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TUBO evic/dual

Discussion in 'Portable Vaporizers' started by funkyjunky, Oct 21, 2016.

  1. imor jones

    imor jones Well-Known Member

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    You can of course vape Hash in a tubo. But not smoking ;)
     
  2. Shit Snacks

    Shit Snacks Milaana. Lana. LANA. LAANAAAAAA

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    If you're talking about a solar stem, fill in the basket holds about that much. To make it last longer you want to start at even lower temps, like 350F even. The first you had so be lighter with flavor, but then you temp step up a little at a time. If you load more into the joint you will probably need higher temperatures... I don't know, personally I find it works much better loading in the basket. Also yeah, this is much more powerful than a solo, hit for hit. Just experiment when you get it, you'll figure it all out then! I know tough waiting for something new
     
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  3. Bolduque

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    My tubo came in last Saturday, what a beauty! No fancy colours as I basically wanted one from stock, but I love the look nonetheless, the solid wood feels great. I was only able to do a single session with a warmup, 6 minutes at 180c and afterwards half a cruise session at 200~210 using Bruce banner. What a device!! The flavor was there until the very end and this got me to a place where I needed at least 3x 10 minute sessions with the air. Thoroughly impressed. In the end the avb was still a light brown so I feel that there is more to be extracted.

    FJ sadly forgot to pack my bent mp with spikes for extra cooling, something I think that will make this device even better at higher temps.

    All in all I am very happy with my purchase!
     
  4. madhockeydad

    madhockeydad Art is beauty

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    I love the Tubo. Do others find that it really goes thru batteries quickly? The best hits I’ve gotten is when the battery is above 25%. Also each hit lowers the battery by at least 10%. Not that I’m complaining. The heater is very strong. It would be interesting to pair with a stronger mod. I’m getting one of the heaters without the mod so I can try it with the Paranormal DNA250C. I really like that mod and I think it will have a lot more power than the Evic. Anyone else finding a similar experience?
     
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  5. Alex3oe

    Alex3oe Well-Known Member

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    the Tubo firmware won't run on any DNA mod :(
     
  6. madhockeydad

    madhockeydad Art is beauty

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    Ok. But I should be able to use the Paranormal software to run the TuboX, shouldn’t I? I just need to measure and lock the resistance. Hopefully that will work.

    I do have a new Evic in a box that I can use as an alternative.
     
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  7. virtualpurple

    virtualpurple Well-Known Member

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    I have been wondering the same think with my tubo-x. I had bought a rx300 but loading the tubo firmware on it fried something and now it will completely drain one of the 4 batteries and can’t run anything for long I’m assuming because something is whacky with the device now. Flashing it back to stock firmware or to Arctic Fox hasn’t resolved anything.

    That being said, the only mod I have left is my Wismec Reuleaux Dna250 that I use for my Z.

    I know that the tubo firmware isn’t compatible with the dna boxes, but with the tubo-x we would just be connecting the heater, it seems there should be a way to calibrate it to work. But that’s about as far as I’ve gotten. Was hoping to read of someone’s successes!
     
  8. GoldenBud

    GoldenBud Well-Known Member

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    Paranormal software will work, in Wattage mode
     
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  9. madhockeydad

    madhockeydad Art is beauty

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    Wattage mode only? Do you know why wattage mode only? Is it the coil material or something else?

    I’ll probably break out one of the Evics and update the software. I like the Tubo software. Too bad that won’t work in TCR mode. Thanks.
     
  10. GoldenBud

    GoldenBud Well-Known Member

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    I meant to say that with a DNA chip you'll feel the power of the mod, 40W with it will feel much stronger. I think it can be running TCR, but give it also a try with power mod
     
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  11. madhockeydad

    madhockeydad Art is beauty

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    Perfect. Thank you.
     
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  12. virtualpurple

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    Well I dabbled with the tubo-x and the Wismec Reuleaux DNA 250. In escribe I used @HerbieVonVapster’s splinter coil material and have the ohms locked at .283. I have the power at 40 watts but I had it set to be temperature dominant. After a few draws with an empty stem I started a stem at 390 and have climbed to 420. Smooth tasty vapor and I am feeling the effects very well at the moment. I could probably keep drawing off this stem for a bit more but I’m feeling good. I have done the last hits through a bubbler to cut down on the harshness because I only have a short stem.

    I didn’t have any sort of preheat values assigned, but I may look into that.

    If I hear from @funkyjunky or others that I’m going to blow myself up I’ll shelve the endeavor but I’m encouraged by the results so far!
     
  13. funkyjunky

    funkyjunky www.lamart.ch Manufacturer

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    heyhey,

    of course the tubox can be attached to any 510 mod, id say 50watts is required to have the full temp range. its recommended to cap watts to 70w while setting things up, higher watts can fry the coils on accident if things go south. once tc is set up properly watts can be opened up again.

    here is the tubox quick setup guide that covers firmware supported mods, tc able mods and watt only mods:
    http://tubo.lamart.ch/TUBOxquicksetup.pdf

    dont let the coils cruise when glowing for long periods, this is especially important when using power mode and cruise.



    almost all TUBO evics are built, there is one left that is waiting for final assembly. meanwhile the production on tubo duals has started. i will open a new thread for the duals very soon.

    have a great weekend everyone! :D
     
  14. btka

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    @funkyjunky what happened with the bag filling project (like volcano) for the tubo...
    was very interessted in it... didn´t it work? I remember you was not very pleased with the airpump you had or so... when I am not wrong.... If it would work as good as with the volcano I think that would be a great accessorie and would make the tubo even more versatile...
     
