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The Persei Vaporizer for herbs and concentrates.

Discussion in 'Portable Vaporizers' started by THC SCIENTIFIC, Jan 13, 2012.

  1. jpdnkstr

    jpdnkstr Well-Known Member

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    Refining my technique on herc (using earwax consistency extract), has increased efficiency 3x at least!
    You better have a chair close by for this (Hercules, of course)

    WOW!
  2. nickzzzx

    nickzzzx Well-Known Member

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    Please elaborate on your technique, I'm sure many would be interested. My defective Herc has very low vapor production, no clouds. :( (even after holding the button for over a minute with a fresh tank..)

    edit: luckily d9v has the best customer service and they are helping me get a working heater asap.
  3. tharealmclovin

    tharealmclovin Well-Known Member

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    20 second warm up, then pull as hard as possible. The outer shell should be getting warm by then.
  4. SlideOrDie

    SlideOrDie Well-Known Member

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    I'm compiling a list of cleaning instructions and some warnings for all of the new Hercules owners from what I've read so far in this thread.

    Please inform me if I have any incorrect information, or if something needs to be added.

    Since some people have encountered issues from boiling the bottom connector, outer sleeve and mouth piece, I figured an ISO soak, followed by a rinse in some very hot water might be a better idea.

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    1. Completely disassemble the Hercules.

    **DO NOT boil the bottom connector, outer sleeve or the mouth piece**

    2. Soak the bottom connector, outer sleeve and the mouth piece in 99% ISO for 5 minutes and then do a rinse in VERY HOT water.

    3. Put all of the remaining pieces into a stainless mesh strainer and soak in a pot of boiling water for 5 minutes.

    4. Once you've boiled the remaining pieces for 5 minutes, remove them and set with the bottom connector, outer sleeve and mouthpiece. Blow as much of the water out of all of the pieces and then let them sit to dry for 10-15 minutes.

    5. Reassemble your Hercules and dry fire for 30 seconds allowing it to cool down 1 minute. Repeat this process 5 times.

    Cleaning and break in are now complete. You are now ready to begin using your Hercules!

    NOTES:

    **Never load more then .2g-.3g of oil in the tank**

    **10-30 second warm up time for thicker oils and waxes - when you hear the sizzle be prepared for massive clouds**

    **Preheating your oils a little once they're in the tank but before loading the tank into the Hercules will drastically decrease warm up times**

    **Always continue to hit the Hercules for at least 10-20 seconds after your last hit to cool it down properly**

    **Never breathe into the Hercules**

    **The bottom connector is not completely sealed and the heating element needs to have a bit of movement so that it will not crack during heavy use**
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  5. JoeKickass

    JoeKickass Well-Known Member

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    I never understood the appeal of boiling, I tried it with TV products and while it does seem to get them mostly clean, it also a pain and makes the pot incredibly sticky/resiny. I usually just rinse after the iso wash...
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  6. kindbeats

    kindbeats Give me the Jillybean shatter and nobody gets hurt

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    Thanks for this! It'll definitely be helpful when my Hercules arrives (hoping tomorrow!).
  7. tharealmclovin

    tharealmclovin Well-Known Member

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    10-30 second warm up for thick oils and wax.

    I also like to get it up to temp for 1 really big "herc" hit. Then hit it 2 more times without pressing the button. Seems to cool it nicely. And IMO helps prevent too much buildup
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  8. kindbeats

    kindbeats Give me the Jillybean shatter and nobody gets hurt

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    Are you pulling during the 10-30 second warm up or do you start pulling after the warm up period?
  9. tharealmclovin

    tharealmclovin Well-Known Member

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    My first tiny hit is about 10 seconds in to pop the clog, then around 20-30 second mark I try again. If I don't get my "herc hit" that I'm looking for then I wait 5 more then give it a huge pull. HOLD ON to something.

    Once I can see, I take the 2 hits with no button to cool it.

    I should also add that I get vapor majority of the time....I'm just looking for clouds that take down elephants.

    THIS IS WITH MY THICK WAXY OIL.
  10. whyblameus

    whyblameus Member

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    So are you supposed to be inhailing on the warm up time?

    Because I thought no which would make those 2 statments contradictive.

