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Vapman

Discussion in 'Portable Vaporizers' started by spyder, Jul 3, 2008.

  1. Abysmal Vapor

    Abysmal Vapor Shaman of The Pyramid of Orlin'Malah

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    CDS :).. It is very likely that i bet the first one to try one..on FC .. I've been stalked about that model for an year long.. but i never had enough :2c: to get one :) .
    Now an opportunity is revealed.. I am going on martial art training camp tour starting in Athens.. so most likely we will be sponsored by someone.. which means some nice :2c:..
    I've talked to the maker few times about it .. and he claims it is working.. as good as the other vapman... just not as fast.. and effortless.. + IMO it will be a great stealth and warmup item on that trip... LOL.. Other guys will think i train ninjitsu :D
  2. VaporNinja

    VaporNinja Majihuana Enthusiast

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    i do not recommend the basic vapman without heat proof shielding. torch flame is almost invisible under sunlight. unless you only vape at night, it's worth the extra few bucks and get the standard version.
  3. Abysmal Vapor

    Abysmal Vapor Shaman of The Pyramid of Orlin'Malah

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    IMO its up to the user .. and the torch.. For vapman you'll need micro torch.. a big flame will result in both overheating and wood charring (being advised by maker) ..
    Also the heat protection is made from mica(used also in vapolution) .. which is exposed to wear and tear resulting in chipping or dusting off.. I say this because mica is not the safest material to be inhaled. http://www.sciencelab.com/msds.php?msdsId=9926119
  4. VaporNinja

    VaporNinja Majihuana Enthusiast

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    you do not inhale mica off the vapman... and no way u would inhale it in any way... i had mine for 3 years.. the mica is still intact, no flaking..:rolleyes:
  5. charliedontsurf

    charliedontsurf Glassblower

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    On the topic above, if I'm not mistaken then the Basic is missing the mica insulation, at least on the bowl portion. I've collected some photos below. So really the basic might be the best choice for a more health conscious consumer.

    On that note, I emailed the Vapman manufacturers and told them about FC. They said they will consider participating on the forum and that they appreciate that so many people dig their product - they also told me that shipping will be way faster than I was pessimistically expecting, and that they expected no additional import fees for a CA consumer. You can tell that they're cool, friendly people for sure.

    Classic bottom: [​IMG]

    Classic top: [​IMG]

    Basic top, unused and after 6 months usage: [​IMG]

    Basic bottom: see image in post 99.

    http://verdampftnochmal.de/images/product_images/original_images/100_2.jpg
  6. Abysmal Vapor

    Abysmal Vapor Shaman of The Pyramid of Orlin'Malah

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    [​IMG][​IMG]
    Well it has mica inside too .. but it is not exposed to heat,wear and tear(you can aways drop you vapman and crack the mica... or just scratch it when you puting it on some abrasive surface.. Anyway as for heat it is safe till 1500 C Torches burn at 1300 so i dont see much danger if you don't overtorch.[​IMG]
  7. charliedontsurf

    charliedontsurf Glassblower

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    You perceptive bastard. :)
  8. Stone__Man

    Stone__Man Active Member

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    I'm thinking more is being made out of the mica then need be. from photos of vapman site, the first by AV just above. tells me one thing and I bet a dollar to a doughnut its right. the mica is fit in place and screwed, there is a small lip left both on top mica and bottom mica and once screwed in place both top and bottom are sanded which takes the mica exactly down to the wood surface and a lot of dust will be produced, I'd also be willing to be they have good vacuum system in place.

    and with as much attention to detail this little beauty exhibits, I HIGHLY doubt they did not take health risks into consideration, and I'm also willing to bet it was found to be the best material for the job.

    after considering battery vaps, I have since moved on , maybe when the battery being used can last longer then one bowl I will reconsider bat power. but until then for me in portable its gonna be non battery device and this one is topping my list for purchase consideration, not going the VG route and taking in butane as you go , that was a big appeal to me for the VM. It's just a matter of time till I get one of these. Maybe the "vapman" himself will come on by and offer a FC discount :) that would take it over the edge with me.

    but,,, always a but... I'm still not sure about basic or classic model. it is said there is no difference in performance.. but in the back of my mind I little voice says, if the basic is as good as the original then why was it not the 'original' ? there has to be something to it, way I see it, or they would not have made the vapman the way they originally did.

    hell maybe its all a price point issue, not selling as many VM as they would like at the original, sanded finished wood and heat wrap. and to make it cheaper for consumer no heat wrap or wood finish. after all 86usd is more appealing than 140usd for a lot of folks. so I'm still up in the air which to get.

    @vaporninja I would LOVE to see some pics of your trail tested VM, curious what a finished 3 year old unit looks like. I'd very much appreciate that.

    an odd question, but as I have not had a vape before , I hear its a different smell then burning herbs. my question if of the vapmans smell , the unit itself. how does it smell the one with heat shield and one wtihout? I have lots of experience with wood working and fires. wood stinks when it burns, chars , I wonder if one would not notice the wood smell when using the basic, I almost can't see as though you would not notice it, in smell and taste. thought?
  9. Abysmal Vapor

    Abysmal Vapor Shaman of The Pyramid of Orlin'Malah

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    If you looking portables which do not involve inhaling flame i suggest you look into.. Glass Vape, Gnome vapes, Vapocane, Lotus,Iolite(i do not recomments its performance although ) ... An intresting idea is also being hold in that https://www.vaporstore.com/proddetail.php?prod=Pocket-Vaporizer&cat=56 (portable) but it is has seen very few reviews on FC.. + there seems to be different batches .. cheap ones with crap plastic and a bit more expensive with polycarbonate shell
  10. VaporNinja

