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The Persei Vaporizer for herbs and concentrates.

Discussion in 'Portable Vaporizers' started by THC SCIENTIFIC, Jan 13, 2012.

  1. OF

    OF Well-Known Member

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    Good thought. While the second batch might be flat tops, the original set would not be.

    Great! Good troubleshooting. There's a lot of useful techniques for such things, you just successfully used one of the better ones (substitution).

    Yes, I'd open a ticket at D9. And yes, you can (and should) use one socket in the dual top. When mine died, that's what I did while waiting for the replacement. BTW, mine came with an R in leading the serial number (will no longer match) and it doesn't line up with the logo....no big deal IMO.

    Thanks for the good news.

    OF
  2. ataxian

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    OF I could of stretched it out a bit more.
    Now 10mg per hit puts me in a COMA (self induced)
    I found the flavor super rich.

    The 2.4 carts are a different story.
    I have two loaded up.
    One is at over 475 hits and is still going. 1 1/2 grams.
    I might load more and see how much more I can get out of it?

    The other is at 305 or so hits and still working well. (Over 1 gram)
    I have loaded Crumbled, Brittle and some syrupy NITRO GOLD WAX.
    The NITRO GOLD is a bit tricky however I found a way to make it work.
    The Brittle gave me the best flavor so far and no headaches.

    I have 3 - 5.0 carts I haven't used yet.(lost the 1st one to PURE GOLD leakage)
    2.4 carts have been the easiest to master like you recommended.

    As soon as the HERCULES gets sorted out I will resume medical trials.

    It's great to have experts on here like you and Bob!
    I was going to give up until you led me down the right path.
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  3. OF

    OF Well-Known Member

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    I'm with you on heavy hits of oil. It sneaks up on me....

    The cart record seems spot on with my experience. 300 hits per gram is a good 'ball park estimate', thinner stuff seems to go faster (PG really goes fast), some of the shatters and the like seem to run weaker but longer. I don't think 1.5 grams is any time to be backing off if it's still running well. When I get down to the point they're starting to thin out I put .5 more in if it was normal up to that point. Eventually it fouls up with the junk in the oil that doesn't vape off the heater, when that happens if I can I'll vape off what's left, sometimes it gets reclaimed, but that always seems to come out stale tasting at least. I much prefer to keep an eye on production, keep it to half a gram at a time, and stop reloading when it's running slow before stalling out for lack of oil.

    Glad you got it sorted out, not at all sure about that experts part. Speaking for myself at least, I just paid attention to a lot of mistakes.......

    OF
  4. Bob Loblaw

    Bob Loblaw Astralnaut

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    no sweat, sorry for late reply.
    i'd say i'm waiting 20-30 on initial heat up. then i start slowly puffin', checking to see how thick the vape is. when the heat and density feel right in my mouth i take a nice fast deep inhale, click off the button and take a few more small sips to cool it, hold...... hold...... and exhale. my exhalations are usually thinner as i have absorbed a large amount of the oil. then, since the tank is already warm, it usually only takes 5-10 secs tops to get to temp. if i really want a big rip i just wait a sec or two more for it to get a little hotter and take a slower longer rip. repeat small sips at the end. am basically gonna take the first tank of an empty herc as a loss to the base heater. this thing is not for the thrifty or conservative. will keep ya updated on the volcano sponge. have one in a fresh herc. might shoot a vid tomorrow between making oil of inserting it into my original herc. thankfully i bought two (one for a friend) so i can experiment. great thing about D9 is i'll have a new one for him when this gets fixed
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  5. ataxian

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    I had all these different consistencies of wax to work with my HERCULES.
    While it is being sorted by the technical people at DELTA 9 I have been playing with the carts.
    I will load another 0.3 grams in my cart until it finally dies.
    I'm really pleased on how well the carts work!
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  6. Bob Loblaw

    Bob Loblaw Astralnaut

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    i have a wax heavy oil usually. means more cbd usually, but it also fouls the carts out quicker.
    i usually go to 2.5 grams per cart max. after that the flavor and performance suffers, if you have something really clean like pure gold then i am sure they can run at least twice that long. am glad i can help and that it is appreciated, but like OF says, it comes from paying an almost criminal amount of attention to a lot of data reported here, to our own experiences, from friends, etc. every failure is narrowing down the path to success. glad that our experiences shared can be of benefit to others as well. thankfully i am only tracking a few companies so it makes it a lot easier for me. OF if following a lot more products and helping a lot more that way, but i am glad to be of service in these small pockets that i can.

    as to reclaiming dead or fouled carts, yea if you have stuff left it definitely has a loss of flavor and color. if those things are important to your vaping experience i find that it, like abv oil is best suited for medibles. just add to coconut oil, cook at no higher than 325 TOPS and for no longer than 30 min. or so at that temp and you are in for a real "treat".
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  7. OF

    OF Well-Known Member

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    With ya there again. If you work within they're design range and are careful, they'll reward you over and over and over. I think most guys get into trouble two ways, they either try to run before they can walk, or try to push the cart too hard for bigger clouds. Like whipping the horse, you go a bit faster for a while but not for free.