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  15. funkyjunky

    funkyjunky www.lamart.ch Manufacturer

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    the bagfiller as it is in the video is very loud. needs 1.5minutes to fill a bag. it does work tho, yes!
    finding an airpump with high flowrate is not so easy, the current one is not even a pump but a strong fan. so, that hasnt been successful yet, full disclosure i havent followed up on it too much after finding out its a bit harder to find.
    if you or anyone else would like to have the current one send me a message.
     
  16. Bolduque

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    Two questions, do you guys run warmup mode every time at the start of a cruise session (even though you've just completed one?)

    Secondly, when I use my short wooden stem + s&b dosing caps the fit is not tight at all, if I connect the whip to the glass insert and use the whip I basically dislodge/move the Mouthpiece the whole time. Anything I could do to fix this?

    Maybe one more, I do not use the tubo that often, usually only 1-3 sessions at night (depending on the nr of people). I've set my power to 55w and have eco mode set to 1 but I have four batteries in total, would you guys say this is a bit unnecessary and I would get better performance if I put the settings back to stock? Or would I also risk getting device hot errors?
     
  17. papa_ent

    papa_ent Active Member

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    I barely use warmup now, really only if I packed quite a bit. And even then only for the first bowl, the heater glass and stem should be warm at that point. A few pulls of warm air through the herb will get the same result. My dosing caps fit but I dont use them, I prefer to pack directly into the wooden stem. It should have a screen in there, if it doesnt there is a spot to hold one.
    I have my power at 60W as I used to get the "device too hot" warning, I dont anymore. I dont find either eco mode makes an appreciable difference. Regarding batteries, I dont really ever use more than 1 in a session and all the on-demand devices chew up batteries.
     
  18. Bolduque

    Bolduque Member

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    Wouldn't packing your herb like that lead to herb falling out and onto the heater screen? Or do you cap it off with something else? Also I do not have an issue with it going through batteries, hence the question whether or not I really need eco mode (as I always have batteries on hand). So far we've never used more than 2 batteries but that is with 55w power and eco 2.

    I've seen FJ talk about 'power mode' on reddit, what is the difference between that and the tubo mode? How would I switch to it? (keeping in mind I do not have a bong or water piece)
     
  19. Shit Snacks

    Shit Snacks Milaana. Lana. LANA. LAANAAAAAA

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    if you take the first hit upside down, the load stays put in the stem for the most part. I also have never used warm up and never gotten a too hot message with stock settings... Power mode is just using watts instead of temperature control, I don't know why you would want to do that with the tubo though? It is designed for temp control and works very well. No real reason not to use eco mode imo, you could set your wattage back to 70 but you don't really need to unless you're drawing really hard and fast...
     
  20. Bolduque

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    Thanks for the reply! I was just wondering regarding the power mode, indeed tubo mode makes more sense (but what is it for otherwise?). I'll leave eco at 1 and switch the Powe back to 70 and see how it performs, though for now I've been taking a few short quick draws to start and after that longer, slower draws. My herb still comes out a bit green at 215c so I might bump it up to 220-230 though if I'm not mistaken that is pushing it to combustion ranges, right? I'll try the upside down method with the stem, thanks!
     
  21. Shit Snacks

    Shit Snacks Milaana. Lana. LANA. LAANAAAAAA

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    The temps are relative, very dependent on your draw and pack. If you are using a cap screen and loading large bowls in the joint, you would need higher temps as the extra metal and distance robs some of the heat from the load. Power mode is part of the software bc the mod box is designed for ecigs (other 510 convection vapes like Splinter are made for use with wattage mode, temp control must be configured by the user, Tubo has it already configured since you buy it all as one unit) Lot of options in the Tubo software, but doesn't mean you need em
     
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  22. papa_ent

    papa_ent Active Member

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    When I pack I tamp the material just enough to keep it in place. I get crumbs on the screen sometimes but I usually tap out any crumbs after use. If your getting green material at 215c my bet is you are packing kinda far away from the heater, or else packing a ton of material. Next session try packing directly into your wooden stem, with the herb exposed to the heater. As long as you arent beating on your tubo your herb will stay in place cuz it is a touch sticky. Run warmup and when that finishes do a cruise at 210c, with your long draws by the second draw it will be pretty great.
     
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  23. Bolduque

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    You are for sure right! With the bent stem I am basically packing it full and capping it off with a basket (not tamping it down otherwise, getting ground material in via sucking it up like a straw). I will try directly on the wooden stem next time but I do wonder, as I enjoy the bigger load (vs having to change often) should my current method be viable or is it basically just too much? Or will upping the temp + stirring also achieve a fuller extraction? That said, my current method, even though the material is still greenish, gets me to an easy [7+] with a single load (from which I feel I could get even more)
     
  24. papa_ent

    papa_ent Active Member

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    I have found the smaller pack exposed at the end is the most efficient. I pack the bent stem fuller but I do end up at a slightly higher temp and it takes longer to finish. I dont stir, I used rotate the stem once but even that I dont think is necessary. I feel like packing smaller a couple times uses the same amount of battery and is just more efficient with herb.
     
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  25. leveltree

    leveltree never wanted to beat that one ;)

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    The only reason to not use eco mode would be inconsistent draw recognition imo, which can happen if you're using a water tool and long whip or draw only very slightly.
    Otherwise it should only safe battery power and heat up Tubo a bit less.

    Regarding the wattage, you should try it out but in the end all the options should work (like 40-70w range I guess).

    I think a new thread is a good idea because this one is already quite long and it can still serve as a reference point. ;)

    I'm really glad that I own a Tubo even though a dual would have made me happy too probably :D
    But it's kinda sad to see this versions end of production. :shrug:
     
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