dice.
     
  25. Stone__Man

    Stone__Man Active Member

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    after 10 days here is how it looks now. I tried to orient them the same as I had the initial photos. from what I can tell the blackened part has gotten a bit larger in 10 days time but not very much. I'd almost be willing to bet this is about the extent of the black expanding, the black area at the middle of the ring should 'char' a bit more and then stop. thats my guess. time will tell.

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    I have been quite happy with learning about vaping and this being my first, I feel if I as a vape n00blet can get fairly consistent results that most anyone can.

    this Vapman has been well thought out, I actually enjoy holding it, rubbing it, getting to know it. so many things were considered that don't readily meet one's eye. like the angles and shape of the wooden ring, it encourages you to hold it in a 'safe' manner. you middle or ring finger can easily move along the nicely rounded over edge of the bottom, while on the top side with the stainless ' pin clips' that can get rather warm, that top edge curves out sharply out and has a rather crisp edge, it discourages you from placing your fingers there, on top over the edge.

    how you hold it.... at first I was cupping it in my hand with index finger and thumb on the white mouth piece and the unit vertical to the ground. This may sound strange but when I hold it like he does in the 'vapman at work' vid its like I somehow automatically would draw lighter then when I cupped it in my hand. and I tend to think the mouth piece and its 'small' feel on the lips also lends to drawing lighter, where a fatter mouth piece we seem to draw harder. maybe I'm crazy but there you have it all the same lol

    I have experimented with load size and grind. I feel it works better for me when I don't fill it so much, or fiddle about poking at it in a packing manner. I grab a small pinch and lightly sprinkle it into the bowl so I can still see the center post, I give it a few light taps on the desk, kinda like dropping it from a quarter inch a few times, it usually will suffice to settle it enough. place the top on ( I make sure it is not putting pressure on the load) rotate top and lock down. *using the S&B grinder, btw.

    I like to rub it as i said, and I notice in just this short time it was starting to darken taking in oils from the skin. Last night I decided to give it a drink of Olive Oil, ever so slight an amount on a paper towel and rubbed it up, it drank it right up. I think it'll be something I do now and then. Doing very little I can see NO harm in it, as it does not even feel "oily" afterwards, just darkens it a tad and brings out the grain a bit.

    so far so good, I'm quite happy with my purchase. Being this is my first vape I wonder how different , if at all, it will taste compared to an all glass. Everyone seems to say flowers are better , cleaner, using glass. I actually LOVE the first hits taste with the vapman, and it seems to diminish with each successive hit. Not sure if that is typical of all vapes or not .

    at first for some reason I was vaping the whole bowl, so experiment with only ONE hit or 2 at a time, seems to work well too. no biggie holding the lighter button an extra 5 secs :p

    I have also changed the padding so there is no rattle in case, I took one of the circles off the bottom and cut just a corner off and shoved in into the top of the case cap. Same result no rattle & less mass. I'd guess a bit of light duty foam would work well, or perhaps felt on the bottom and a wee bit of foam on top.

    I think I may turn a good bud onto vaping, I could perhaps then sell him this one and get a new one. and being that I just love the design and thought put into this product that I will , support the designer and, spend the extra and get the finished one with heat shield. and if he don't want to buy it then I suppose I will have two of them, I like it that much. and its so light.

    And here I was wondering looking at the sigs of some that have this or that vape x2 or x3 lol now I know. I could see this becoming an addiction and one day be one of the guys that have lots or have had lots of vapes lol only time will tell.

    I want to thank everyone in EVERY thread that has replied and has helped/enlightened me in this vaping journey.

    Peace
    Stone__Man
     

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