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ThermoVape Revolution for concentrates

Discussion in 'Portable Vaporizers' started by sessnet, Jan 20, 2012.

  1. Xchadb

    Xchadb Meltin pipe Glass Blower

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    thank you man! yeah im a patient here in good ol Colorado Springs. i love tokin daily too, he is also from colorado...ive thought about doin a video series like that, as i used to realllly used to be into glass but ive downsized most of my collection as i havent smoked in a few months :) vapor only! im proud! i own a few vapes, want to try out a few more too. I only bought the rev kit, so ill need an herb chamber and a derlin sleeve to get started id LOVE to try out herbs in this thing!! Did any of ya cetch my ghetto omicron on the channel too? thought ya'd get a kick outa that
  2. jambandphan03

    jambandphan03 Vapor Goddess

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    I think that is what i am experiencing right now. I have some pretty dark bubble hash, and also some qwiso, it's vaping ok, but I have had to clean it out and start over once after my first try making a huge sticky mess inside the tube. Its still new to me, so I am trying to be patient. I did notice it has to get really hot before I start to get vapor. I don't know if it is because I am using a non-reovlution battery tube, with the concentrates adapter and the 2- thenergy 3.0 123a exactly like the ones it comes with. I can't see why that would make it so hot to hold. I can say though my button is just below the connection point, and it gets too hot as well, I had to make a sleeve in order to test it. I might be purchasing the entire unit soon if I can't work this out. It does say they can't promise anything on how it would behave on a non-TV made device. I'm going to keep working on it. I'm getting a little over medicated trying to get this thing working right :ko: I don't have anything more pure to compare with right now. How hot does the Revolution battery case get? I saw one post asking for a derlin sleeve to be sold on the website.
  3. Xchadb

    Xchadb Meltin pipe Glass Blower

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    im sorry but while holding this thing i have urges to just slam the bottom of it onto everything like a hammer, the damn thing feels so solid! i love it!! If i ever get jumped first thing im grabin is the thermovape to crack some skulls! hahah :brow:


    also if anyone's thumb just feels awkward holding the switch up for a long time, try holding it the other way, with your fingers pulling UP twords yourself on the switch, and your thumb on the back of the device, much more natural and comfortable for me personally.

    also jamband, i feel with the waxes im using that are pretty solid, they take a good warm up time before it starts hitting!
  4. jambandphan03

    jambandphan03 Vapor Goddess

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    Well, part of where I think I went wrong in the beginning was having a friend over, distracting me from paying closer attention to what I was doing. So I just kindof blobbed some sticky hash in and started trying to go. It smeared all around the inside when I twisted the upper cap to close the window, getting all over the inner sleeve too. I eventually put it down and decided to wait until my friend left so I could concentrate on what I was doing more closely.
  5. msb241178

    msb241178 Active Member

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    Oh joy!, just checked my tracking this morning to find that its being held by customs. At a guess i would say that thermovape declared it as the full value on the customs declaration thus creating charges when it lands here in the UK. Problem that i find is that USPS wont advise you that this can happen. Customs here can be a real bitch, a few months back they held a package of mine for three weeks before they released it.
  6. VaporNinja

    VaporNinja Majihuana Enthusiast

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    why would they hold it? not like it's a bag of pot.

  7. jambandphan03

    jambandphan03 Vapor Goddess

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    Well the qwiso is responding way better than my bubble hash. Wish I has started with it, would have made a better first impression on me. It melts quick and seems to vape way better than the bubble and I don't have to get it nearly as hot. Hope to be able to have some BHO soon to give this a proper run. I had more hopes for the solids, but so far it's been a lot of fidgeting around and messy. I will still chock some of that up to the learning curve, and that I am tired. Time to rest and try again tomorrow. Night all.
  8. msb241178

    msb241178 Active Member

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    When i bought this item from thermovape in the US, in essence i never paid VAT on it and that is what im getting stung for, when it entered this country it was applicable for VAT. The only way round this is to declare the value at under $45, anything under this value will not incur VAT charges here.

    So, In answer to your question, Customs are holding it because it has incurred VAT charges, that is the only possible reason it could be. This is one of the pitfalls of sending from the US to the UK, but what i find strange is that USPS will allow you to send an item but not advise you that this can happen.

    The charges will be calculated from the customs value on the declaration form, at a guess if he put a value of $150 (it's true value), then it will be $30/20 in VAT charges (20%) + the usual 19.50 handling charge that Parcelforce always charge you. So, about $60/40 in total.

