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The "Project" DIY Herbal Vaporizer

Discussion in 'DIY' started by Pipes, Mar 17, 2016.

  1. luke00978

    luke00978 Well-Known Member

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    yeh resistance is locked left it at room temp fitted then locked resistance... still reverts to watts after 1 or 2 sessions. just tried resetting everything after pulling the batteries will see how that goes. initial coil reading is .51 so seems in range
     
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  2. KeroZen

    KeroZen Chronic vapaholic

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    By session, you mean entire back to back bowls?
     
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  3. luke00978

    luke00978 Well-Known Member

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    yes session = full bowl (what i mean here anyway)

    edit: as soon as i posted this it reverted to watts! ill try repositioning the washers now
     
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  4. Pipes

    Pipes Addicted DIY Enthusiast Accessory Maker

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    @KeroZen, the collar is too wide to go through the hole. Was snipping it off and then started to just install flipped over so lip is towards the small washer.
    @luke00978 , only move a tid at a time, centering as best you can. You will likely overshoot a couple times and have mod say it's shorted. You will need to remove batteries after each attempt as the mod thinks it's the same atomizer and may continue to complain. Can be frustrating going down that rabbit hole. If you move washers to a better looking center position, and still not shorted, you'll need to test drive to see if solved. Could be a lengthy experience. But worth it in the end.
     
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  5. luke00978

    luke00978 Well-Known Member

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    thanks for the help pipes and zen, ive repositioned the washers, no atomizer short but its doing the same thing, you think the fact that it works for a couple of sessions means it could be a firmware issue? obviously i know the only way to verify is to try with a different mod!
     
  6. Pipes

    Pipes Addicted DIY Enthusiast Accessory Maker

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    It's possible as never had anyone give feedback for that mod. You could try and play with the TCR value. You're right that the firmware can do this, as it's limits or tolerances are all set there.
     
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  7. luke00978

    luke00978 Well-Known Member

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    cheers pipes, ill have a mess about with it and maybe try it on one of my brothers mods at sunday dinner. will let yous know when i get it stable ;-)
     
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  8. luke00978

    luke00978 Well-Known Member

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    had a long fun night of testing coil building and vaping (super fun for the girlfriend lol) anyway i got a couple of nice builds and they did the same thing , you can session then as soon as the device goes cold if you try again it will kick straight to watts as soon as it reaches set temp, pull the batteries and its back with the same locked ohm working fine, fuck knows but im thinking avoid the Ikonn 220
     
  9. Pipes

    Pipes Addicted DIY Enthusiast Accessory Maker

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    Did you try changing the TCR with extreme changes? Like 50 or so. Really sounds like the Mod thinks it's not TC material and assumes it's Kanthal.
    Keep in mind that lowering the TCR will cause you to go higher in temperature values to achieve vapor. You are trying to go low enough to stop the Mod from mis-interpreting the material, but high enough that you can get good vapor under the 600 degree max.
    All else false, run in watts adjusted to your technique. If you're a slow sipper, around 15 W, or up to 25 W if drawing faster. The coil distance to herb comes into more obvious play too.
    :science:
     
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  10. luke00978

    luke00978 Well-Known Member

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    nothing keeps it on tcr just ordered a used reuleaux 200s for further testing when it arrives
     
  11. goodpunk6

    goodpunk6 Well-Known Member

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    @Pipes are the erasers any closer?
     
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  12. luke00978

    luke00978 Well-Known Member

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    Reuleaux 200s seems to have solved the issues...avoid the ikonn 220 for the project and any thing TCR related I would say
     
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  13. grokit

    grokit well-worn member

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    I've been messing around with my new shitfucker, and having success at 22.5 watts with an istick pico 75w. I tried an istick pico 40w before that without any real success, but it could've been my settings.

