VapeXhale Cloud

Discussion in 'Plug-in Vaporizers' started by stonemonkey55, Mar 1, 2012.

  1. Stu Maconheiro

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    I can't seem to kill this ELB. I've had at least 15 modest hits and it's still chuggin' along. I may need to tap out soon. Here's a vid off hit #13

    :peace:

    Edit: In retrospect, i think I really just wanted to show off the t-shirt. :lol:
  2. Vapinghole Low-Temp Hempist

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    Awesome, Stu! I love it when that happens--typically when I spike the ELB with enough kief or hash.
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  3. sunsett70 Active Member

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    hey man, no way i was serious, twas a joke, maybe a bad joke but still a joke. i can't believe some people actually took me seriously on this one. the most you can accuse me of is having a bad sense of humour.

    mod note: I can't believe you risked a warning for a joke that you in no way, shape, or form identified as a joke. Responding to mod notes is also against the rules, since it's a public discussion of a staff decision.
  4. lwien Well-Known Member

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    And you're Brazilian flag. :cool:

    And sunsett, I thought it was a joke, especially being that you inserted that Groucho smiley but that word has some bad history around here and I guess I'm partly to blame for that (no Groucho smiley).
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  5. kool kief New Member

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    Thanks for the heads up!

    I've been jonsing for a cloud for ages and at <$400 I can finally afford one, but when I try and checkout from VaporStore it tells me the coupon is invalid :(

    Has anyone else gotten this to work?
  6. Bob Loblaw Astralnaut

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    did you make sure to check that you accept terms?
    it's right above where you enter the coupon
  7. havealight101 Norski

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    Thank you ripBongs & Stu! Just what the Dr. ordered.
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  8. MonsterWithoutBorders Recovering Canadian

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    I bought a broke cloud SERIAL # below 250. Red light comes on but never heats up.

    I first removed the silicone sleeve. I removed it with a hair dryer but it left a bit of residue behind.

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    Using MEK I was able to remove all the residue from the sleeve and a little paint.

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    Take out the eight screws with an allen wrench and you expose the circuit board and the

    wiring. Electronics are isolated from heating unit.

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    Pictures of inside with insulation.

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    THE PROBLEM

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    Stainless steel wire has come loose from the stainless steel(?) pad. One side of the connection

    to the ceramic heater. It looks like this wire was welded with a single point. Perhaps an

    induction weld. Very weak connection for something that goes through such heating and

    cooling stress. This is not connected like most heaters. Most heaters have a mechanical

    connection a fold over or a crimp and do not depend on a single weld point.

    The person I worked with too fix this was a master welder but we did not have the setup to do

    a weld though we might try that next time. We attempted to use silver solder to connect

    the wire to the plate. This was very difficult to do as however the original connection was

    made it made it very difficult to get the solder to tin the plate. However with application

    of a torch directly we finally were able to get it to solder. Unfortunately the heat that

    we applied broke the ceramic heater. We expected the glass to break. However it still broke

    and the cloud is easily pronounced dead.

    Attempt to reattach the wire:

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  9. kool kief New Member

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    Yes, but still not taking the coupon :(
  10. Pappy shmaporist

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    Vedy Instuctive...

    mod note: Thanks for editing those pics out of your quote, I wish more people would do that.
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  11. TigerLord Alias for BradyY

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    Wow. Thanks very much for all these pictures. Wish I'd seen them before ordering my unit.

    Thank you for your contribution.

    PS. Damn that thing was dirty. MEK is awesome.
  12. VapeNStone Mark

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    the video is private?
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  13. elmomuzz That just happened...

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    Excellent pictures. I'm pretty sure I could have fixed that. You needed to sand the pad down to bare metal. I would have also snipped the end of the wire and stripped it to expose fresh wire. Then using the proper wattage iron, flux and solder it should be no problem.
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  14. vape4life Banned for life

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    I SO wanted to see that Cloud ressurected!!! I really thought there was gonna be a happy ending...and then WHAM! You hit me.
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  15. Bob Loblaw Astralnaut

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    sorry to hear. maybe contact dealer? looks like me and other dude mighta skidded in under the radar?
    if so i guess i got luckier than i thought?

    ouch on that bad repair. do agree that those wires should be screwed down, not soldered.

    am champing at the bit waiting for my cloud. is on truck and should be here within a few hrs. def. before noon. was gonna go snowboarding right after, but it looks like the winds are gonna be a little rough and tomorrow should be a little easier, still good snow, but a little more visible. plus i went to gym last night and i don't want to cripple myself. looks like i'm gonna get to spend the day breaking in the new toy. methinks i shoulda ordered extra ELB's immediately. tick, tick, tick, tick, tick.....
  16. MonsterWithoutBorders Recovering Canadian

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    We tried many things to get it to take. We were thinking that the temperature that we are dealing with is in access of 650 degrees. Normal solder does not work. You need silver solder which takes in excess of 1000 degrees to get to work. A soldering iron is not hot enough. We used a torch and caused the
    failure. Soldering was not right approach most likely. Some sort of welding operation is needed. That is how it originally was done we were able too see the weld point once we got the pad clean. Next time we might try drilling through the plate and putting in a very short screw in order to attach the wire. In our opinion this connection is really very poor for such an expensive piece of equipment. Design flaw.