    Women can be like that, too. Not the whipping part (unless by consenting adults...), but the general idea?

    Yeah, short life, but what a way to go. IMO high CBDs are worth a little higher cart costs. When you get down to it, for most of us the oil cost far exceeds cart costs.

    "An almost criminal amount of attention to a lot of the data reported here"? Bob, did you just say that? That's priceless! About sums it up. So much nicer than 'strange little techno geek with no real life'. I never did like that one very much......

    On a serious note, the "every failure is narrowing down the path to success" is spot on! That's what a lot of this stuff is. Like the Sherlock Holmes quote, "When you have eliminated all which is impossible, then whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth."

    Once again, it appears you're not just another pretty face, your famous portrait not withstanding.....

    OF
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  8. ataxian

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    "as to reclaiming dead or fouled carts, yea if you have stuff left it definitely has a loss of flavor and color. if those things are important to your vaping experience i find that it, like abv oil is best suited for medibles. just add to coconut oil, cook at no higher than 325 TOPS and for no longer than 30 min. or so at that temp and you are in for a real "treat".[/quote]"

    Bob what I do when a cart is tasting bad is trow it away. I don't cook with left overs.
    Pure fresh buds made into dairy free butter for gluten & dairy free brownies or chocolate chip cookies brings out the best flavor. I will have to try your method of reclaiming the oil and adding it to the coconut oil. Maybe the coconut is masking the flavor?
  9. ataxian

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    You guys give me inspiration! (OF & BOB) We need a reality show with you two.

    Its morning I know.
    Loaded more BRITTLE WAX in a cart and WOW! WOW! FLAVOR!

    The PERSEI is a power house!
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  10. Bob Loblaw

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    as to taste, do you cook w/ water in your butter to remove chlorophyll taste?
    if not, trust me, a little reclaim isn't gonna taste stronger than fresh buds.
    if you do, then it should be about on par as there is no more (or minute) chlorophyll in oil to mess up the flavor of the coco or butter. i like peanut butter personally, but i hate the flavor of weed in food and pb is a great masking agent (some guy i met once said that it's also great for non-tasty, but edible fungus).

    as to coco over butter, coconut is one of, if not the best cooking oil for absorbing thc. lots of data on the subject
  11. dankd420

    dankd420 Active Member

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    By this, do you mean basically you run enough oil through it which runs down into the heater and fills anywhere in there that will collect oil, and after that it works well?
  12. Bob Loblaw

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    yup, but don't unscrew anywhere except mouth and very bottom by persei head, otherwise oil runs down into threads if herc. gunking it up
  13. kindbeats

    kindbeats Give me the Jillybean shatter and nobody gets hurt

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    Hey Bob, have you figured out about how much oil the Hammer base is currently holding? I also have a second Herc that I am waiting to open. Trying to learn and make my mistakes on this first unit.
  14. BlueLite

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    Is there ever going to be an adapter to plug the Persei straight into the wall? I know i had heard talk of one for the omicron, possibly?
  15. nickzzzx

    nickzzzx Well-Known Member

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    That's the Core I think, G estimated one or two months a couple pages or so back.
  16. BlueLite

    BlueLite Member

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    Rockin'. All about it. I can wait for that.
  17. kindbeats

    kindbeats Give me the Jillybean shatter and nobody gets hurt

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    Well, I'm sad to say that my Hercules has died. It appears the Hammer has stopped heating up. :( Pretty bummed about it to say the least. Luckily, I had bought a second one off of an awesome member here at FC so I am still up and running but down one unit. G, should I open a ticket or should I deal with you directly?
  18. THC SCIENTIFIC

    THC SCIENTIFIC Black Gold Manufacturer

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    Yes please open a ticket.
  19. kindbeats

    kindbeats Give me the Jillybean shatter and nobody gets hurt

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    Consider it done.
  20. me2

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    hey kindbeats ya got pm
  21. dankd420

    dankd420 Active Member

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    Excellent information Bob. I have been perhaps too woried about the amout of oil within the device, scraping it up after a few uses to put back into the tank. I let the oil build up within the main heater core and it now delivers much larger, perhaps nail sized hits(i've never used a nail, but these are healthy, billowing clouds).

    DankD
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  22. mangok

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    Sorry for the newbie question but if im going to buy the hammer attachment does it go to 1200F or do I need to buy the other tip as well?
  23. Bob Loblaw

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    can't say for sure yet. would say at least .2, could be as much as volume is left inside the base. 1 fl ml equals 1 gm so i would say probably no more than that with all the wires or whatever is in there.
  24. kindbeats

    kindbeats Give me the Jillybean shatter and nobody gets hurt

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    The Hammer attachment is a ceramic heater that reaches 1200F and is able to be used with the normal Persei top or the Hammer Top (which has a click on/click off button).
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  25. nickzzzx

    nickzzzx Well-Known Member

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    Anybody dab straight from the hammer tip and hold it above a bowl for water filtration? I do this with my herb iron which has a similar ceramic element and it's awesome. Great taste and very easy as it heats up quickly. Only downside is a limited dabbing capacity.
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