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Thermovape Cera

Discussion in 'Portable Vaporizers' started by SameOldTim, Jan 24, 2013.

  1. Darb

    Darb Well-Known Member

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    I'm only a few hundred miles south of the Youkon......but yeah not many vaporists up here. Too many pee tests for/at work.
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  2. Dreamerr

    Dreamerr Always in a state of confusion and silliness♀

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    Peeeeeeeeeeeeeee tests in the middle of nowhere what will they think of next to harass people. Even in Ireland they are letting people drive drunk, not sure if it passed, if you live in the middle of nowhere. I swear we live in a dictatorship. Make alcohol and ciggs illegal then talk to me Mr. Government.
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  3. NoName

    NoName Well-Known Member

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    OF,

    "Hard to contain???" I was so happy that I grabbed my Dart and some PG to celebrate!!! F@ck!! That was 2 hours ago!! (LOL).

    NN

    Edit: Sorry, I somehow deleted "Down with pee tests!!!" (Obviously still too medicated).
  4. OF

    OF Well-Known Member

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    Yeah, believe it or not I don't think you're all that hard to contain relative to the other guy.....but you're why I said "at least one"......

    Hang in there, Bro. It's only about 25 miles and a few days away now....it's never been this close. You got Tim on it.

    It may have changed, but when Jim and I went to the Yukon there were no 'open container' laws. Driving down the highway (such as it was) sucking on a beer wasn't a sin. That's kinda hard to get your head around. Sorta like going to the Dispensary, being offered dozens of amazing strains of bud and concentrates (all tested of course) then given a cash register receipt.....or being able to buy with a Credit Card.

    The times, they are a changin'.

    OF
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  5. 2ndSight

    2ndSight Active Member

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    This may have been answered somewhere previous but i can't seem to find it, does anyone know whether the batteries will come fully charged or if we should be charging them prior to use? Not very important but, worth knowing. Thanks in advance. :drool:
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  6. Egzoset

    Egzoset Vaporist v2.0

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    Salutations OF,

    I'd like to read more about the unavailable part for one!

    :peace:
  7. OF

    OF Well-Known Member

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    They should be charged, but it's always wise to charge them first and be sure. If they're charged it won't take but a few minutes (which you can pass admiring your new vape.....).

    If you can't restrain yourself, put one on charge, use the other for a few hits then switch off. That has the least chance of killing a battery the first day.

    Good luck.

    OF
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  8. NoName

    NoName Well-Known Member

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    2nd,

    I've often received batts pretty close to fully charged but usually check and 'top them off' before use. I think working with a 'known' good and fully charged battery will also help you in 'testing' a 'new' Vape. Best of luck when it arrives.

    NN
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  9. Vapzilla

    Vapzilla Well-Known Member

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    With the freezing cold temps out there, I'd let everything come up to room temperature and then drop them on the charger.
    I know, but whats another few of hours.
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  10. 2ndSight

    2ndSight Active Member

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    Great advice, thank you gentlemen!
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  11. OF

    OF Well-Known Member

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    You want to consider internal resistance, Rth. The Thevenin Resistance of the source. You can also analyze the circuit in Norton (current) terms, but most guys have an easier time with Tevenin (voltage). The resistance is the same in both cases, just one uses a pure voltage source in series with it, Norton uses and ideal current source in parallel.

    In 'second order approximation' our battery is an ideal source (never sags) in series with Rth (which causes the sag and heating).

    Ready for the teat?

    Indeed so. What's a few more hours when one is looking forward to a lifetime of happiness together.......

    OF
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  12. Bluntcrush

    Bluntcrush Director of Vapor Research Labs™

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    Cera makes the ultimate "mail order bride" if I am following you correctly OF...
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  13. Czechyourhead

    Czechyourhead Well-Known Member

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    Yes, please! Send them to their new homes..

    :mmmm:
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  14. Egzoset

    Egzoset Vaporist v2.0

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    Hi again OF,

    Well, i'm just more curious about what's in the Cera's own design which addresses any eventual failure modes in a battery, even if those appear to be most unlikely to happen.

    My guess is you meant to type "treat"! If that's so then here's my short-version answer: it will depend, of course.

    It depends because i feel the manufacturer has a thick sturdy casing in his hands which might limit danger when compared to ordinary plastic shells, etc., but i don't sense much echoe in related posts and this makes me wonder. If it's that strong a material then why isn't the company a lot more proud about it, so to speak? Maybe i simply need to replenish my canabinoïd receptors but if that were me i'd have gone bold about it quite a while ago - unless the recent departure of an important member of the team is reason to render me even more paranoïd!...

