Thermovape Cera

Glad to hear that I've got the exact same batteries on hand just waiting for their new home in the cera.

Kevin,

Thanks, a nice call. I've ordered batts from these guys in the past and they are reliable and fast. Went back through old emails, I ordered some batts on 1/31/13; order fulfilled same day (they are in Fl) and batts received 4 days later 2/4/13 in Ca. BTW, all my batts came only 50% charged - so have the chargers ready everyone!

NN

i feel that we haven't had enough cera porn i would live to see an unboxing or an in depth review with a lot of pics i wont have one for at least 6 weeks probably longer so someone please help?

User videos are reviews in a way. Real-time use. It sells itself or it doesn't.

I wasn't doubting the performance of the unit OF, the guy's who are in possession of these things have testified to that. Admittedly some have had initial problems...but I believe that was more technique than anything and not the unit.

I'm not fault finding as you may think...merely asking an honest question about the thermal sleeves and the heat radiated from the mouthpiece that owners/posters have reported and I can never remember questioning your honesty so I don't know where that has came from ?

Don't you worry...a video is coming...of epic proportions. Just might take a few weeks

Please keep us posted about this, there are so many batteries out there and so many people using different kinds that its been hard for me to make a desicion on which one to go with, but what you have described with these sounds perfect.

I believe Tim mentioned to be careful with which battery we choose due to the fact that some are poorly made and there's a risk of the breaking or w/e. I see these are Panasonics though so it might not be a concern but would you say they are well made?

Lastly has anyone who ordered a Titanium version of the Cera received theirs yet? Have any been shipped? I know we have to be patient but aghhhhhh! Lol

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That's great news, thanks for sharing. If you don't mind me asking, when did you place your order? How do you like the non latching switch for EO?

Nov 7. I have no issues with the non-latching switch for EO. I'm not sure I'd need latching for EO. The LL on the other hand....

The first 3 bowls or so in LL (bubble mixed with flowers), I was getting decent hits, some borderline clouds. (Using a a small water piece) After that I've had issues getting much vapor. Pretty sure I'm using the same technique. LL cart does not seem to be getting hot enough, also seems to be getting hotter near the switch. I've varied between tight/loose pack. Less to no bubble..etc..There is a color change to the ABV, but not as dark as the first few rounds. I need to mention that its a SS LL in a TI Cera, not sure if this has any effect. I've tried switching fresh batteries (2250 mah from TET). I've tried the extra o-ring on the LL cart.

I'm waiting for my buddy to pick up his SS LL Cera, so I can compare the carts.

Hey Czechyourhead,

I'm in Denver and should get mine soon too...lets have a Cera threesome...haha. Think about it, three Cera's getting passed around a circle. Lovely

"Hotter near the switch"? While the heater 'not getting hot enough' might be subjective or caused by a host of problems, heating in the switch is a very bad sign. One that likely won't improve over time......

It's hotter at the switch than above it (say mid battery)? That is there's no chance heat is being conducted down from the bowl area?

Which switch do you have, the domed or flat one?

TIA

OF

Does anyone know that they won't be providing latching switches for free after TET receives them?

Only

Only original preorder customers will get a free latching switch. You purchased too late to get a free latching switch.

Flat switch. Its hotter near the switch than mid battery. I am holding the Cera upside down when using with the water pipe, though I keep it upright for at least 30 sec during warm up. Its warmer close to where the ceramic and metal meet. Not so much the actual switch. The cart does heat up, and glow. Just not vaping as well as the initial 3 or so loads.

I'm going to iso and boil the cart. I may have clogged the air flow.

I suppose I am too late because preorders started in Nov/Dec? Is that why? How come they e-mailed me this?

That's not sounding like a loss in the switch (which would warm the switch body from the inside out) but rather from the bond between the ring and the copper strip up the wall. This too is not a good thing but may in fact not degrade further so you might choose to just keep an eye on it for now. However, it's heat where we don't want it rather than in the core where we do.

