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Underdog Log Vapes

Discussion in 'Plug-in Vaporizers' started by underdog, Aug 21, 2011.

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  1. underdog

    underdog shade-tree vapor engineer Manufacturer

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    Ah, if it's an AirCore we'll probably want to try and do something about it.. that's the one design that can't be tightened back up like what I described above. The movement still won't be a huge issue in the short term though so go ahead and keep using it but send Underdogette a message when you have a sec so she can talk to you about options to fix things for you. :tup:
     
  2. formicae

    formicae Well-Known Member

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    guys i got a 'zebrawood' skin for my laptop, my zebrawood glulam looks like a hologram on top of it

    edit: no wait, the laptop is the hologram :whoa:

    [​IMG]
     
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  3. underdog

    underdog shade-tree vapor engineer Manufacturer

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    :whoa: Indeed.
     
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  4. JESUSgotNAILED

    JESUSgotNAILED Well-Known Member

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    I'm actually not sure what core I have. Is AirCore the regular/usual one? I didn't mention to change it when I placed the order so I would assume I have whatever you guys normally used.
     
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  5. underdog

    underdog shade-tree vapor engineer Manufacturer

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    No problem, if you send Underdogette a message we can figure out what kind of core it is. We had a period of overlap for a while that we had both core types in production. Either way we'll get things sorted for you. :tup:
     
  6. Chicken Charlie

    Chicken Charlie MicroDose Cognoscente

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    From day one the level of customer service, support, and friendliness proves to be the hallmark for this exceptional company. My opinion (not withstanding) is that both Dave and Underdogette view each customer as a unique entitiy and treats them accordingly. His above-captioned post is just one of many in this thread to support my opinion...Just sayin'.
     
  7. 8man

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    I received a new UD over the weekend, but it's running a bit hot. I tried using the extension cable and the herb was still much toastier than I would like.

    I found I really like the temperature with the VVPS turned between 8~9V, but having the bulk of the VVPS on the cord triggers my OCD. :uhoh:

    Any suggestions on a wall wart that could get me down to 9V without the VVPS or a dimmer? Looking through the Jameco site is overwhelming for someone who knows almost nothing about electronics.
     
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  8. formicae

    formicae Well-Known Member

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    Why not put the VVPS between the power supply and the extension cord? :hmm:

    Anyway, would something like this do you? I currently use one of these, if you don't mind a brick on the floor.
     
  9. 8man

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    I do have the VVPS between the wall wart and the extension. I would prefer if I didn't need to use the VVPS at all, though. Those two power supplies look like they might work, I'll investigate further. Thank you for your suggestions!
     
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  10. mucsusn

    mucsusn 60 going on 20

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    You have to get four things right......voltage, current, tip size and tip polarity. Check the numbers on your current wall wart. Now change output voltage to 9V, match or exceed current rating, then match tip size and polarity......good to go
     
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  11. 8man

    8man Active Member

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    Thank you so much for these clear instructions! I think this should do the trick.
     
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  12. mucsusn

    mucsusn 60 going on 20

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    You’ve got it, my friend
     
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  13. JCharles

    JCharles FC 06/06/2017 | ACMPR 26/07/2017

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    I was able to tidy up all the cables with a few zip ties.

    Looks much better and I'm not worried about tripping over a cable.
     
  14. Stu

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    Shameless cross-post from the Vape Temp Charts thread.

    Not terribly exciting but here is a chart of an Underdog heating up. This was with a voltage setting of 11.67.

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    :peace:
     
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  15. JCharles

    JCharles FC 06/06/2017 | ACMPR 26/07/2017

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    Very cool! I'm curious how long it took to reach temp after you blew on the heater.

    For those times you lose a little avb and blow without thinking.
     
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  16. Stu

    Stu Maconheiro Staff Member

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    If you click on the chart, you can zoom in enough to read the time at the bottom. Each vertical line is about 18 seconds for quick reference.

    Please note that I didn't just give the core a quick blow like you would blowing off ABV, I gave a full lung full as hard as I could, so this chart is not a realistic example of real world use.

    :peace:
     
  17. 8man

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    Just wanted to report back on the 9V wall wart: it's not enough voltage. Even though my vvps reads 9V at my favorite temperature the 9V wall wart feels much cooler. It feels more like the temperature of the vvps at 7.5V. Underdogette warned me that the readings on my vvps might not be an accurate measurement of the actual voltage received by the UD. I'm sticking to the vvps.
     
  18. mucsusn

    mucsusn 60 going on 20

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    That makes sense, but all is not lost.....if you look around, you can find some variable voltage wall warts, some I've seen with a 10.5 volt setting. The ones I'm talking about are all self contained in the wart, so you could still get the desired ergonomic results that you seek.

