Discussion in 'Portable Vaporizers' started by spyder, Jul 3, 2008.
You will love doing concentrates with the station! Trust me, welcome to the club!
Just received my beautiful lil' Yew Vapman kit. Thanks @vapman .
I'm going to dedicate it to using only on the station to keep it like new, I've a classic walnut from @Mojo (with a lotus and om tattoo) I use daily now that has stayed looking like new with only the bowl turning a little darker over the last couple of years use. The Yew is going to be saved for special company and for myself on special occasions. (also have a couple I use with the torch when in the garden or away from the station)
The Vapman and Station has become my #1 desktop set-up, I'm loving this thing.
@RUDE BOY Lol I love my basic Yew and I use a torch on it and it still looks beautiful. Just because I went through my learning curve with my pear complete.
Does anyone else prefer the basic over the mica? I think I'd maybe want 1 more vapman but I think this time around I'd like a nice charred vapman then oiled!
@vapman I would be in the market for a third vapman if you sold charred and finished vapmans? Vapmen? . I think there was this awesome vaporizer reviewer that made a teaser vid but never ended up making a review that had a black Vapman.
Also can you guys post your different stems or setups you use with your vapman? I used to use the mflb glass tip for at home but now I put it directly in a glass J hook for home use. I also no longer use it with water ( the yew ) because I prefer the taste of the wood rather than have it go through water.
J hook with any vape is my preferred use, though I'm thinking of making a whip attachment for my vapman. Or just using the black whip from the Maud dib?
You are welcome!
I won't put charred units in the online shop but I could char a vapman for you if you like. I have to admit, that I never charred a vapman myself but i think it should be possible. How about, you char your vapman yourself exactly the way you like it?
@vapman If I take apart my complete pear tree, would I do able to char it? Or would it just mess it up because of the finish.
What would you suggest be the best method? I'd obviously keep the mica off
It doesn't make much sense to char a classic vapman as the heat protection is a protection against the charring. It is also not possible to take your complete pear tree apart, you won't get the copper pan with the three tubes attached through the center bore.
A basic unit is much more suited for charring, it has a wider center bore which enables you to take the whole vapman apart without needing special flanging tools.
@vapman Thank you for the quick reply! I think I would have to get another Vapman as I don't have the heart to char my basic Yew, I love it too much and I really enjoyed the exchange of emails before receiving it. You made it too special of an experience lol
Recieved my vapman and station yesterday, what a wonderful object, was amazed about the strong full rich taste i get with it. But i found that if i follow the Station indication it is way too low for me.
The way i use it is this: I start right away with the Station on 6 +20 Secondes after the green light, then all the following hits i add +15 sec.
So i love the Station and the way it extract the herb perfectly, but i need to count or time how long i leave it after the green light for my style, which makes it less relaxing if i want consistent results, wish the max setting was combustion. Other than that i'm blown away by it!!
@Sikost: If you want higher temperatures, do more cycles and don't leave vapman for too long after the green light. Remember, the heater is turned off when the green light comes on, meaning, that the temperature drops after the stored energy is used up.
It takes some time to really understand, how the station works.
And don't overpack, the station works best and quick with a loose load! Doing a couple of moderate cycles is much more efficient than one or two hot ones.
Efficiency is the secret of the station, not fat and big vapor.
Gentle extraction is creepy, you don't feel much but suddendly it will hit you like nothing else. Some owners of the station would probably confirm this.
Myself, I don't youse the station at all times but when I use it, it feels each a bit stronger than with the lighter. it must be the gentle extraction delivering all the goodies.
We are talking about the fine details and the complex chemistry which is happening during a holy session.
Yes, Yees and Yeees.
Ok i will adjust, thanks for the tips Vapman!!
tried the vapman with several waterpiece-configuration and to me I prefer the vapman to be on its own. Also I prefer the ritual to which I am already accomplished to..
You had some "special editions" in the past with really good looking wood: do you have a special wood or something else coming up this year?
@Phenix: There are no new woods planned at the moment, we still have ash tree in stock. What I know is, that I won't make ebony units anymore, unless someone is supplying the wood and picking up the finished vapmans from the workshop. Since March 2017, the regulation for rare woods became stricter, special certificates (Cites) are needed for trading and shipping. This is why, I took the ebony mouthpieces off our shop, shipping these goods became real risky. Vapmans made of ebony are real rare species, there are only a very few out there. If someone wants an ebony mouthpiece, just ask us by email and we can send it as a mouthpiece without mentioning the name ebony or jacaranda. As soon the name ebony or jacaranda is mentioned on an invoice, the customs could confiscate the mouthpiece and even fine the receiver!
