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Vaping twice. The smoking / indica high ?

Discussion in 'ABV' started by Vapewithfire, Jun 12, 2014.

  1. Vapewithfire

    Vapewithfire Active Member

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    Some people don´t like vaping. I think they miss the more cbd & Co. High
    ( indica ). Even when you vape at higher temperature, you will not get as much cbd and cbn than smoked, i heard. Smoking gives you not just all cbd an co., it converts some thc into cbd like substances, i red.

    It seems to be true, because when i use my vape with higher temp, i get more stoned, but not exactly as stoned than smoked.

    Now i red, that a lot of people like their vapman much more than other vapes.
    I know, that a lot of people vape their weed twice in the vapman instead of one long puff with vapgenie or others. May be the first puff and waiting turns some thc into cbd or cbn.
    1. puff sativa and 2. puff indica ?

    This would be great, because some want the stonedness of smoking and not the sativa high of vaping at low temp, especially the ones, who need medication for their nerves and mind.

    I tried it with my vape and fire and it seems to work. Even the sativa weed seems to become a bit indica, when i vape it twice.
    Good idea for people who still smoke, because they don´t like vaping. Met a lot.

    Also good could be 2 little puffs, because when you take too much at one time,
    a lot could be lost / blown out and a lot could go to the stomach or bowel, and also be lost.
     
  2. Enchantre

    Enchantre A short, pithy statement

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    Yeah, when I baked my apples longer, they turned into pork chops, too.

    Sativa does not turn into Indica. It's two different plant types.

    Higher temps, and degradation over time, will slowly convert some THC to CBD, but the strain doesn't change.

    You might try reading a book.

     
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  3. Vapewithfire

    Vapewithfire Active Member

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    I red a lot of books, and i know a lot about it.

    When thc is converted into cbd means it gets more indica.

    Indica is nothing else than thc with enough cbd, cbn and co.
    Sativa is just thc without cbd and co.

    Means when the cbd and co. content increases, it gets more indica.

    It is still a sativa plant, but indica weed.
     
  4. Herr_Dampf

    Herr_Dampf Well-Known Member

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    Believe me, it's not worth it. I tried.
     
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  5. RUDE BOY

    RUDE BOY Space is the Place

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    Yeah I don't believe Vapewithfire has a clue about how Funny his statements are like;

    "It's still a Sativa plant, But Indica weed" or " a lot could be lost / blown out and a lot could go to the stomach or Bowel" or even "smokers Leg"

    read these posts as comic relief and you can't go wrong !
     
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  6. Stu

    Stu Maconheiro Staff Member

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    Please provide references from some of these books that you have read. You may not realize that you are making false statements, but I can assure you that you are. You should go back and re-read these books that you refer to in order to better understand the subject matter.

    :peace:
     
  7. Vapewithfire

    Vapewithfire Active Member

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    Do you know what is the difference betwen sativa and indica ?
    It´s only with or without cbd & co.
    When the weed gets dry and old, thc converts into cb. = more indica

    Here a bit of high times posts:
    That being said, it is actually the indicas that have the strongest analgesic effect when it comes to medical cannabis, it’s usually the sativas that have a higher amount of THC compared to CBDs.

    ( means they have much thc and less cbd & co ).
     
  8. Herr_Dampf

    Herr_Dampf Well-Known Member

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    I really wonder, do you? It doesn't seem like it at all.
    In short:

    [​IMG]
     
  9. Vapewithfire

    Vapewithfire Active Member

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    I already know the differences between the indica and sativa plants.

    I guezz you don´t know what the difference between indica and sativa weed is.
    Indica is more calming, because it has more cbd & co.
    Sativa makes more high, because no calming cb.

    I was not interested in the differences between the plants, their size, smell or anything.

    I wanted to know why indica makes you calm and relaxed and sativa high and awake.
    I already thought the sativas have less cb., than i found an article in the net, where stands, it is all about the cbd & co cocktail, that makes it indica, nothing else.
     
  10. Herr_Dampf

    Herr_Dampf Well-Known Member

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    [​IMG]

    I am done. I'll just put you on ignore, it's the best for both of us.
    Just one last thing: Either VASTLY improve your english skills or try to get information in your native tongue, it will help.
     
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  11. RUDE BOY

    RUDE BOY Space is the Place

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    Indica plant = Indica weed
    Sativa plant= Sativa weed

    Only way it works. You make no sense at all.
     
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  12. Maine420

    Maine420 GROOVY GRANNY

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  13. Caligula

    Caligula *results not typical.

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    ...too subtle?
     
