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Vaping twice. The smoking / indica high ?

Discussion in 'ABV' started by Vapewithfire, Jun 12, 2014.

  1. RUDE BOY

    RUDE BOY Space is the Place

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    It's very hard to tell the strain from dried buds, at least to me. These days indica and sativa looks a lot alike if not the same with hydroponic grows.
     
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  2. Vapewithfire

    Vapewithfire Active Member

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    For all the people, who don´t believe in me, i found the text, where stands, what i wrote. It is from sensi seeds, a serious source.

    Sativa = low cbd content
    Indica = high cbd content

    Indica strains of cannabis generally have a medium to high THC content as well as a comparatively high CBD content. Sativa strains normally have medium to high THC and a relatively low CBD content.
     
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  3. Caligula

    Caligula *results not typical.

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    The key word here is "comparatively". The fact of the matter is that you are still going to see very small CBD counts (usually under 1%) regardless of strain type, again unless you get something which had been specially bread for high CBD content such as Cannaquin (over 5%).
     
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  4. EveryDayAmnesiac

    EveryDayAmnesiac I am a stupid asshole.

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    Yeah, I think this might be the curse of the East Coasters... :shrug:

    Or maybe I'm just always too fucking stoned to notice any difference in appearance...
     
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  5. fidget

    fidget Well-Known Member

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    OP for Mod :rockon:
     
  6. herbivore21

    herbivore21 Well-Known Member

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    OP for PRESIDENT OF THE WORLD!!!111oneone

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    Learn it, love it, live it!

    Fuck combustion, but fuck conventional vaping. VAPE WITH FIYAH!
     
  7. Jethro

    Jethro Well-Known Member

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    Why did I click on this thread...

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  8. Vapewithfire

    Vapewithfire Active Member

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    I think, when you look at the leaves, you can see it.
    The typical marihuana sign mostly looks like a sativa, with thin leaves.
    Indica is the opposite. May be it is possible to see the sativa content at the leaves.

    This picture demonstrates the diference. I would not wonder, when the apghan kush ( 90 % indica ) is not really an indica, and has thin leaves ( low cbd ? ).

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  9. thisperson

    thisperson Ruler of all things person

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    I heard it is ce
    I find it just the opposite. Although I hardly pick up buds since starting to vape.

    Do you know how to tell them apart?

    The easy way without looking at the leaves is to pick out one with as sparse orange hairs as you can find and loaded with crystals. This one is sativa.

    The one with a large number of orange hairs, regardless of crystals is an indica.

    I find that it is easier to label anything inbetween as a hybrid.

    Hope this helps.
     
  10. CG420

    CG420 Vaporist

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    Sativas are mostly euphoric highs, lifts the user's mood and induces ample stress relief which could also be used as a natural anti-depressant.

    Indicas tend to be a natural muscle relaxant, acts as an analgesic, and also reduces insomnia.

    :suspicious::uhh::disgust:
     
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  11. Vapewithfire

    Vapewithfire Active Member

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    Sounds like the benefits of cbd & co.
     
  12. KeroZen

    KeroZen Chronic vapaholic

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    I've rarely read so much condensed bullshit in a single thread, this is fucked up beyond all repair aka FUBAR'ed! :D
     
  13. meduser#420

    meduser#420 Touch it, Feel it.

    definitely interesting trying to figure out @Vapewithfire perspectives...

    Like some of you who are in the know, this has to be an honest mistake from misinformation. :peace:
     
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  14. Ox45

    Ox45 Well-Known Member

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    OP you're getting your balls busted here (i hate to see that) not cool. They are having a field day with you. Just toke some herb and let this thread die away don't bother getting into a debate, these guys know their stuff when it comes to herb.
     
  15. Caligula

    Caligula *results not typical.

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    LOL, you should check how many MJ forums hes been booted from before landing here. I highly doubt this is new or unexpected for him.
     
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    GSH On a Möbius plane

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  17. HillaryClinton

    HillaryClinton Future ruler of earth

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    This is my new favorite thread, so enlightening.

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    Not before me....
     
  18. vtac

    vtac vapor junkie Staff Member

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    Next time please provide a link to the source you're referencing. If you don't there will likely not be another next time. You've been warned about this multiple times.
     
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  19. Vapewithfire

    Vapewithfire Active Member

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  20. sasNW

    sasNW SmartVape all day

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    Anyone who is having a hard time determining if it will be an indica or sativa high needs to pick up a jewelers loop or some type of magnification. A close up of trichs can give you a lot of info if you know what you are looking for. Generally indica a have shorter fatter trichs wile sativas tend by stretch a bit like the sativa plant does. This is just a general statement and not always the case of course. Also clear, cloudy or amber trichs will let you know the type of high. As Thc degrades into cbd it ambers, so a bud with amber trichs was harvested later therefore the Thc has started to degrade to cbn.

    And sativa vs indica is 100% based on the plant type. A sativa dominant plant harvested with Amber trichs will still give you an indica type high... But it's still a sativa period

    Edit for references- me;) And 5 years of growing experience. I'm by no means an expert but I'm learning more everyday
     
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  21. luchiano

    luchiano Well-Known Member

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    @Vapewithfire I understand what you're trying to say but you have to remember connecting sativa with energetic, and indica with relaxing, is an old method. Those terms are really for how the plant grows, not necessarily its effects. The essential oils that give the plant its odor and taste are whats really giving these effects when they are combined with the cannabinoids. Look on nugporns YouTube page to find out more.

    As far as vaping twice to get a more relaxing effect, you can do that but its more effective if you start of boiling off the lower compounds at say 365f, then once you see no vapor at this temperature, raise the temperature to around 430-445f. This high temperature will help increase the oxidation of the THC into CBN and give that feeling you want. The reason you want to get out the lower compounds first is because if you don't and just start out at a high temperature, the condensed compounds that form a cloud will keep the incoming air from being too hot so not enough heat will be used to accelerate oxidation. It will also be less oxygen in the thick cloud. If you are using regular or mediocre bud, you may be able to go up in temp for the first puff because that type of bud doesn't have a lot of oils in it but with real good bud you want to do as I described.

    Don't pack the bowl too much because it will cool down the incoming air quickly and help form clouds, so you want to have your herb spread out loosely and evenly.

    Remember all of this is allegedly happening.
     
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  22. Vapewithfire

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    This could also work, but i thought, when you vape at normal temperature ( 200° celsius ), you nearly don´t need to switch the temperature higher. Enough cb. will be converted into cb., while you wait for the second puff.

    I think you can adjust the indica / cb. content, that way.
    When the first puff is long and the second short, only a bit indica would come, i guezz.
    When the first puff is short, more thc should be converted into cb..
     
  23. grokit

    grokit power cosmic

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  24. herbivore21

    herbivore21 Well-Known Member

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    Haha oh man, I remember when i was 14 I used to be on another huge message board, and there was this dude who used to post absolutely incomprehensible posts, continuing to reply to those who took his posts seriously. He turned out to be a Bulgarian troll but if he didn't ever type some of the funniest shit i ever read, til I read vape with fires posts! I do have a apenchant fot the absurd, but this thread needs to be stickied! Haha
     
  25. Gray Area

    Gray Area Well-Known Member

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    These threads are virtually cut and paste jobs from threads on another related forum I frequent... Gets the piss ripped out of him there too :doh:

    Guys either a troll or a rhino...
     

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