yup, sorry, bad context. what i meant to say was they are doing an herb only 3.7v version. for the omicron or persei at 3.7v not to offend, but it happens both ways. OF talks about the DART in other companies threads. you guys do what you each do different. comparisons is what it's all about, specially for those looking to drop the amount you both charge. my two cents. take it as you will EDiT - and you didn't say anything when solo comparisons where going on.