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  14. EveryDayAmnesiac

    EveryDayAmnesiac I am a stupid asshole.

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    Wow! Where do you shop? :o
     
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  15. DDave

    DDave Vape Wizard

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    If I read this post and replace the below references, with the latter ones listed, it makes more sense.

    Sativa = Elevated, energetic effects
    Indica = More sedative effects.


    This goes hand in hand with how some of us double-vape our herbs. Lower temps in daytime for energetic affects, then revape at high temp later for the sedative effects.

    Note, there will be some effects that cannot be replicated from Smoking to Vaping, as combustion byproducts produce their own reaction/effects in your body.

    Or then again... I may have missed the point completely...
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  16. Vapewithfire

    Vapewithfire Active Member

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    Some use sativa / haze for day time and indica / hash for the evening.
    Nearly the same method as vaping weed on high temp at the evening, and low temp at...
    Vaping it twice should be in the near of high temp vaping, but may be stronger or weaker.

    I still think and red somewhere,

    sativa is pure thc and
    indica is pure thc + the sedative effects of the cb. cocktail.

    My new theory is:

    100 % sativa = 0 % cbd
    75 % sativa = a bit cb.
    50 % sativa = medium cb. content
    indica = enough cb.
     
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  17. fidget

    fidget Well-Known Member

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    Nice theory
     
  18. Caligula

    Caligula *results not typical.

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    Aside from the fact that most sativas out there are hybridized and that "pure" sativas are a rarity these days, the few strains which are generally accepted as having purely sativa genetics have been tested in labs, countless times. Result? Albeit typically rather low (under 1%), I cant think of a single strain that has tested at "0" across the board for CBD/CBG/CBC/etc...

    Basically, science has already proven you wrong in this regard.

    You're also completely ignoring other compounds which have been proven to add to/have their own psychoactive effects, such as terpenes.
     
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  19. Vapewithfire

    Vapewithfire Active Member

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    It is only a theory, and with 0% cb. i mean nearly nothing, not exactly 0 %.
    Also i know some sativas, that have 0 % cb., like purple haze, white widdow...

    I guezz most of the white strains, have nearly no cb., and most real haze strains, too.
     
  20. thisperson

    thisperson Ruler of all things person

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    Wait. Wouldnt tgere being such low numbers across all sativas prove him right though?

    What is the percentage average found in indicas?

    Let us humor him for a minute and not label him an idiot outright.
     
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  21. Caligula

    Caligula *results not typical.

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    From everything that I've seen, the only time you get a 0 score across the board like that is when the testing limit is too high (typically 0.1 for some reason). If you have something coming in with 0.08% CBD-A, and testable limits ate set to 0.1, then you get an automatic 0 or "BTL". My theory is that results such as those were done with inferior lab equipment, or the lab has different levels of resolution depending on payment tier.

    @thisperson I believe he explained himself well enough when clarifying that he meant very low and not literally "zero".

    Also CBDs are found in very low amounts in both sativas and indicas unless the strain is specifically bred for it... which is a very new thing since the trend before was to breed the CBD out of the flowers while increasing THC.

    You can often see CBD counts WELL under 1%, even in heavy indicas.

    http://www.wikileaf.com/strain/afghan-kush/

    http://www.sclabs.com/

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  22. Enchantre

    Enchantre A short, pithy statement

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    It's the amazing Sativa Apples. If you bake them long enough, they will turn into Indica pork chops.

    Because, you know, there is no difference other than how many vitamins are in them...
     
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  23. HomeFree

    HomeFree Well-Known Member

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    I guezz if u twice vape sativa u gives 400% indica.
     
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  24. Vapewithfire

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    If this aphgan kush is a real indica and got no cbd and co, than i would think
    my theory is wrong or it is the exception that proofs the rule.

    I found 5 types of aphgan kush all had some cbd.
    Aphgan kush has at least a bit of sativa in it, i red. May be the 10 % sativa genes are that dominant, that it is more sativa than they think. Like a blond woman who has a child with a black man. A lot of children become totally black.
    When you look at the leaves of apghan kush, are this really indica leaves ?

    This means that these portraits are not always right, but most times it is right, i guezz

    Afghan Kush

    Rx Harvest

    THC: 13.68%

    CBD: 0.30%

    CBN: 0.80%
     
  25. Caligula

    Caligula *results not typical.

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    Only if you use a heat gun and two screens.

    .

    Dude, I said low CBD. Not no CBD. My point was that both sativa and indica have very low CBD counts on the vast average, even when dealing with mostly pure genetics in either direction.


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