Some modest heating is to be expected, I was able to measure it in fact, but it's a matter of degrees you see (sorry, you don't get many straight lines around here you know.....).

AFAIK all units are checked for losses here prior to shipment (we discussed how to do that a while back) but that's doesn't take care of situations like this where it degrades later.

Repair probably calls for stripping the tube down and then rebuilding it in the usual two stages (bottom ring/strap assembly installed followed by replacing the socket plate and retaining screws.

Tough call, if it were mine and stable I'd probably hold off on sending it in if it was otherwise working OK. Minor self heating (like in the battery) is going to be a fact of life at the power levels we're working at, we can afford to loose a little but not a lot IMO.

OF

Which 18650 batteries last longer, 2250 mah or 3400 mah?

i think on TETs blog a few days ago they said they're not going to be offering a latching switch at all now?

and mango, the 3400mah. the higher the number, the bigger the battery, thats a good rule of thumb. however i think there is a whole nother science to batteries that i have no knowledge about whatsoever that could say otherwise.

"The reason behind this is from the reports of our beta testers saying that their Cera gets very hot when left on for excessive amounts of time. To ensure safety we will no longer offer a latching switch."

Must be incase someone leaves it on accidentally and 10 minutes later grabs it near the top and burns their hand.

Looks like one must create their own latching switch now.

Also,

Replacement Cera mouth pieces are now $29.99

http://thermovape.force.com/IdaProductDetail?id=01t50000001zGqhAAE

No signs of the silicone sleeves yet.

3400

Keep in mind the higher mah batteries will also heat up a little slower. Here's a quote from OF on two 2250 batteries vs one 3400:

No, not really, I think. When you do this you can dump the load of oil (I haven't personally....yet....but two of the guys I loaned my Beta unit (with latching switch) used it to leave the unit on a total of 3 times now. There testing seems conclusive. One guy was lucky both times he did it and it only dumped the oil on the kitchen counter and some other easy to clean up place he didn't name. The other fellow trashed a fabric chair he 'overmedicated' in.

With the long battery life it seems if you don't draw on it for a long time stuff can run out....which makes sense I think?

I've had 3 accidents now myself. Twice I set it down with the slide switch (when it was in) off only to have it turn on again laying in it's carry case. Since I was next to it I smelled it both times. The other time I was actually picking the unit up again and put it all back together quickly with an empty cart (but without the safety pin....I was in a rush.....). A minute or so later we opened it up for another reason to my embarrassment, a solid lesson on the value of the safety pin with a latching switch......

All in all, I think latching switches are a plus, but not without risks. Pumping an expensive load of oil out onto the furnature is not as bad as a fire, but some might rank it up there.....and could lead so some interesting confrontations?

OF

I agree OF with the EO cart but how bout the LL cart. From what was said it isn't the easiest or at least most comfortable thing to hold the switch on the LL since your sessions are inherently longer. Also what is all this stuff with the mouth piece getting to hot. I had thought Noah said it does get warm but not hot as long as you aren't running it I believe it was ten minutes or more. I also believe he said you can just take it off to cool it quickly and carry on. Can you please clear this up since I don't really remember. I have not discounted getting one just yet. Also from the tester reviews so far it looks like two loads on a battery and those loads are small. Is this the case as well?

For those who have tested can you compare the load size say to the solo which has a small load size as well?

TIA

You have got to be kidding me? This was posted on their blog on Feb.12th!
Did any pre-order customers get a email or notice of this? I sure didn't!
I wonder when they're going to let me know?

I'm only getting the LL and now after all the delays, changes and patiently waiting I don't know if I can swallow spending $300.00 and having to shove a piece of tin foil in it, or jerry rigging something, to make it work. Having to hold that switch on the whole time just doesn't seem to practical.

This has been a never ending switch fiasco for the last 2 months.
I'm torn on what I'm going to do.