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The "Project" DIY Herbal Vaporizer

Discussion in 'DIY' started by Pipes, Mar 17, 2016.

  1. KeroZen

    KeroZen Chronic vapaholic

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    If you want to test sleeves, get the "Eraser" version. The "Pure SF" (I'm ok to settle on that middle ground...) lacks the SS tube which is required to insulate the sleeve from the coil (and also because it bounces some of the heat back, being a semi-reflective shiny surface)

    Unless you planned on making a sleeve around the glass?

    @phattpiggie: I'm notoriously not a fan of silicone, it appears that I must be extra-sensitive to it somehow... Another advantage of the "Pure SF" is that thanks to the GonG connection there are no o-rings on the downstream vapor path.

    I consider it to be a genuine full glass and SS vapor path. The only step further would be to isolate the heater (ex: halogen bulb) and use a stem with integrated glass screen or pinch (I think @DDave makes some?)

    PS: "Pure SF" could well be "pure science fiction" for those not in the know... :p
     
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  2. ShallowJam

    ShallowJam New Member

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    Thats the exact debate I'm having in my head right now. I think the pure sf could be really cool with a wood sleeve (for protection from heat, aesthetics, and maybe even some insulation to keep good temps) but am not sure how fragile it would be. Of course the sleeve would need to have a tight fit and so I'm tempted to go with the eraser version for that reason, but don't want to miss out on a superior experience with the all glass...
    I'm definitely not a big fan of the eraser part of the eraser so it would get substituted for something else, but I can't decide between the two.
     
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  3. Xelatsok

    Xelatsok vapes tobacco modding the vapes

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    Let the Pure Science Force be with you.
     
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  4. Xelatsok

    Xelatsok vapes tobacco modding the vapes

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    13 bowls (stems) battery life, very nice.
    Next to test is Presa 100W with 26650 4500 mAh Brillipower and 18650 3000 mAh LG HG2 batteries.
     
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  5. oddjobold

    oddjobold Well-Known Member

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    This really interests me - but i know nothing about mod boxes as i dont vape e-juice.

    So got some questions if you dont mind.

    1) Already have a Milaana. Is it worth getting the project as well? How do they compare.

    2) There is the glass one - pure. The eraser (not sure what this is made out of) and the wooden one. Are they all available now?

    3) Does this work with a TC mod box? You just have to set the right resistance? Correct? I guess you could find this with a voltmeter?

    4) @Pipes do you ship internationally.

    5) Want the splinter when it comes out - so the side by side looks like a no go. Would like replacable batteries. Looking at an evic box. Is a 1 x 18650 box enough?

    6) Do the stems come with the project.

    Thanks for your answers in advance - its a bit tricky finding all the answers with 40+ pages of info.
     
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  6. fluffhead

    fluffhead Recovering Idealist

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    1) Imo, yes. I had the milaana as my daily driver until I got the project.

    2) The wooden one isn't available as far as I know, but the other two are. I prefer the eraser but some prefer the pure sf.

    3) Yes, you need a tc box mod. No you don't need a voltmeter. At least, I don't have one. Everything is done on the mod.

    4) Yes, he does. He ships from Canada.

    5) 1 x 18650 is enough, but I prefer my 2 battery cuboid for battery life. According to pipes, it more than doubles battery time.

    6) Yes, a stem comes with the project. However, I prefer using a glass arizer air stem.

    Also, I present to you all - the body that phatpiggie made for me. It is all from the same cocobolo blank, and he threw in the stem for me! The bottom piece is a square stem for my vc. I can't wait get this all!
    [​IMG]
     
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  7. phattpiggie

    phattpiggie Well-Known Member Accessory Maker

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  8. Xelatsok

    Xelatsok vapes tobacco modding the vapes

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    Presa 100W with 26650 4500 mAh Brillipower - same impressive 13 bowls.
    Presa 100W with 18650 3000 mAh LG HG2 - 10 bowls.

    So, according to @Pipes, we may expect some fantastiche 20-25 bowls with 2-batteries mod, like Predator 228. This is absolute record, more than 17-18 bowls some reported with Solo 2. Sure, the whole Predator + Eraser rig weights 320 g vs Mighty's 230 g. But the former may overrun the latter 2,5 - 3 times :hmm:
     
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  9. KeroZen

    KeroZen Chronic vapaholic

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    I gotta admit after seeing the above picture taken under proper lighting conditions that @phattpiggie's work is gorgeous. The OG can't compare heh!
     
  10. GreenHopper

    GreenHopper 20 going on 60

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    I'm definitely interested in a project mod but I'm holding out for the moment as I've hit my VAS limit for a little while.

    I know that when I get one I'll be hitting @phattpiggie for a custom wood setup.

