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Discontinued Vapir Air One 5.0

Discussion in 'Portable Vaporizers' started by drseuss, Jun 12, 2009.

  1. ranbar

    ranbar Well-Known Member

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    I have been vaporizing for about 6 years now. my first vaporizer was a vapir classic i think the name was. had a few of those which worked out okay, but broke pretty easily. i got a vapir 5.0 over 3 years ago and it has worked great since.
    i have had a few problems. the first one being that the cord broke some how. the cord didn't break in half, but the connnection wasn't working right. so i had to hold the cord with one hand making sure it made the right connection to the unit so it would work. i sent for a replacement cord and now it works great again. it does leak a little from the lid and from where the tray inserts.
    besides that, it produces a strong vapor, sometimes too strong. it is always very reliable. i haven't cleaned it in months and it works fine. i usually use to whip tube because for me it is more convienient. i use it in my car a lot, which gets a little trickey, but it is doable. i just use a car adapter for it.
    i do recommend this unit. it is inexpensive. it is reliable. it produces a good thick vapor. it heats up quickly, within a minute. the fan noise doesn't bother me. and it has lasted a long time with very little issues.
    i also have an iolite, which is much more stealthy and easier on the lungs. but it takes sometimes up to 100 clicks to get the fucking thing going. and then i have to wait for a long time (30:00 is the recommended time) to get it up to optimal vaping temperature.
    so i just ordered a magic flight launch box. and that should work better. but we'll see. i think that nothing works as well as what you expect it to. i'd also like to check out a silver surfer. but opted for the more stealthy and portable launch box. both of which have been highly recommended by this website.
    oh yeah, one more thing about the vapir 5.0. when i was in amsterdam i got to try out a vocano. and i ahve to say that it really wasn't much better than the vapir 5.0. i was glad that i didn't spend the extra 350$ on it versus the vapir 5.0. the vapir was about the same. the balloon fill time was about the same. the volcano was a little easier to use with the balloons, and the vapor was smoother. besides that there wasn't a whole lot of difference. the temperature control is the same with both units. the volcano did seem like it was more sturdy and better built. but for 500$ it should be. but the vapir is a lot more portable.
    and by the way, you can get a plastic stand from vapir for 10 or 20$ which holds the unit upright. i got mine free with my order.
     
  2. JDSupreme

    JDSupreme Head of Pot

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    Excellent pics and review/DIY fix/everything haha. I got mine lightly used and it leaked a good bit for a while in the beginning. I just wrapped the top in electrical tape and let the resin of heavy use take care of the tray area. It leaks virtually nothing and i'm riding this bad boy out til it dies before I get a new bag- inflating vape. I promised my girl (she claims I spend to much on toys, ha) I'd wait til it dies before I can get a cano or extreme or whatever. I'm sure mine will work for decades because of this haha. I got no beef with the vapir 5.0 tho :) it gets the job done well. The only negative for me is the fan noise. It's like a pissed off hair dryer
     
  3. vapirtoo

    vapirtoo Well-Known Member

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    Wow, it's good to see others enjoying their vapir 5.0.
    I also have used the volcano, and I feel that the vapir is just as good in producing thick vapor. As far as actual extraction of potent vapors, It was my volcano friend that turned me on to regrinding ABV in order to extract more vapor ( even the volcano doesn't vaporize everything ).
    last visit he was trying to analyze the high of a specific herb per specific temperature. I believe he is taking notes.
    All said I guess I'm satisfied. This was my first vape, and it allowed me to stop smoking. :/ .
     
  4. lilzeus

    lilzeus Well-Known Member

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    The 'only' negative? Well, other than the poor build quality and rigging/fixing you have to do...electrical tape or otherwise.

    I like the perspective you can extract from his comment: How often would any of you normally shell out $150 for a leaky, whining, pissed off hair dryer?

    There is no doubt that you can get high by using this vaporizer. I know, I've done it. But for that kind of money I expected better. Especially now that I know there are other vaporizers on the market that will get you just as high, are more efficient, have superior build quality, better designed, higher quality materials and equipment...they can silently do all that over the Vapir 5.0 and for about the same price or sometimes less.

    I guess in the last few years I have been willing to admit when I have made a poor choice when buying something. Normally I research the piss out of things before I drop a nickel, and I thought I had seen/heard enough good about the Vapir to purchase it. I was wrong. In retrospect, how would I even know?

    Personally I think its fairly cut and dry: There are better vaporizers to spend your money on.
     
  5. JDSupreme

    JDSupreme Head of Pot

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    I had a friend who owed me $60 and gave me my vapir so im not complaining. I would not buy this for $150. It did get me to quit combusting tho
     
  6. vapirtoo

    vapirtoo Well-Known Member

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    lilzeus , hair drier? My old ass is bald, :lol: but I see your point.
    I guess I would not actually recommend the vapir. But I still
    enjoy using it.
    Some of my combusting comrades ( never vaped before )said the bag
    hits from the vapir rated among their 10 best ever highs.
    I would like to try a dbv or mz soon. :brow: .
     
