Discussion in 'Portable Vaporizers' started by spyder, Jul 3, 2008.
OMG Next time I haaaave to use a magic eraser!
Not to be too hard on yourself......you were younger then, right?
Regards to all.
I have two Vapman torches and I really like them. I don't own other brands. Both torches are sometimes staying lit after releasing the Ignition or button. They stay lit for up to 4 seconds and I can't say I like that. It seems more likely to happen when I use them to heat the Vapcap, which can take a while. So it probably has to do with constant heat exposure... are they defect? Anyone knows a bit more about it, if this is specific for that special type of lighter? Hope it's the right forum. As it is the Vapman torch, it should fit in here. The second torch I had as a spare lying around and had that problem (if it is one) right from the start.
Thanks a lot!
@passenger I have found with the vm torch if my gas is turned too high i get the flame staying after i let go. Never had anywhere near 4 seconds. I would suggest turning the gas down a bit and see if that helps any. When lighting the vapcap i have a tendency to drop the lighter after the click which would be a huge issue if it was still lit!!
Good luck man, maybe someone with real knowledge can chime in..
Not to worry, it happens sometimes depending on what you're doing with them (and similar units). As you 'push them' they get liquid Butane in places that normally have gas. when you close the valve (let off the button) this trapped liquid has to evaporate to gas so it can escape. This takes much longer than gas alone since there's more grams of Butane involved.
Normally, for quick use at lower flame settings this doesn't happen 'as much' since it's gas not liquid that has to 'bleed off'.
From a Troubleshooting POV since you have two (unrealated) units that show this the chances that both units are defective in the same way are so slim you can safely dismiss that (at least for now). IMO you're fine.
There is noting wrong with the design of the Torch VM sells. It does the job well for sure. It's just being asked to work near the limits of it's design (building up heat and so on). A different design, one that is intended to be lint longer and hotter, has this problem 'later on'. That is you can push them harder before this happens. I recommend you get at least one of these to try:
Same unit, two different sellers. $3 shipped, although sometimes that takes a while. I recommend buying one (or more?) from each seller? Notice they are a big bigger but specifically designed as a torch (they have a base and 'flame lock'). They are designed to provide bigger flames for longer times. And they are tough as can be. And hold a lot of fuel.
I like the VM torch, and carry one in my 'travel kit':
But for everyday use I go with the $3 ones. I have several spread around the house (including one on the kitchen table to light candles and one on the patio on the table by the BBQ for similar use). I've used them for years, have worn most of the paint of the one at the desk and have yet to kill one or have one die for other reasons.
just some quick positive feedback
got three of the lighters you recommend above
delivered to UK from tinydeal.com link
ordered couple of weeks ago - from one of your earlier posts
(..thanks for that)
slightly flattened shape fits your hand
you can lock the pushbutton as well as lock the flame
adjust flame with screwdriver at bottom
also the positioning of the button opposite a flat bit on the top means you can (if need be)
light it just holding it between thumb and forefinger
good value for 2.50 (pounds)
my vapman lighter does it too - tho only really at max flame size
Super. Good to know they work as well in the other hemisphere. The UK no less? No offense but I started losing faith in 'the Old Country' when you caved on Pounds, Shillings and Pence. And dumped perfectly good distance measurements and shifted to metric so it wouldn't confuse the neighbors.......
Enough poking fun at the guys with the steering wheels on the wrong side. I'm sure those closer in are happy to hear your report. Thanks.
I had sworn off using pocket torches after having nothing but bad luck with them no matter how much they cost then I received one of these torches with my Daisy and was amazed at how well they work, a few months after that I bought a vapman and vapman torch.
I used the torch that came with the daisy pretty much daily up until a couple weeks ago when I noticed the fuel was slowly disappearing between uses, although it still worked I trashed it. Three years daily use from a 3 dollar torch ain't bad.
The vapman torch got used a couple times a week for around three years and is now my daily powering my vapman and vaponic.
I like both of these torches a lot and hope to always have one or the other on hand.
That leads to another benefit of the vapman bowl shape, torch friendly - the torch flame gets split up and not much heat is reflected back to the torch, it stays cooler...
In comparison vaponic or vc's can be rough on torches - avoid getting to close, max the outer light blue flame touching, or reflection will heat the torch unnecessary
also don't point downwards with the flame
btw my recommondation for the vaponic is a triple in line torch for perfect even heating
IME it usually happens when the flame drops because the lighter is almost empty and you need to turn it up to properly heat the Vapman. After I purge and refill the torch I can have the same flame lenghth without it remaining on.
Interesting....I think the two vapes are running on different temps?
After several years with my original classic Vapman, I was trying to clean the bowl with a soak in acetone. Unfortunately , I forgot about it for several hours... It might be ok with some TLC but it seemed like a good time to order a new Walnut classic kit. I can't wait for the new arrival. If the old unit is safe to use, I'll now use it for concentrates.