    I'm wondering if a flat stove top coil would work rather than the SS wire which takes up quite a bit of vertical space?
     
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  11. Xelatsok

    Xelatsok vapes tobacco modding the vapes

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    May we use whole-wood stem, with the bowl made of wood?
    Is there any wood which can stand heat and doesn't smell?
    Glass stems are too "conductive" due to high thermal capacity. I am looking for stem material with low thermal capacity to increase the convection part to the most.
    Edit: I am OK with lesser bowl volume with wood, I understand that wood walls should be thick to be durable.
     
  12. fluffhead

    fluffhead Recovering Idealist

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    Quick question for all of you eraser heads:
    If you needed to pick one (non-expensive) box mod for the eraser which would you choose and why?
     
  13. KeroZen

    KeroZen Chronic vapaholic

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    For me that would be the one I reviewed in the previous page.
     
  14. Xelatsok

    Xelatsok vapes tobacco modding the vapes

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    I just bought Wismec Predator with double LG HG2 3000 mAh batteries. It is small, easy to operate due to large button and it charges batteries well itself. And I expect it to run 20-25 bowls from single charge, will see soon.
     
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  15. cjeee

    cjeee New Member

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    I REALLLYY want to try out this project but I wish there was a better HOW TO for noobs like me. Im very tech savey but I barely know anything about vape "Mods, tanks, atomizers". I would rather do this instead of buying a vape since i can swap out the batteries and ill probably save more and learn as well :)

    can someone pleaseeeeeeee help me?

    Thank you!
     
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  16. jane621

    jane621 Unapproved commercial account.

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    Amazing!
     
  17. Joaon

    Joaon Well-Known Member

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    Thanks for having wondering, I just tried to build a stove top coil, and now I see it's obvious! :tup:
    No sign of hot spot, extraction is pretty homogeneous, even at high temps.
    I tried it at 210°c, instant bubbler milk, golden brown ABV.

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    Now, I have to get an RX2/3, some VTC6, and the Project will become my main batterie/portable vaporizer !
     
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  18. fluffhead

    fluffhead Recovering Idealist

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    Do you have any tips on making a good stove top coil? Does it matter if the coil is touching itself? How long of a piece of wire do you use? Is it as simple as a piece of wire from the middle, spin it around a few times and connect the other end of the wire? Thanks, I have been interested in making one for a while but my double stove coils failed miserably.
     
  19. GreenHopper

    GreenHopper 20 going on 60

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    Glad it's working, I'm thinking of giving this a go. Does it save much vertical space?
     
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  20. E0x

    E0x Well-Known Member

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    @Joaon care to share what ohms end up the coil and what are you modbox setting , if you could add a pic of the coil mounted.

    thanks
     
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  21. Joaon

    Joaon Well-Known Member

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    I made the coil with the extra wire Pipes send with the Project, it doesn't touch itself (:razz:), and it is pretty difficult to build! Ahah!
    It took me near 30 min, and 3 trials!
    It ends down at .355Ω
    Box settings:
    TCR 170
    150-220°C
    40w
    Algo PID: P=650 I=80 D=13

    It save some space, but you'll have to cut down the 510-Ego adapter and the SS tube to shorten the whole thing ;)

    Imgur don't want my images, sorry
     
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  22. PPN

    PPN Fleurs&Vapeur

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    Actually I don't get a lot of time to spent on FC... so, sorry for all the posts I didn't liked....

    My Project is came back in my DD list as a water filtered use device only... and I can't believe how smooth is the vapor...it's one of the rarest vape I never cough with!

    My next plan (when more time avalaible) is to build a coil around a small piece of ceramic I got from another vape and to force the airflow to go through this heated ceramic. Is it better the wire to be directly in contact with the ceramic or not...?

    What is the better lenght of wire I need?

    Hi @oddjobold it was intimidating for me too (like the Hercules was also)... but it's easier than expected. Although be ready to deal with some issues due to user mistakes but don't gave up and you will be greatly rewarded by this vape when mastered .
     
  23. oddjobold

    oddjobold Well-Known Member

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    @PPN

    Picked up a second hand Evic VTC dual mod box.

    Also on the waiting list for the Pure project, and very excited about the Splinter when it comes out. I think 510 dry herb vapes will be a lot more popular in the near future.

    Shame there is a lot of rubbish chineese ones on the market at the moment.
     
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  24. b0

    b0 Cloudy...

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    If you want I can upload the pictures for you, will be interesting to share your set up :)

    Send me a PM and I will give you my email!
     
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  25. Pher

    Pher New Member

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    I'm sold! I registered just to find out how I can order one. Can someone please point me in the right direction or do I just message @Pipes? Thanks!
     
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