  7. ranbar

    ranbar Well-Known Member

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    i do not doubt that there are more effective vaporizers out there. but i don't think it is a piece of crap. i think that any vaporizer that you can use for 3 + years with very little problems and it is still going strong is a good thing. if i had unlimited funds, and the wife didn't care, i'd try a silver surfer, from the reviews i have read on this website. but i more needed something stealthy and protable so i opted for the magic flight launch box. it should be here on monday. and i can't wait to try it out and see how it compares to the vapir. i also did have an oxygen mini by vapir, and that thing sucked balls. it never produced any vapor and i never felt any effects.
    but i am in the same boat as jd supreme. i am going to run my vapir 5.0 into the ground before getting a new home unit. for me there is just no reason to replace it. it works well, is reliable, does the job every time. if anything, the vapor is too thick. i think that it is thicker then the vapor from a volcano. and about a third of the price.
     
  8. lwien

    lwien Well-Known Member

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    Thicker is not always better. In most instances, thicker means that the bud is being vaped at a higher temp especially when comparing two vapes using the same delivery system.
     
  9. JDSupreme

    JDSupreme Head of Pot

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    Completely different but you will LOVE it. I still use both

    Ugh once I burned through the terrible plastic taste it worked ok for a lil. It seemed to work shittier and shittier as I used it. Now it sits in a box. I don't even want to sell it because I don't want to burden anyone else with it. The power cords pull out of the phone jack style plug in no time with regular use. I did manage to get vapir to send me 1 replacement home adapter but it got loose in like 2 weeks. POS

    Hell yeah! I just did a rubbing alcohol soak/scrub on my herb disks. I noticed a drop in vapor density when the top screen gets honey'd up (obviously). I usually run the temp around 378F. But we all know the herb seems to get healthy blasts of air anywhere from 365 - 385 according to the crazy temp gauge haha.

    I definately will always want to have the option to vape a bag, which I never vape dry anymore, so much better through cold ass water. I can't believe it took me so long to realize the tubing fits perfect in a standard female bong stem
     
  10. rsjrv99

    rsjrv99 Well-Known Member

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    This vaporizer is a fantastic vaporizer, you know, while it lasted, and as long as you:

    1. seal all the cracks with tape since half the vapor leaks out if you dont. Vapor literally leaks from EVERY crack, even the buttons. I could see the vapor leaking out of the machine, but nothing a little tape couldnt take care of
    2. buy a new bag since the stock bags are too small, and a normal size disc can fill 2-3 easily. turkey bags worked great, and were easy to make and cheap!
    3. be careful taking the tube out, since its molten hot for about 15 seconds

    I was able to fill very nice bags with this vape...for about 5 months, then the unit just stopped heating up. I couldn't find anyone else that had the same issue as me, most just had an issue with the fan breaking, so who knows what happened. I used this vape consistently, 2-3 times a day, probably not what it was made for and this could be a big reason why it broke so quickly, but it was a great vape while it lasted (and as long as you followed my steps ;))

    I've also burned my herbs a couple of times, making a big bag full of thick thick smoke, even when my temp was only at 365F. Not a problem though, it usually vapes perfectly at the set temperature.

    I don't suggest it to anyone, however, unless you want a cheap vape that fills bags, then it is well worth the money.
     
  11. lwien

    lwien Well-Known Member

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    And yet, this is a fantastic vaporizer? :lmao:

    I hope you were just being a bit sarcastic here, eh? You were, right?
     
  12. vapirtoo

    vapirtoo Well-Known Member

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    I dunno guys, I run my vapir at 392-395 f. and my herb comes out brown. The unit, my unit, tops out at 400 f.
    i've never combusted ( sounds perverted ) :lol: at these levels, and I wonder how close the individual units are in temp. readout.
    This applies to all calibrated vapes. How accurate is the readout and exactly what is being read?
    I've left my fan on overnight at least 3 times and it appears to run fine. I have discovered that my fan speed switch has a spot between low and mid where the fan really runs slow and with a whip the vapor really gets tasty. I keep an eye on the temp and do not run it for long at this setting.
    I've always let it cool down at least 3min.
    Oh yeah smoke coming out of the buttons?
    You experts are either anal or forensic, whew, I'm glad I'm not in your class
    eventhough you have taken us all to school. :lol:
     
  13. JDSupreme

    JDSupreme Head of Pot

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    My shit is a perfect shade of brown when I run around 380F after 1 bag. I filled the herb disk (as loose as possible) 3/4 full of finely ground herb. I never fill more than 1 bag off a disk, even with great herb the taste is blah. I've read of people filling multiple bags off one and I just dont see it. I've got some oven bags that work good but i still have like 3 vapir bags left that aint all stuck shut.

