VapeXhale Cloud

What temp are you using your Cloud at and how much are you filling your ELB? I think the Cloud is capable of what you are looking for if you fill your ELB to only 10-15% and have your temperature around 10:30.

interesting comparison, i was really debating between the two for use with water. Price wise theres no comparison, but does the lsv have the software to keep the temp constant throughout the hit? Thats one of the things I don't like about the dbv and makes it difficult to take quick back to back hits without manually turning the temp up.

Clearly the LSV has not the same heat retention capacity, which means, begin with a soft draw before drawing more natural.
The other small risk is combustion if you don't know your vape and put it at full blast 5min and start hiting slowly. Like an SSV and some other vapes.
Ime I only combusted twice in 2 years, at the beginning. But the VXC can go there too almost.

At the end this heat retention thing is really not an issue once you know how to use it. And when you come from smoke bonging, slow then harder draw is what you are use to when you light up your bowl to do it in one hit. The LSV mimicks that and there is the WPA lifting part wich is another mimick and feeling that I like as for me smoking a bong always meant ripping it in one hit.
And there, is the thing, if you are looking for a one hitter the LSV is not able to it without sub combustion or almost, that's why I like the Cloud actually, it's a perfect one hitter.

At "equal" temp the hits are a little little more airy with the LSV but that and the all glass bowl is what makes the difference I think

Maybe if I had free meds I will only take the Cloud for its huge hits, but that also mean weedhog.

And I like to watch at the herb changing color when hitting with the LSV, thing that you can't do with the Cloud.

Hard to choose...better to have both

Cannabinaut: My loads always differ as I try to avoid patterns when it comes to cannabis, and eventhough I am pretty sure I know it won't do it I'll try

Have you tried using less herb in your loads? For me, I have noticed that I still get huge hits and use less than I used to with my other vaporizers. Herb is pricey around my area, so I needed a device that would stretch my supply. The cloud has not only stretched my supply, but it has saved me money I would have spent on other vapes.

On my clouds highest temp with a fully loaded ELB, I can produce around 6 HUGE hits. I think that I read one of the mods got around 12 hits with each elb. How are you only getting 2?

Just a thought to try and help. I would suggest creating a sensible, for your needs, pattern with your cannabis use if your want to conserve. Random load size can be very wasteful. IME the cloud can be used as a ass-kicking machine, or a ever surprising conserver. Choice is yours. Haven't used an lsv, so cant say anything about that.

Just as an unbiased FYI, and only because you asked Vaplexus was banned by the moderators. He won't be posting here anymore.

In fact, he did tell me he wouldn't, otherwise I would never have taken it upon myself to say such a thing.

That's really too bad. I enjoyed seeing the things that vaplexus was working on. That 3-D printer is really fascinating to me. Hopefully he changes his mind and continues to share his creative "prints".

'Vape-Rape?'

There have definitely been a couple times that I've taken a hit from the Cloud, and received 'dab-like' results, such as the full ELB during the 'efficiency test' I did

I agree with this, a lot. I felt like my VAS transformed into GAS, with the purchase of the Cloud. I no longer find myself shopping for vapes...if anything, I notice that I need to keep up on the new ones more now, as I'm content enough with the Cloud to just not think about other vapes. Like you mentioned though, a bag vape for group use would definitely be a load off of the mind. I've not used the Cloud yet with more than 3 people at a time. Not saying that I wouldn't, but I can imagine I would be a bundle of nerves, not getting effectively medicated, worrying.

There are a couple variables to consider. How 'full' you consider a full, ELB. Some people stuff them, some sprinkle/let it pack naturally, and others use the ELB to scoop up flowers. Also, your definition of a 'hit' may vary, from theirs. So, if they are packing their ELB less full than you are, and/or are taking larger hits, they could easily reduce the amount of hits it takes to vape that amount of flower.

I'd be surprised to see him come back here. Wouldn't blame him either

I hope he comes back, I've enjoyed his posts and the Cloud accessories looked very promising.

I wouldn't come back if I were him. He got treated very poorly...

give some people a gold star and they think they're a sherrif

Well it is Friday morning and I am glad my terribad work week is soon to close.

When I get home tonight I am cleaning my FC bubbler really good and packing 4 ELB's in anticipation of a Cloudy evening!

I think this is a great idea. It would also lessen the stress on the power cord itself. I think it would be very easy for the vxc crew to (re)design the soon-to-be released cloud sleeve and incorporate some way for it to stand the vxc upside-down.

That wouldn't work for any tube/bubbler with a dewarr style joint, unless the can diameter was smaller than the cloud unit. Not sure even the ht would work with that.

Not if it was a seperate stand you put the cloud into.

I wonder how plugs will be in international versions. In US, it is pretty much standardized, but in EU there are several different incompatible plugs in different countries. So there would be a model for each country.

I think it would be better if the Cloud was powered by detachable power cord (female for the right end being on the Cloud). Also cord breakage would also be much cheaper and easier to fix. Just buy new power cord.

What do you mean? I think only the UK has different plugs.

Or you could use an adapter like you would for other products.

So, I've been experimenting with my Cloud.

I still can't figure out why I need to turn it off and on twice before it starts heating. It does the 1 hour shut off, two times before I get it to start. It's not a problem, just a nuisance.

However, I've been messing with the load sizes like people say. I usually pack a .2 ELB. Today i split it to two .1 ELBs. I could not get the hits I get with my .2 ELB, and I could not get it as dark as I can when it's filled to .2 ELB. So I'm not sure what the magical secret is. Do I need to increase temp for smaller loads?

Thanks.

German plug, i think type F.
wouldn't fit:
Type E.
Because of grounding pin being different.

But there is also this plug, that can fit both. Don't know if there are more types.

Never seen the second one but i bet it does exactly the same as the first, that pin is probably the ground.