    In Retrospect, perhaps i should of mentioned this to Thermovape, but i assumed that they had done there homework on this, seeing how proffesionaly they conduct themselves.
  9. WatTyler

    WatTyler Revolting Peasant

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    I feel you pain msb, I'm always pissed off with these fees- I can handle taxes- it's for the public purse, but it's the handling fees that really get me, which are often more than the tax charges themselves and it nothing more than legalised extortion. Bastards. :mad:

    In fairness to Thermovape it's probably most professional to abide by the law and complete the customs declaration truthfully! ;) But it never hurts to ask, and I've found many retailers willing to help.

    If you do ask somewhere in future I just thought I'd point out that the $45 limit (it was around $60 the last time I checked the exchange rate- 40) only applies to items marked as a 'gift'. If it's marked as 'commercial'/'merchandise'/'purchase' whatever the terminology is, whih it typically is, then the VAT threshold is only 15 ($22-ish i think). So it's gotta be marked right too.

    Plus to any UK guys wanting to get the $250 Thermovape- be aware that this would probably be liable for customs duty on top of the 20% VAT and handling fees if it's marked as full retail value. The threshold for this is 135 ($210), but I've not idea what the rate is for vapes.
  10. Abysmal Vapor

    Abysmal Vapor Shaman of The Pyramid of Orlin'Malah

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    Well they tax you because you somehow gotta defend the domestic production.. So they add their tax to balance losses.. on import/export .. I paid 20% to most of my vaporizers + handling + 2 $ for any day in the storage room.. after it arrives not after you are notified .. which can be weeks.. LOL...
  11. lepstadder

    lepstadder Well-Known Member

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    ::::::: A Tip For Solid Concentrates ::::::::::::::

    dry sift, bubble etc

    grind up material as small as you can

    completely cover the ceramic element and fill the device almost to the filling hole

    push it down/pack it on top of the element, into the very middle of the tube

    give it a long 7-12 second warm up before your pull (if unit is cold)

    then pull the metal part off the element and repack everything down into the middle and repeat

    I can get about 4-5 good hits off impure concentrates before i need to clear the unvaped sticky plant material out and start over
  12. weedemon

    weedemon enthusiast

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    if you undervalue a produce that you are sending in the mail, you are looking at very very poor compensation should it item not arrive too. :(

    I dont like paying additional charges either though. so i totally know where you are coming from msb!
  13. OF

    OF Well-Known Member

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    I don't think it's realistic for you to expect the US Post Office to accurately inform you of what UK customs is likely to do. They're probably more in the dark than you. And it's a lot tougher in other countries, some for practical purposes impossible to predict. Consider if they did, folks would demand money from them because UK Customs held it longer than they said, or charged more.

    OF
  14. OF

    OF Well-Known Member

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    I don't think it's realistic for you to expect the US Post Office to accurately inform you of what UK customs is likely to do. They're probably more in the dark than you. And it's a lot tougher in other countries, some for practical purposes impossible to predict. Consider if they did, folks would demand money from them because UK Customs held it longer than they said, or charged more.

    That might be the official stand, but I think there's a simpler answer. They tax you at every turn for the same reason dogs lick their balls, because they can.

    OF
  15. msb241178

    msb241178 Active Member

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    I'm not blaming thermovape, with most companies across the board its the buyers responsibilty to cover any charges when importing anything from the US to the UK, i was fully aware of that. The post was made more out of frustration than anything, i'm recovering from a collapsed lung at the moment and cant vaporize or dab, been a week now!.

    Customs are still a bunch of robbin bastards though, i think we can all agree on that one!!
  16. lepstadder

    lepstadder Well-Known Member

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    Hey TV?

    What is the life of the ceramic heating element? is it covered by warranty?

    I am concerned do to the fact that vaporizing lower grade concentrates seams to have done more than "stain" the ceramic


    I cleaned the unit in iso and boiled it and the ceramic was still dark after a 16plus hour wait for drying it still sizzled and popped as if water was inside the ceramic and it smoke with a smell distinct of medical concentrate



    It only will barely visibly glow
  17. OF

    OF Well-Known Member

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    I'm not TV, but I did get one of the first units (drove 25 miles to get it, toured the factory, met 'the guys'). I found and reported all this here at FC and was assured by them it was normal. It's there if you care to look for it. About a week back. They really are stains. Stains are stains, they don't wash away in water or ISO. Cheap concentrates don't evaporate off like top quality ones. They leave junk behind. At the time I could barely see a glow somewhat off center in mine in a dark room. Now I'm not sure I can even do that. It still works just fine, however.

    Drying them out is important and not trivial. Leaving it out at room temperature expecting the last few drops (or fraction really) of water from deep inside the ceramic to make their way out on their own will take a long long time. I rinsed my unit in ISO (alcohol is easier to evaporate) and put it in a warm place (on top of my PD) for a while.