    The very low fan spot between low and med for whip hitting sounds like an all around bad idea. IMO I wouldn't push a vape like this, like that. That air moving is too important to making this thing last, as well as letting it cool down for 3-5 min afterwards

    Trust the color of your ABV, not the temp :)
     
  14. rsjrv99

    rsjrv99 Well-Known Member

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    once its sealed up the thing works great, but absolutely useless without the mods I did to it. so yes, its a crappy stock vape, but it can be fixed up to work very nice.

    doesnt matter anymore though, just order a purple days, vape quality will never be a problem again =)
     
  15. vapirtoo

    vapirtoo Well-Known Member

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    I agree totally. If I knew then what I know now I would have said
    fuck the bags and gone with a PD, DBV or a MZ . Oh well live and learn.
    ( as the sound of the shitty fan whines in the background ) :ko:
     
  16. JDSupreme

    JDSupreme Head of Pot

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    I would have at least looked into a better inflating option. I don't think many people here would go out and replace their 5.0 with another vapir thats for sure. But staying on the posititve side it aint like the thing doesn't work. We all don't have endless bank accounts so price is always an issue.

    Now spending $300 on some of the other vapir models....well....that deserves smack :)

    On a side note I was in an overpriced college headshop a few days ago and the price tag on the 5.0 there was $260, regular kit no extras. Get the fuck out of here dude.
     
  17. vapirtoo

    vapirtoo Well-Known Member

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    Ouch! Education is expensive. :lol:
     
  18. charliedontsurf

    charliedontsurf Medical

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    In a word, crap.

    http://www.pyro-products.com/

    I had the misfortune of owning two of these. It is a blatant repackaging of another horrible Vapir product, and the Pyro Product people are obviously just a front because they ruined the vapir name with lousy manufacturing and design. My friend bought it at a shop, didn't like it, and sold it to me for like half the cost. From the limited usage I had before it wasn't horrific, but when I had the time to use it at home, it was garbage. It SPEWED vapor out the front gate where the trays, which contain the herbal material, are loaded. Bag or whip, it tasted like disgusting plastic. Obviously a digital controller and multiple fan speeds with the ability to fill bags sounds awesome but it has horrible build quality. The first one died completely and the headshop was good enough to give me another even though I hadn't purchased it - they knew me and my friend well.

    The second one still tasted like plastic, still spewed vapor. I found someone to trade me for a very nice bong and just am happy I didn't have to live with that POS.

    Anyone else try it?

    mod note: The Voodoo is identical to the Vapir One, made by Vapir, and licensed to Pyro Products. The same goes for the Mystifire/Vapormatic. Threads merged.
     
  19. OC513

    OC513 Dabaholic

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    must say I love your avatar.....one of my all time favorite beers, especially with a great meal.
     
  20. Vicki

    Vicki Herbal Alchemist

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    I bought a VooDoo vaporizer several years ago. It leaked vapor, so I had to fix it with tape. It also seemed to use a ton of herb, more than I was willing to use. So, I ended up giving it to a friend.
     
  21. vapirtoo

    vapirtoo Well-Known Member

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    My vapir 5.0 is 8 months old, has never been cleaned and is used at least
    5 times a week.
    The hits are tasty and the vapor is thick.
    It gets me higher than my LB :ko: :brow: but thats so
    subjective.
    I must have the only one that works and lasts.... so far.
    I would not recommend it after reading all the posts,
    but from my actual usage this thing rocks! Guess I'm
    lucky or stooopid! :D :lol:
     
  22. JDSupreme

    JDSupreme Head of Pot

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    Im totally with you!

    It gets you higher than the LB but in a dif way.

    I use mine maybe 4-5 times a week, usually before I go out to eat or whenever I really want my bell rung quick:)

    Although now that I use it less often the fan does not seem to sound like its running to its full potential. Like it takes a little longer than it used to to fill a bag on medium. But hey the damn thing still works!
     
  23. tdriver

    tdriver Well-Known Member

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    My vapir 5.0 is a year old and works as it should. no leaks or anything.
    only the fan is a bit noisy....but i choose to ignore it.
    i also got me a launch box so i don't use the vapir very often.
     
  24. VaporNation

    VaporNation Vaporizer Superstore Retailer

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    I was able to produce some amazing clouds with this vaporizer. It is extremely efficient, affordable, and quite functional. My only gripe is that the unit gets so hot that it sometimes melts the plastic tubing.
     
  25. vapirtoo

    vapirtoo Well-Known Member

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    I'm so glad that a few others have had a good experience with the vapir one 5.0.
    When I'm using the whip, right after a good pull I extract the cassette and place it
    on some cold metal, so the herbs cool down quickly.
    I might repeat this a few times, or remove the herbs for a regrind
    and place them in my LB.
    Thanx for the shout out, peace.
    Vapenation, maybe your tube is to far down, I have never burned anything,
    and I vape at 395 f.
     

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