    Has there been a dispute over safety issues related to the battery, for example?... :huh:

    If not then the Cera's going to be a winner, IMHO. No matter if i get one myself or not. Compared to the MLFB and siblings i'd choose the Cera as a result of such fears i've expressed here and before as well, despite the additional cost.

    I'm hoping my intent is clearer now. Thank you.

    :peace:
  15. xclarryx

    xclarryx Active Member

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    so being totally honest, i went ahead and placed my pre-order yesterday without really being 100% sure about what the situation is with the switches on the unit that i will receive. yep putting that much faith into the cera. :bowdown:

    my interpretation is that the unit will ship with a button on the bottom that must be held down while in use, and a pin that must be pulled out to 'allow' the bottom switch to turn on and off, how far off am i?

    and also is my memory right when i think i saw some posts a while back about thermovape will ship me a new switch that operates differently once they get them in stock or something?
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  16. PB88123

    PB88123 Vaporist

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    Correct and correct.

    You will receive a latching switch so you won't have to hold anything. Lets hope the engineers are on that.
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  17. OF

    OF Well-Known Member

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    No, I meant 'test'. But you're clearly not ready, seems you weren't even paying attention to Thevenin and Norton.......

    No abnormal dangers are presented by Cera I know of. In the very unlikely even of venting the gas escapes out the big holes in the top.

    No, I'm not sure what your intent was, but that's not important, if you're happy so am I.

    OF
  18. Medical Mark

    Medical Mark Well-Known Member

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    Well OF if you were going up the dempster then you were well on the way to my house then, you had sme food at the corner by Dawson then went up to tombstone windy flats oglivee mountains range to the arctic circle. Fort McPherson, arctic red, the inuvik that's where I lived for half my life.
    The dumpster ha awesome OF small world. See the wild horses by tombstone? Well anyway that's so cool up the dempster highway nice so you know what driving a rugged ass road is like ha ha the farthest highway north in the world, o in the winter take the I road to tukoyuktuk still a 180 km form inuvik.
    Wow so cool man that makes me laugh.
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  19. xclarryx

    xclarryx Active Member

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    the latching switch will be the one on the bottom, right? the button will basically look the same except stay pressed on?
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  20. Medical Mark

    Medical Mark Well-Known Member

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    Well I was hoping to get my notification today but nothing so uncheck for getting your hopes up for nothing this is very stressful I must say I thought for sure they would be at nov 19 already lol counting down the days to she comes.
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  21. iamn3ko

    iamn3ko Well-Known Member

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    Question, and I feel like its been asked.

    I think actually asked it possibly, but I tried to look and can't find it anywhere

    So forgive me if I have.

    Does the Cera run full power til it dies? Or run and gradually decrease power as it dies?


    I'd assume if it worked that way battery life would be shorter? Running full power til it's gone...


    I'm just guessing here...
  22. PB88123

    PB88123 Vaporist

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    Correct. When you turn the Cera on with the latching switch it won't be flush and instead be pushed in. Here is an image of it when it is off.

    [​IMG]
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  23. Egzoset

    Egzoset Vaporist v2.0

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    It IS important but it seems my timing is wrong.

    :peace:
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  24. OF

    OF Well-Known Member

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    No. We missed the horses, but almost got carried off by the Ravens up there. Huge.

    Quite a road, for sure, like I said they were making it when we were there. Funny from about Prince George on almost everyone we met perked right up when we said we were going to the Arctic Circle. They'd grin and say 'I always wanted to do that too, too bad it's so far....you know they have a sign right there by the road you can get your picture taken right next to it to prove it to your friends. No such sign, of course, no such road at the time. Dozens of experts to the South not withstanding.

    It's a small world for sure. We met a bar maid (go figure....) in Carmacks (half way up the Alcan, where it crosses the river....).....from Berkeley. Most of the way to the end of the world and I meet a woman from where I started. Years later I did a couple of tours putting a Cyclotron in a hospital in Saudi Arabia....ran smack dab into the (future) operator waiting for delivery. He was from (you guessed it) Berkeley. Half way around the world, 200 miles into the desert and you meet a guy from home.

    Yes, basically. It 'runs down' in voltage a bit but it goes as hard as it can when the switch is down. Given the nature of convection you don't notice much until it tanks, in oil carts I can't keep them on long enough to tell.....

    Cool. Feel free to revisit it when ever you want......

    OF
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  25. Vapzilla

    Vapzilla Well-Known Member

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    Hey OF,
    Will the batteries from the flashvape work in the cera?
    They our Valence Saphion 3.2volt, IFR-18650EC.
    No mah rating listed on them.
    My guess is you've already tried them?
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