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Thermovape Cera (Original thread, closed because of chaos)

Discussion in 'Portable Vaporizers' started by SameOldTim, Nov 1, 2012.

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  1. jambandphan03

    jambandphan03 Vapor Goddess

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    it's 4:20a y'all!! :freak:
     
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  2. PB88123

    PB88123 Vaporist

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    Top of the page seems like a good place to put the Cera Oil Vape first video. The next big thing is here. Start at 4:45 for the vapor.

     
  3. ThermoVape

    ThermoVape Vaporizer Manufacturer Manufacturer

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    It is far more efficient then the Revolution. It will work better with a smaller load then the Revolution does. That is why we d/c'd the Rev.

    The Cera Essential Oil Cart really does not care if you load it light or heavy. Anything anyone ever liked about the Revolution is improved in the Cera Essential Oil cart in terms of vapor purity, density, flavor, and being smooth cool and non-irritating.

    You can run it upside down. Sealed Interface. Nothings perfect but we have made a serious effort to make an oil vape that will not leak under routine use. You can run it flat out, upside dow.

    Glad you are enjoying the gear Jam, the nice thing to know. Battery technology will keep getting better. the T1 vape, or Cera of today is not the same vaporizer that you will be using in 5 years (even though it will be the same vaporizer you bought this year) because the battery technology will be so much better in terms of capacity and discharge performance. This is why we like removable internal batteries. The hardware, the mechanical tech of metal, ceramic, etc. timeless.

    Thank you for your support Jam. You Convince tim to dress up like Santa for the T.E.T. holiday party and we start talking.... (this s what he gets for taking a break from the forum..)

    Cheers,

    Noah
     
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  4. jambandphan03

    jambandphan03 Vapor Goddess

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    :lol: You got a deal!! HoHoHo!

    Thanks for the fast reply on the questions. Working overtime. :whip:heya!

    Bluntcrush, these oil vids should be putting a huge smile on your face. :freak:
     
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  5. BLAZING OG

    BLAZING OG Vaping is a way of life!

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    Iam sold lol lol
     
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  6. ThermoVape

    ThermoVape Vaporizer Manufacturer Manufacturer

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    Any time Jam.

    Here is the requested Cera Loose Leaf Video - So this is not my technique, but my experience was a very nice, potent, tasty blue vapor. I am of course, totally biased.



    I also forgot to mention that both the Cera Essential Oil Cartridge and the Cera Liquid Vape Cartridge can accept a 510 mouthpiece or 510 accesories like the Revolution or T1 glass adapters, moisture conditioners, Pure flow/Smooth Flow, and most 510 compatible mouthpieces.

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    Looks pretty nice to IMO.


    Cheers.

    Noah
     
  7. jambandphan03

    jambandphan03 Vapor Goddess

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    any combusting with the loose leaf yet??
     
  8. ThermoVape

    ThermoVape Vaporizer Manufacturer Manufacturer

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    Don't think that it going to happen. I have tried, as hard as I can to get the Cera LL to combust... not once.
     
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  9. Darb

    Darb Well-Known Member

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    Hey Noah,

    You mentioned in the oil cart video that the insides of the essential oil Cera are tuned differently than the insides of the ecig Cera.
    Are the insides of the essential oil and loose leaf Cera also different?
    If so, how?

    You also mentioned the the top piece of the Cera is now stainless or titanium rather than ceramic.
    Are all models like this or is it an option?
     
  10. ThermoVape

    ThermoVape Vaporizer Manufacturer Manufacturer

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    Yes, they are very different. The Cera for Essential Oil and the Cera for Glycerol Liquid LOOK identical, however the wattage and some other important tuning differences exist on the inside. The Cera Cartridge for Essential oil AND for Glycerol Liquid are available in either Stainless Steel OR Titanium.

    Very different applications. The Cera Loose Leaf is a Convection vaporizer, the cartridge is designed to heat air, and heat it rapidly to a range of temperatures to release the volatile compounds in the botanical in the form of a oil vapor.

    The Cera for Esential Oil and the Cera Cartridge for Glycerol are designed to vaporize a fluid, so they are built to deliver a "fuel (oil) and air" mixture to be brought from that tate of atomization to the phase state transition to vapor.

    Both of these are well studied harm reduction models, and they are all forms of vaporization, but the methodology, and technology is different. It will take a video to show the internal differences. I go through the external differences and switching the Cera from one cartridge to another in the cera Essential oil Video #2 that Anthony is working on right now. It is extensive and will answer some of your questions perhaps better then I have in this post.