    Knowledge is power. But I am pretty bummed too. At least I have a spare cloud to practice on if my own daily cloud gets this problem. I really wanted to succeed. Bah hum bug.
  17. sunsett70 Active Member

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    if i thought i was joking, then what was the risk? if you followed the flow of my emotion (in every way, shape & form) starting from post #10401, you would see that there would have been no reason for me to suddenly 'change' and insult him. and obviously, my Groucho smiley was considered 'jokey' by some, not TL though, so i can see your point. my conscience is clear though. So as to not hijack this thread, could you pls kindly provide me with the specific mod's name so i can take this conversation private? thank you.

    mod note: You seem to be having a really difficult time understanding the rule-
    • Public discussions of staff decisions are not permitted on the site. If you have any concerns or queries relating to a staff decision please take it up in private with a staff member.
  18. TigerLord Alias for BradyY

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    I didn't take offense at all. This isn't my first forum buffet. :)
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  19. kool kief New Member

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    Yeah, I opened a ticket at VaporStore yesterday but got no reply. Its just weird cause they state no discount on Volcano but nothing about the Cloud...
  20. ctweips Member

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    Just dropping by to update everyone on a truly amazing cloud story. I am a college student who obsessed over the cloud for a while last year until I was finally able to get it in July, however I was out of the state when ordering it so I shipped it to a friend of mine for safe keeping. Upon arrival of the package I told him to try it out for me, and within ten minutes of opening the box he had tripped over the cord and sent cloud and hydratube flying, the hydratube didnt make it but the cloud did. Nearly 4 months after receiving my cloud another friend left the cloud in the joint of my brand new skinny tube, tube tipped over with cloud in it and diagonally shattered the male joint. The joint still allows an ELB to fit in and vape properly, even after my friends have sent it flying off of the kitchen table twice more since then. I am horrified and amazed at all the damage this thing has received and is still working flawlessly, a little hurt aesthetically but this baby is tough! I still love my incredibly broken and hurt cloud, hoping above hope that she lasts until I order a replacement towards the start of summer.
  21. elmomuzz That just happened...

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    Soldering might not be as good as a weld but it should have stuck. I still contend I could have done it. I hope I never need to find out though. So far so good my cloud ticks away. :)
  22. TigerLord Alias for BradyY

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    For the price paid we'd expect all of our clouds to continue ticking away :)
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  23. Bob Loblaw Astralnaut

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    got my cloud! read the directions.
    turned dial all the way to left. flipped switch. loaded ELB.
    waiting for light to turn green. waiting, waiting.....
    while waiting i decided to move the dial a little and see what happens.
    move dial to 9 and it blinks and goes green... hmm.....move dial to 10.30-11 blinks and goes green. move dial to 12 (been warming up for 14 min) goes back to red. move dial all the way back down and goes red again at anything below 9 o'clock. am guessing that anything below 9 is too low for vaping temps?

    is 15 min. normal for warmup? just turned green! time to hit the green crack i just got!

    EDiT - oh and it came w/ some kinda rubber wrap for heat shielding. was a little rough getting it on straight. am hoping repeated heatings and coolings will help the adhesive
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  24. oldiebutgoodie Apostle, Church of Vaporization

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    Fwiw . . . as discussed earlier there have been a number of design and assembly process improvements since release. E.g., this unit does not have the same heater nor heater jacket as earlier versions (serial numbers do not correlate to age of unit). Also, I believe there have been additional changes to the bamboo and firmware. So anyone opening their unit may very well find some different innards.

    Also, one thing I didn't see that I struggled with, was removing the PCB. Did you try to do that? It appears on your unit that the board is mounted the same way as mine, with the rocker switch snap-attached to the casing wall (not accessible) and its feet thru the board soldered from the back side. I had to disconnect the switch from the board to get at it.
  25. vape4life Banned for life

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    Mine goes green at 7:00 but i'd never get vape at that temp....Good luck getting the heat shielding off if you ever want to lol

    EDIT: Thread Page 420!!!
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