I'd rather hit my pen than a dab torch rig. Ussualy the taste is better, and my lungs like it more. For bigger hits than what my pen can provide, I use my underdog and water. I wrap rosin in hemp fiber. I can get huge hits with this set up, or dial it down for more flavorful hits. My limited experience with enails may be the exception, but they can also complicate my relatively simple set up.