There a plenty of legal and beautiful woods around, these new rules don't bother me much.
@vapman and myself had to learn about the new CITES regulations the hard way. I was probably one of the last to receive an ebony Vapman. It did cost me additional 250 EUR that I had to pay as penalty fee to the German customs authorities and right now, I am part of a lawsuit which will possibly lead to me being convicted for violation of the Convention on International Trade in Endangered Species of Wild Fauna and Flora. (CITES) It's a bit ridiculous, but that's how it is.
The absolute best that @vapman could do at this stage is what he does: Stopping supply and see how things develop. Many other manufacturers will run into the same problem one day. Many woods that are intensively used for music instruments are now covered by CITES. I have read of whole orchestras that had their instruments confiscated when crossing international borders. It always depends on whether the customs officer in question already had the latest in-service training or not. Quite a difficult situation.
indeed kinda ridiculous that you are beeing sued for this @Dynavaper.
Of cause there are nice woods around: trying to imagine a Cocobolo vapman right now..
What about SS or ti? Have you made or given thought to making vapmans from metal?
I received a killer chess set this last Christmas that's Ebony and olive wood, most people I hang with have Ebony sets. I know it's rare and expensive but didn't realize that it's considered endangered.
I stand corrected, it was the Rosewood mouthpiece that caused the main trouble. It was connected to the ebony vapman and they considered both a unit. (At first, I received the ebony Vapman later on, they just kept the mouthpiece)
Cocobolo is also on the list in the meantime. As said - complicated times ahead for some... You can still trade them, but you need a certificate for the piece of wood in question.
Ebony is not a wood species afaik. It is just a name for very dark woods. Some are covered by CITES, some are not.
Metals (good conductors of heat) are not a good way to go for the body, it's hard enough to hang onto now. But ceramic has some advantages? A four piece mold (plaster of Paris?) could make them, much like coffee cups are made in small batches. No need for Mica. Perhaps even modify the design to put the tubes through the body?
A fun 'cottage industry' could include selling the body 'green' (soft fired, ready for decoration). Like school kids making ceramics for mom we could do our own or some really serious work could come out. You could even put up a rack of them like commemorative plates. More fun to look at and much more useful than plates with Elvis.......
A ceramic center section has some promise too, I think? It could even become the top section, replacing the center and MP with a single piece which could be glazed inside as well, meaning 'all glass vapor path'......
More sterile that the VM we know, but it could be fun?
A unit that had the parts that get hot or are in contact with bud or vapor made of metal could be interesting. Like the internals are metal and the exterior is wood. The benefit being ability to iso clean the dirty bits. I really like that I can thouroughly clean my dynavap unlike a lot of other vaps.
I guess I just want another tough durable vape.
Thats a good point! The vapman you can easy and fast clean all parts they are in direct contact with the herbs.
The pan I clean with magic erasers sponges, like f.i. these guys. My vapmans I use the most looks nearly like the first day, without ISO cleaning.
The metal filter from the middle piece I clean every few weeks with ISO, in a few minutes it is like new.
Some people take the reclaim and use it for edibles, but I'am too lazy for it. ;-)
After 3 weeks of intense holiday use, it can look like this:
The wooden middle piece I personally never clean, but some clean it with acetone and let it over night in the solvent. It is recommended to let it dry good before use it again.
again its offtopic as it is about another vape BUT I will compare them so its (a bit more) on topic.
the Supreme v3 is to me a really nice vape: it shines used with a water tool. Heating is similar to the vapman yet easier: grab your largest jet or propan torch and heat til the thermometer is at 180 Celsius. I increase heat further til 220 Celsius for the last hits.
Cleanability is definitely there - all metal and its completely disassemblyable. Bowls made out of metal or glass are available.
and it hits really hard.
Harder than the vapman, vapcap, vaponic, MFLB and likely several more..
one simply does not reallize the amount of vapor one is gonna inhale so if one is not used to it coughing is kinda likely.. harshness is influenced by the WT mainly. its more the "surprise"-effect.
I'm a huge fan of the sv3 I did a .13g sheet on top of a bowl of whole lemon skunk. Took at least 8 12" bong clears to finish!
if we're at another wishing round for vapman 2 (wasn't it official sceduled for 2073? )
i'd vote for a granite body (swiss is full of that), but don't know if that is even possible to fabricate....
@Used2use you know that its 2018? next gen vapman has to be genderneutral
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