    It's a little fragile, definitely for around the house but as a proof of concept I like it a lot :tup:

    :sherlock:
     
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  14. goodpunk6

    goodpunk6 Well-Known Member

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    I was wondering about this when it comes to the Pure SF. Seems like the eraser is/should be better outside of the home.
     
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  15. luke00978

    luke00978 Well-Known Member

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    yeh i would get an eraser for outdoor use, i can see me smashing the sf. also pipes how did you construct this mouthpiece, is it safe to soak in iso with the shrink sleeve?

    also been using the sf all day and hasn’t once bounced back to watts, this 3 battery mod is a heavy beast though
     
  16. Pipes

    Pipes Addicted DIY Enthusiast Accessory Maker

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    The mouthpiece will come apart. It's a standard 510 tip and I added the shrink wrap to aid pulling out of the joint. Just be careful as glass will be glass. ISO or even soapy water and a Qtip will suffice.

    :science:
     
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  17. Hjalmark

    Hjalmark Well-Known Member

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    @Pipes can you become my cool uncle?
     
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  18. luke00978

    luke00978 Well-Known Member

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    ok so i was right about the sf, just the mouthpiece rolling from my laptop onto the table caused a crack in the end of the mouthpeice, luckily ill be able to grind off the flare and it will be fine as that’s where the crack is, in the mean time, with the correct o-rings anything is possible!

    [​IMG]
     
  19. KeroZen

    KeroZen Chronic vapaholic

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    Yes again I don't think it's the way to go for the mouthpiece. For sure having a compatible drip tip is nice but it weakens the GonG joint too much. @Pipes you should just cut your male joint blanks to length and be done with it, way more resistant and less work for you.

    One thing that Dave from MistVape does with his stems that is very nice is to enlarge part of the tip ID. I don't know how he does that but it allows to make the screen stay in place by creating a stopper. You can't push it all the way down and it also makes the bowl slightly larger due to the increased diameter.
     
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  20. Pavelhonner

    Pavelhonner New Member

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    Unfortunately it is not possible to turn Check to No on my rx23. Main screen reads
    .530ohm. TCR locked at .530. Where could be the problem?
     
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  21. KeroZen

    KeroZen Chronic vapaholic

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    Switch to ArticFox maybe?
     
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  22. Pavelhonner

    Pavelhonner New Member

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    Planning to move on the evic vtc dual or cuboid. Any advice or recommendations (in terms of issues etc.)?
     
  23. Hippie

    Hippie Member

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    The cuboid had issues with the 510 connector
    I dunno if they've fixed it with later revisions or not
    The spring in the centre pin on one of my units is quite temperamental and picky about which atomisers it'll make a good connection with after 12months of use, and I'm not really one for changing atomisers very often.
    The newer models from joyetech have a better 510 connector, I'd say. I recently bought an Evic primo se which looks to have a much better 510 connector arrangement.
     
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  25. KeroZen

    KeroZen Chronic vapaholic

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    From what I gathered, Joyetech / Eleaf / Wismec are basically the same company, or the former is the OEM/ODM for the latter. But they all share the same chipset and while they have a great value for their price, you still get what you pay for and they are entry level only. Stock TC is just horrible and you can improve them with custom firmware but it's not the panacea either.

    At the moment the 3 best chipsets on the market are the HohmTech FSK (as found in Hohm Wrecker G2 and Hohm Slice), the Evolv DNA75/75C and DNA250, and the YiHi SX350J-v2 and SX550J. They are the best for TC with higher resolution ADC and better components. The software on the FSK is impressive, they claim to be able to TC basically anything, including Kanthal, Nichrome and "Ceramic infused" even if I have no clue what that last one is! :p

    These devices cost a premium (in comparison) but you can get some DNA75 for relatively cheap nowadays like this one (Jac Vapour SERIES B DNA 75W) >> http://www.jacvapour.com/evolv-dna75

    PS: and when you compute the total, Project + good mod, you are still under most other vapes in the portable on-demand convection category.
     
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