    IIRC there is a 3 month warranty on them, after watching them wind 4 heaters before getting a good one (tough specs) I remember joking about 'let's try it anyway, I've got 3 months to break it'. The were not amused, but didn't think that was at all likely. Not that they'd be less than instantly responsive if it did.....

    Not to worry, enjoy your machine.

    OF
  18. lepstadder

    lepstadder Well-Known Member

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    thanks for the response, I will take your word for it until I hear otherwise


    again stains dont smoke and smolder, I am just saying this because if you were to "clean" it as per the directions it may still have detectable medication residue on it, in non medical states that could be a problem
  19. OF

    OF Well-Known Member

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    Thanks, glad to help.

    Yes, you're right there's no way to wash stuff out of the inside of the ceramic once it's in there. In a world that can find cocaine on 90% of the money in circulation, the cops can bust you for it if you make it worth their while. TV is probably another case, but I wouldn't count of being able to 'sterilize' a well used Revolution. Not an issue for the medical users it's intended for, of course, but worth keeping in mind for the rest.

    OF
  20. jambandphan03

    jambandphan03 Vapor Goddess

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    Good day to you all :brow:

    Day 2 testing is going much smoother today than it did last night, as far as getting things working properly and not overheating my device. I was working with some very powdery kief this time. I got decent vapor hits from the kief, and it seemed to vape thoroughly, but I ended up with a mouth full of spent powder on one of the draws. I feel I have been careful to not over do it on the inhale. I think I will take a hole punch to a stainless steel screen and press it up into the mouth piece to avoid future mishaps. Then to clean it out, I found some of the residual powder packed down around the under edges of the ceramic disk, clogging up the air flow. It took a few minutes, a flashlight, a toothpick and some blowing to get most of it out of there. I think I will conclude that though you can use solids in this, it works so much better with oils as if the ceramic disk acts like a little, absorbent hot nail or so it would seem. So about a day learning curve seems to be the average eh?
    :ko:
  21. Stu

    Stu Maconheiro Staff Member

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    I just went to Hollywood to get some nice concentrates (the dispensaries around here don't carry oils or bho, just hashes) and I am very anxious to try them out in my Revolution. I picked up some Silver OG, Super Mix and Platinum Bubba. They look delicious. My problem is that I want to clean out my unit to start "testing", but unfortunately it still has some Amber Glass in it and it wont stop hitting! I can't bring myself to waste (who knows how much) but I'm getting too stoned sitting here trying to kill it. I have to prime it for about 20-30 seconds, but at that point it just hits freely and doesn't show any signs of stopping.

    I need more friends to help me in dire situations like this. :ko:
  22. Sinclue

    Sinclue OK disagree with me, I can't force you to be right

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    LOL I've got the same "problem". Bought a couple of different melts, but can't finish off the first batch. What a great problem to have though. Thought I had it finished, but then put in some fresh batteries and wham, bam, here we go again. Bummer :lol:
  23. jambandphan03

    jambandphan03 Vapor Goddess

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    sitting here wishing I had something better than the qwiso but I guess it's better than nothing at all :) all good things in good time.
  24. Xchadb

    Xchadb Meltin pipe Glass Blower

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    Im on my 7'th different strain from moonrocks so far....man every time i come on to post im just so medicated from this device.... its been a few days, i havent touched any other vape, pipe, bong or herb at all since ive bought my omi. Portable concentrates is the way to go :) since everyone i know besides close friends HATES WEED, discrepancy is most important to me sometimes, this allows my house to appear "stoner free" while being medicated off my ass ALL THE TIME :D its nice not having to either be paranoid that my house isnt clean, or that my house smells a certian way, and if my house IS clean im usually not medicated, or able to be :/ because i cant leave the ssv or EQ on the table and the required vaped weed jar, the crumbs everywhere, the smell, the tools, grinders ect laying around. Lets just say the revolution has revolutionized and totally portabalized my life haha i can stash things and be discreet, yet be medicated as much as an average loser pothead, but while still maintaining a nice life :D for me MMJ just means if im not medicated, im nervous and anxious as hell and cant integrate into society, in order for me to just be a laid back relaxed normal guy, thats when mmj saves me! long story short REVOLUTION=DISCREET+PORTABLE+POWERFUL+INDESTRUCTIBLE+INDESCRIBABLE!
  25. Peloton

    Peloton Vapes Hard

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    So guys and gals, whats the verdict on abv QWISO and other runny stuff? Does it just drop right in and absorb into the ceramic? How's it vape? This would really be great if it worked well for it.

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