    I think I mispoke or we got our wires crossed somewhere. You can use the Cera Cartridge for Essential oil or the Cera Cartridge for Glyceral WHITHOUT the top cap and moupiece by using a 510 compatible mouthpiece (not included) in the filling well of the cartridge.

    This is just a nice added feature that gives some backwards compatibility for some of our 510 accessories, and other 510 mouthpieces available on the market that people enjoy using.

    Also if we decide, or someone else make a 510 (common e-cig thread pattern) or 601 (Omicron, older e-cig thread pattern) adapter to go to/from our standard 3/8" thread then the ability to use a standard mouthpiece will be useful if our carts end up getting used on other power platforms.

    We are big into modularity, and doing our best to build a device that will continue to be useful and fun to own over the years. This feature is an example of that type of design philosophy.

    Cheers,

    Noah
     
  11. Darb

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    Thanks.
    I understand that the carts are different.
    I must have misunderstood you. I thought you had said that there were different Cera models for ecig and essential oil. (The power unit itself, not the cart)
     
  12. ThermoVape

    ThermoVape Vaporizer Manufacturer Manufacturer

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    Sorry, nope. Only the cartridges are different. Everything else is the same. :)
     
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  13. smokum

    smokum I am who I am and your approval isn't needed!

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    Sweet Jebus !!!! That EO cart demo vid has me squirming in my seat :tup: I tell ya, you must be an aqualung for sure because if I hit dabs with that vapor volume I'd surely have pulled a whitey, coughed my brains out, or just passed out :ko: and I'm no spring chicken to oils ;)

    1) Can the EO cart accept and produce well with any stability of oils ? such as shatter, taffy, and/or goop ?

    2) I'd love to see that EO producing through a water device

    3) Still anxiously awaiting the e-liquid demo

    4) I mentioned this earlier but didn't get any response with my thoughts: Will there be an option to order the 'Whole Enchilada Kit' ?? I ask because it will make selecting the needs and wants of EVERYTHING with a simple selection, as well as (since I'm in Canada and hate the shipping/duty/customs dealings) would like to order all at once and ensure receiving such.

    I'm really loving this device & anxiously await the opportunity to purchase !!!

    Perhaps whether you'll offer a 'whole enchilada kit' or not, you can consider offering a carrying/storage case to handle it all in a safe secure carrier to purchase ??

    Keep up the great work !! Even though I must say...... I can hardly wait to see some vid demo's from a 'NORMAL' human being :D
     
  14. GReYAReA

    GReYAReA Amid The Vapors...

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    Looks amazing !! Glad I have one on pre-order.

    Quick question though. With the Always-On switch, is there any way to control the oil for quick hits, without it streaming off too much excess vapor?
     
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  15. ThermoVape

    ThermoVape Vaporizer Manufacturer Manufacturer

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    Cheers, density, not temperature is the key on that one. One dab always make me hack... The Cera EO is designed to delivery density, an intensity of density, however our goal is to do it without having the vapor be irritating. It is a serious delivery system IMO. I would strongly caution against underestimating the Cera in this application.

    Yes, yes, yes. If it transitions to a liquid when heated, the Cera EO WLL transition it to vapor, all day, every day. The lower purity stuff should go very well in the Cera LL.

    That has been shot. Cera EO video 2 is already being edited. I'm pretty sure you have not seen anything like it. :D

    Already shot as well, but behind the Cero EO Video 2.

    You already can. As soon as you get to any of the Cera product pages, just select the accesories avialble on the right. Get the additional cartridges, extra batteriers, anything we are currently offering with the Cera is available right on the Cera produt page. We have made every effort to allow folks to build their kit just how they want. The whole enchilada is there for you! At least for the moment. Pre-sale is picking up... if it is for sale ont he site then that means we paln onshipping it out in advance of the holiday.

    Many very nice cigar cases fit this bill very well. We currently do not have a case in the works. We would want to do something with some type of local/American craftsmen/women maybe in a renewable wood like bamboo. Slick little clamshell case, Neodymium closure... just thinking out loud. that would be the way we would be interested in approaching the storage case/ otherwise we would argue the people here do a better job then we do finding innovative storage and carry solutions.

    Well, how much confidence would we inspire if the guy running the vape factory cannot blow a cloud?

    I take my work seriously, seriously.

    Cheers,

    Noah
     
  16. Tweek

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    Tim, dressing as Santa is an essential part of a mans life. Everybody has one of those "Remember the time I dressed up as Santa" moments. I encourage you to consider adding such an accomplishment to your bucket list.