    VaporNinja Majihuana Enthusiast

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    that Gnome glass vape looks dangerous man, imagine it'll leave alot of memorable marks on my sofa or perhaps some serious burns on my finger..that's if i own one.. glad i don't :p
  11. Abysmal Vapor

    Abysmal Vapor Shaman of The Pyramid of Orlin'Malah

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    Well your heated vapman can burn you too.. or you will burn off your hair because you wont be able too see the flame cuz its and too close to your face... + obscured by the design.. LOL.. .
    From what you say i think you are the kind of guy that shouldn't be playing with torches at all.. and should not touch the heater cover of the SSV.. or the stove while making a tea... either..
  12. charliedontsurf

    charliedontsurf Glassblower

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    Try the Gnome and I think you'll change your mind. Any vape which involves a torch is going to have hot parts. The Gnome GonG also goes from operating temperature to room temperature in about a minute, so it's not a burn hazard very long, unlike say an unattended Vriptech, Magickwand, etc..

    Be nice, girls.

    mod note: Since I don't think they're girls, calling them that goes directly against your advice to be nice. Not everyone would be amused. This is also the Vapman thread, so please stay on topic
  13. Abysmal Vapor

    Abysmal Vapor Shaman of The Pyramid of Orlin'Malah

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    No love for the ugly girls , huh ? :brow:
  14. VaporNinja

    VaporNinja Majihuana Enthusiast

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    vapman is the best vape for camping or hiking
  15. Stone__Man

    Stone__Man Active Member

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    I've looked at that vape AV, and like u said not much love goes around here for it. not sure if its just not many have tried it or its total shit and thats why? i don't know.

    I see the gnome mentioned but I look at site all I see is the skinny glass rod, that is the gnome? WTH is the gnome gong, i search Google and get Zero.

    @VN, can you post up some picks of your vapman? I'd really like to see what one looks like after 3 years. *nudges .. please ol' buddy ol' pal hehe thanks man ;)
  16. Abysmal Vapor

    Abysmal Vapor Shaman of The Pyramid of Orlin'Malah

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    Here you can check what gnomes are :).
    "That vape" was review by one of the mods i think.. and he said that he likes the performance he was just concerned of the safety of materials used.. and he said he would purchased it the unit for double the price if it was made off safe quality material like stainless steel or aluminium..
    The model has been remade since that review.. some kind of high temp policarbonate plastic is used + the bowl is stainless steel and a bit different as far as i can tell from pics i've seen.. .
  17. Stone__Man

    Stone__Man Active Member

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    hehe thanks AV but you just linked to your profile.

    as far as glass and portable , I like the looks of the vaprbong
  18. Abysmal Vapor

    Abysmal Vapor Shaman of The Pyramid of Orlin'Malah

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  19. max

    max This space available Staff Member

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    Again, this is the Vapman thread. Please stay on topic.
  20. biojuggernaut

    biojuggernaut Snob

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    Cmon max! you're as naggy as my mom; don't get my wrong I LOVE the old women - but seriously relax. Atleast it is given this great vaporizer and thread a little more action you know. But my REAL question: Do you guys think the lotus releases more nasties or the vapman? We know they they are comprised of different materials and have the lotus has that weird IR heating gig - but WE all know how easily overheating can be with these non-glass torch bastards. Many members on here including myself have over torch'd our supremes.
  21. max

    max This space available Staff Member

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    But seriously, quit telling me, or any staff member, how the forum should be moderated. I'm supposed to relax the rules because people want to go off topic? Staying on topic is a rule, and there's also one disallowing public discussions of staff decisions. Could be that you need to review the rules page.
  22. Stone__Man

    Stone__Man Active Member

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    back on topic. vapman

    @vaporninja, can you plese share photos of your vapman, I'm interested to see how one looks after 3 years of use.

    and a question about the flame for any and all that have the vapman. as this is all new including the torch. I see different photos both on the vapman sight of torch held to where the... um core of the flame is up to the bottom of bowl and another where it looks like its the outer flame is up to teh bowl. how do u do it? I'd HATE to thnk I F'd up a vapman from overheating it. I am assuming most all smaller torch to be about about 400 degs to 2300 max output. feedback on this will be GREATLY appreciated.
  23. WatTyler

    WatTyler Revolting Peasant

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    however man. It's easy peasy. The hottest part of the flame (the core as you put it) will heat it up to temp quicker than the cooler part of the flame. You could overheat it with either position.
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    biojuggernaut Snob

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    I apologize. You guys do do a great job here keeping this forum very professionalized. I just wish sometimes we could get really nitty gritty in our comparisons. I never disallowed your staff anything so you might want to review my post - I told you to relax. NOT to relax the rules, regulations, this forum 'THOSE threads' or whatever other hooblah you do on here; it just seems to me like you got a lot on your mind all the time. Plus not to mention I'll probably be begging for your help in the whipr forum.
  25. Stone__Man

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    thanks for reply WT :)

    one of the main reasons I ask is its not clear on the vapman site. I'd like to know if its the core small flame or the outer lighter part of the flame they say should touch the center of pan/bowl? and the reason I'd like to be clear is twofold, I also wonder as if its the core of flame that needs touch bowl, that is why they wouuld burn more as seen in photos above.

    and if its a case of using the inner flame is the reccomended way to go. I have to wonder ifyou would simoply heat it longer if using the outer flame.

    I hope this makes sense as I'm still unclear about flameand how to best use it. they give on site a "time to hild" flame according to flame height, but not at what point of the flame are we talking about? sorry I'm just not clear on ithis.

    I understand you can overheat it regardless of what part of flame you are using and distance.

    something else just popped into my head , they are making a home 'heater station" can't wait to see that .

    thanks peace

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