Was thinking a lot lately about getting a new battery powered vaporizer. Decided to go with the davinci IQ. All the research I did made me jealous of people who can just go to a legit store with a legit material and try it.
It also made me feel so lucky that I took my first shot with my precious vapman. Vapors are no too familiar where I'm from, and only nowadays you start hearing people talking about it. Still most people never tried it.
I never vaped before the vapman. Had no idea what to expect from it and what it suppose to taste/feel like. It took 3 weeks and a lot of reading here in this awesome community, to just fall in love with it.
3 years after, all my friends bought one too. And many others really liked it.
I have a baby coming soon, and I need a quiet option to vape at home (hopefully he will let me have some breaks).
But it's always good to know that I'll have my vapman by my side.
Now I only need to wait for a friend to get to the IQ from the states so I'll be able to get it for a reasonable price...
Sharing a cool clip of my favorite home band. You'll probably won't understand a word. OK maybe just one...
Click to play YouTube Video
Hey, the HS is silent. If you can resist muttering (or shouting for that matter) "Oh, WOW!" after the best hits it's a completely silent process........
Teasing a bit, of course. But congratulations on the new baby and the 3 YO VapMan. And the friends you share the VM with.
Great post, thanks for sharing.
No doubt! It was definitely on my mind, but decided to go with a portable one.
after soaking the bottom half in acetone, what is the best way to clean the vapman before using it again ??
Acetone soaking is ok for the midpiece, but why the bottom? - a magic eraser cleans the bowl perfect (or cyanide to strip the gold )
Nonetheless the acetone should evaporate at room temp over time, to speed it up let vapman sweat in a oven at 60-70C for a while (but stay with him at the oven, the little fella gets scared alone outside of his shell )
I was trying to clean off some stubborn build up around the base of the center post. I can't seem to get a magic eraser into the tight crevices. I don't know how others are getting their bowl to look spotless. It's been 4 days since I took it out of the acetone. I've cleaned it with ISO to remove the sticky residue from the acetone and also used a lighter to burn off anything remaining. should this be safe to use again ?
If there is no more smell it should be good, to be 101% shure maybe 10 min in the oven at low heat (a few drops of linseed oil afterwards won't hurt and warm wood soaks oil better )
I use for those tight spots on the bowl kind of a dentist tweezer to hold a piece of magic eraser - maybe poking a little piece on a toothpick works too...also heating the bowl a bit can help (hmm maybe freezing is even better?)
I cut small pieces out of the eraser sponge and press these little cuboids the long way into the pan and turn it to and fro. (valid expression?)
Maybe a pic say more than 1000 words.
(scale in Centimeters)
One of our newer Members (who's name of course I can't recall) suggested a brilliant idea here, cut the sponge into triangles.....
Fits 'perfectly' between the post and pan that way. Just 'swing it around the post'. Be sure to check the air tubes for debris afterward (peek up from below at a light).
@vapman related to vapman station, how many time is recommended to wait between switching off and on again?
Sometime when i use the vapman station, switch off and then on, if the time was less than 1 minute, it warm hotter than usual... (from red to yellow light)
@Mono: There is no need for waiting between turning off and switching on the station, the station always
works on the same temperature (330°C / ). When the station is already hot when turning it on again, the time between the red and yellow light might be shorter because there is some heat still stored in the docking part.
In general, don't think too much when using the station! Even it is digitally controlled, it has a lot of analog aspects to it and there are always small nuances depending on the contact between vapman and the station, possible air drafts, surrounding temperature...etc.
Hope I understood your question correctly, if not, keep asking me!
I'm a proud owner of the VapMan. It's good at what it does and I would absolutely recommend it. Having said that I would like to express my opinion that the VapMan is on the whole not on par with its price. First of all I believe the casing is fundamentally flawed by being made of plastic. It's an ugly egg-shaped cheap-looking plastic casing - why not wood? And if it has to be plastic then why isn't it at least properly fitting the VapMan? I have to pad the inside with paper to keep the VapMan from producing a clattering when walking. That is as annoying as it is unnecessary.
What I also do not understand is why on earth does the heat insulation of the VapMan Classic have to show technical imprints which seem to specify the material. You can see it on the picture (https://upinsmoke.org.uk/images/D/vapman both types.jpg) . The coating in mine is full of serial numbers and material specifications or whatever that is - certainly does not add to the visual appeal.
I think that those points are no-brainers and should be fixed given a price point of 120 Euro.
I absolutely disagree, I find it to be extremely well designed and high quality for being plastic.
I agree on this, I always pad an egg to use it on the move. It's easy to do it but I think @vapman could work out a solution.
I agree on this too but I really really dislike the mica itself and technical imprints or not I would never buy a shielded Vapman. To me part of its beauty is seeing the wood charring during the first uses and how it keeps aging.
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