    Thanks for the insight into the many variables that vaping these beautiful custom devices bring us:cheers:
     
  19. NizzyJones

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  20. Commander Cody

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    I think you will enjoy the vvps. The ability to “fine tune” for different stems,strains, or even to whitewall a water tool is a big plus. You may be able to find a cord arrangement that is more pleasing to you. Remember you can use the extension cords and vvps in a number of configurations. Wall wart>extension cord>vvps>extension cord>dog might be a possibility to get things arranged more to your liking.
     
  21. Vitolo

    Vitolo Vaporist

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    With or without the VVPS... the "Dog"is a good companion!
     
  22. Diggy Smalls

    Diggy Smalls Tom Cruises

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    Busted out my dog and decided to run it on the stock power supply. It's one of the last aircores and I'm rocking my usual nylon and going through water with a strong sativa. I spaced out 4 bowls over an episode of Living Single and now I'm feeling good.
    Sipping on some Dale's Pale Ale and just feeling grateful to have my dog.

    It's dependable, easy to use, efficient. It does not extract quite as deeply as my other log vape, but I'm not complaining. The vape signature of my Underdog is very pleasurable. It's like a cruise high. Does that make any sense? It's not a face smasher. The way I use it, it's not sipping. It's a long one hit extraction with tons of vapor from a small amount. And the avb is reusable. So yeah.
    Plus, every Underdog is a unique work of art. I love the simplicity and beauty of it.
     
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  23. Edge4o7

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    Hey guys, got myself my first dog during the winter sale. He's figured walnut, sc2. https://i.imgur.com/1n7P7Cu.jpg He's gonna be the perfect companion for a while, I can tell. Bad cell camera and lighting don't do it justice but you guys know how great these things look.

    I have a couple questions about how to get the most out of it. I'm sure they've been answered, I've lurked the thread a bit but it's obviously long lol.

    If there's a solid post of info someone could point me towards that'd be cool, otherwise my main concerns are below.

    Trying to find my ideal voltage. I chose this vape partly because of the power and I wanted a fuller extraction than I was getting from my other vapes. I've been messing with various temps trying to find the sweet spot. I started around 11.4 and in general I didn't tend to combust on my first hits I guess because my herbs kinda moist but then I'd combust on second or third hit until I turned it down to about 10.9. I miss those first hits from around 11.4 though, not gonna lie. I could start there and then turn it down after a hit I guess but seems kind of annoying, I'd rather find a stable spot to stick with through a session. How do you guys find the right voltage? If you combust how do you know if you should lower voltage vs adjusting screen or if it was your draw? Are you guys capable of combusting at your ideal voltage and you just need to keep the technique down? Any tips in this regard would be appreciated.

    Was also wondering if it's possible to more fully extract an overly packed bowl in a gong in 1 or 2 hits. Currently takes me like 3 or 4 with stirring, usually the abv top and center is really dark (good) but the rest around is really yellow/green and through a small bubbler it just stops producing vapor until I stir it. I generally do pretty long slow draws. Don't get me wrong, it fills up my mobius sidecar no problem, it's just that instead of me stopping the draw because I'm scared I'm gonna die I just don't have that option and the vapor stops haha. Any advice for big bong rips appreciated.

    Last thing is I was wondering if it's a big deal if herb touches the heating element. I assume not really as long as its not effecting airflow and anything that falls in there can just be blown out but just wondering.

    I basically have no problems with smaller loads so if I could just get a little more mileage out of the gong I would be stoked.
     
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  24. NizzyJones

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    The newer dogs tend to run hotter but check out the Best of thread

    The screen in the heater tube isn't the heating element, that's down further inside so no real worries about touching it.

    I usually run at a steady temp, for my Mk1 dogs it's around 11V. Most of the time I use the NonGs and just load enough that I can kill it one hit. Glass stems usually do require some stirring to vape evenly. I treat that as nylon=on demand, glass=session where I know I'm gonna be sitting down for awhile sipping and stirring.
     
  25. JCharles

    JCharles FC 06/06/2017 | ACMPR 26/07/2017

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    @Edge4o7 You will get better extraction if you load smaller amounts. I fill 1mm to 2mm above the basket screen and tamp lightly. Everything sits inside the screen even with a super light tamp (more of a leveling).

    Then it's 1 or 2 rips and good. I don't stir, I just do another stem. Better flavour and great extraction. Save it all for avb goodies.


    Draw speed is important for regulating the heat, especially through a water pipe. Start with a slow draw to pull heat into the herb, and increase your draw towards the end. The slower speed will be hotter than the fast draw.


    Check out my Instagram- link in signature - I have many milky UD rips through water. Usually at 11.0v for videos.


    I don't let my herb touch the screen over the core. I don't even come close. I'm usually 1mm above the heater tube and I get awesome rips.
     

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