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  17. ThermoVape

    ThermoVape Vaporizer Manufacturer Manufacturer

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    Short answer is yes. The switch is super easy to kick on and off. If the Cera Essential Oil vape is on... it is making vapor, quickly kick it off and immediately the vapor stops.

    Quick hit technique. No warm up needed 1-5 seconds max, hit the switch -> inhale -> hit the switch or hit it a few seconds before you are done inhaling. I demo this technique several times int he next Cera video. We'll have that up later today. Our video editing department is currently passed out at his workstation (never left yesterday).

    Cheers,

    Noah
     
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  18. jambandphan03

    jambandphan03 Vapor Goddess

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    This vape is getting better all the time. I think I may have been a bit too naughty for Santa to stop by this year, but who knows, if Tim were to don the Santa suit... and spread some extra cheer... wink wink...knudge knudge... Ok, waking up at 3:30a makes me a little extra loopy :D Glad there are cool vids to keep me entertained.

    off to try to get a few more winks... thanks for the all nighter guys!
     
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  19. JCat

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    It does look nice ... I was initially ruling this one out due to chamber size (I thought I had read it was <.1g / load), but noticed that you can put in as much as .25g? I would say my avg load to be satisfied is between .15-.2 depending on strain and delivery. I find the INH004 chamber size very nice ... easily accommodates .2g.

    Would "normal" density, with "normal" grind, and "normal" moisture content herb fit .15-.2g easily in the chamber and deliver nice clouds? Vaped to completion quickly in a few minutes? If so ... then this might be a better option for me than I thought ...

    I'm also going out of country in March, but will be somewhere where cannabis is accepted so I will be able to get meds when there, but have been dreading having to resort to joints or buying a glass pipe for the week I'm there. Would I be able to bring this with me then just have to boil the stuff clean before packing to come back? I've been thinking my INH might work too ... just dispose of the capsules? The device itself would still have an odor though I imagine and could have some particles lodged down near the heating core so I'm not sure that's a good option either ...

    Hmmm ...
     
  20. ThermoVape

    ThermoVape Vaporizer Manufacturer Manufacturer

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    The Cera easily accommodates 0.2g as well. So I would not let that be the deal breaker.

    I will say yes, vaped to completion is a moving target. I would say that in 3-5 minutes you will get 4-7 good inhalations that for most are more then sufficient to a quick session. Cloud size can be dialed in pretty easily with technique.

    All the components of the Cera that are in contact with the material or vapor can be totally cleaned and sterilized by a number of methods, boiling being an easy option. We view this as the only truly travel friendly powered personal pocket friendly vaporizer. The ability to totally, easily, really get the device clean is pretty critical for international or even just airline travel.

    Is my vape really clean? Not something you want to be worried about going through airline security or customs. The Cera does not just get clean, it can get sterile, easily by a number of different methods. Piece of mind is nice.

    Another note. The Cera has an e-cig like option with the Glycerol cart which pretty much allows you to go vaping around woth your Cera a lot of places, swap out to the EO or LL cart and you are good to go.

    Okay, time for a combat nap, work starts on an hour (maybe two for me...)

    Cheers,

    Noah
     
  21. JCat

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    Flying in Country I'm ok (I'm in Canada and am a legal medical user here ...) ... I actually tested that out this summer and although I had to talk to an RCMP officer for a few minutes on the way back as they checked my dozen or so jars over, it really went ok.

    Now you've really got me thinking ... my wife would definitely question "Thermovape" on the credit card bill though :) ... which means I have to convince her and can't just buy it :(
     
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    Money in your piggy bank? Wow! You are new around here, aren't you?

    OF
     
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  23. smokum

    smokum I am who I am and your approval isn't needed!

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  24. Dreamerr

    Dreamerr Always in a state of confusion and silliness♀

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    I was just thinking the same thing. The people around here seem to get less sleep then I do. Very strange I say, very strange.

    Edit: Oil cart comment. I know nothing about oils so take it as is. I always thought oil was messy and don't use it just cause I haven't learned how to make it and no where to buy it for the moment. I laughed really hard when Anthony said it was no mess. To me it is soooooooooo messy. It was all caught on the spoon. You have to do magic tricks to actually get it in the chamber ect. I don't even want to know what you all had to do before. My friend sent me some of that goop stuff and I still have it over a year later cause I didn't know what to do with that mess. Just running through my mind so dumped it here to get rid of my thoughts.
     
  25. pakalolo

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    Thanks for the video. I liked the shout-out to me when you touched the bowl just after you had just finished.

    At least, I'm taking it as a shout-out. Don't spoil my illusion.
     
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