    Sorry but hese aren't good instructions to me.
    It sounds like your saying to start hitting before activating and continue during warm up 10-30 seconds actually get your hit and continue to hit for 10-20 more seconds. Who can really continuously draw in air for close to a minute.

    I know thats not what you are really saying cause I have been paying attention to how all of these people are using them. but to someone with no knowledge about these at all might not understand correctly.
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  11. SlideOrDie

    SlideOrDie Well-Known Member

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    I've heard you should always be inhaling a bit on warmup or else oil vapor will build up inside the Hercules and gum it up... and then I've heard wait for it to warm up a little and then hit a bit...

    That being said, these ARE NOT INSTRUCTIONS... these are just notes dude... and you can take breaths in between obviously... I'm not asking you to inhale for a solid minute...

    This is just info based on what everyone's said so far, including G, but I'll remove those notes since I guess they'll cause confusion.
  12. whyblameus

    whyblameus Member

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    I dont think yo need to change both statements maybe just the the part about inhaling first.keep the cool down part.
    And keep to hole other part about 10-30 seconds then hit. Thats good info.

    Sorry i dont me to be nit picky just trying to help.
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  13. SlideOrDie

    SlideOrDie Well-Known Member

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    No worries, I'm just trying to help... Fixed it now though so it won't cause confusion.
  14. kevin

    kevin Well-Known Member

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    I have found the most important thing is to prime or prep your load, after I put about half of my .3g in I melt it into plate w/bic not to much heat just melt it, then put in the rest and melt! Now your ready for mass clouds w/very little wait time.
    Kevin
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  15. SlideOrDie

    SlideOrDie Well-Known Member

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    Added to the notes section. Thank you Kevin!

    Hopefully I can edit my post for a while so we can just continue to add to the notes!
  16. THC SCIENTIFIC

    THC SCIENTIFIC Black Gold Manufacturer

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    guys looks like we are moving into Teflon on the outside shell and the bottom insulator.
  17. JDR

    JDR Active Member

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    They ought to give bonus grouplikeyou points or whatever they are for this sort of thing. Summaries and FAQs that people gather, even without popping them on vpedia, should be praised to the skies.

    I praise thee to the skies.

    JDR
  18. Nick Again

    Nick Again _

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    So does that mean it will be white PFTE like the prototype was?

    -NDA
  19. JDR

    JDR Active Member

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    Hmm, not sure I follow. Loooong, sippy hits, usually with more than one breath is standard approach used for many of these vaporisors we love so much.

    JDR
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  20. mephisto

    mephisto Well-Known Member

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    How about a big THANKS to G and fellow FC'ers. I must have had some residual moisture
    in my tank, this caused the quick discharge of my cells. It also prevented me from getting
    the goods....Meanwhile, amidst all the clamor, G took the time to respond almost immediately
    to my pm. Thanks G, it looks like I got it. After reading Slide and TRMc's posts, I preheated my
    tank, listened for the crackle, and then got my ass handed to me via massive, even herculean!!
    clouds. All good on the East Coast tonite, don't think I will need to hit the flower vape after all.
    Thanks again to all parties!!!! The Herc rocks with homemade QWISO, and QWeth extracts.
    Any doubts, start with fresh cells, preheat your tank to save the juice for vapor, and then hit
    the bitch and prepare to be seated. i am and i just did.......
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  21. SlideOrDie

    SlideOrDie Well-Known Member

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    Thanks for the kind words JDR, I'm just trying to make life easier for everyone!

    If I knew how, I'd definitely make a Hercules page for vaporpedia so everyone could view and update it as we gather more information!
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  22. JDR

    JDR Active Member

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    I have a similar impulses to gather and refine available info. I even feel the pull to do some labor for the vaporpedia. I read on the site that they are in need of folks to distill and write up established methods from FC pages.

    But then I remember I have other things to do and can alot only so much time for what I view as fluffy fun things. ;)

    JDR
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  23. David Nevers

    David Nevers Active Member

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    organic cotton???
  24. BLAZING OG

    BLAZING OG Vaping is a way of life!

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    Thats Awesome, i was one of the first to post about the spinning threaded part where the mouthpiece screws in, it finally came off but now i can just snap it on or off!!!
    Excited about the new teflon material!!???
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  25. tharealmclovin

    tharealmclovin Well-Known Member

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    its for the bender. to act as a screen to keep herb from sucking through

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