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The Persei Vaporizer for herbs and concentrates.

Discussion in 'Portable Vaporizers' started by THC SCIENTIFIC, Jan 13, 2012.

  1. THC SCIENTIFIC

    THC SCIENTIFIC Black Gold Manufacturer

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    Well i would start off by going easy on the 5.0's first learn how to use that then once you master that the 4.0's would be a blast, all you have to do is remember to press half the seconds you would with a 5.0 and adjust from there.


    by the way here is a image of the Original persei with the ss tubes on the side for comparison.

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  2. ataxian

    ataxian California

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    Now I'm getting some great information!

    OK my typical night of insomnia.
    Dwelling on dual vaporization!

    Down to my garage at 1:07AM and open the tool box with all the PERSEI gadgets.
    I have 3 x 2.4 carts left and one with 500 hits that is still going on my Chrome unit?
    OF and tharealmclovin are trying to warn me about the experience factor.
    So after putting my ego in my pocket I decide to listen.
    Plus I have the most beautiful collection of medicine I don't want to waste.

    I see Vitolo's video making it look so easy so I had to make this work without wasting my medicine.

    Here's what I did:

    Took some L.A. Budder 0.65g and loaded a new 2.4 cart that I primed.
    Tested my new load (Perfect medicine vapor clouds).
    Knowing the new cart is working I attach the dual top leaving in the 3.7 battery.
    With both carts installed I ad the the dual to single mouth piece tip.
    HOLD button 5 seconds and let go: (both these carts are working well)
    Test one: Perfect Vapor Cloud
    Test two: Perfect Vapor Cloud
    Test three: Perfect Vapor Cloud
    Test Four: Need to stop
    Conclusion: Double Dosed (careful)

    Now the light bulb in my brain clicked.
    I will need more experience to use the 5.0 carts.
    The 2.4's like OF advised are a good place to start.
    Now I will start trying different batteries and cart configurations.

    There is a definite learning curve I need to respect. (sorry for my arrogant behavior)

    I am super lucky to buy a PERSEI so early in my 420 journey.
    It's like having a 911 for your first car!

    I want to give thanks to all my teachers on this site!

    4 more rips and back to bed!
  3. ataxian

    ataxian California

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    I really don't think you wasted any money just gaining more stuff!
    I bought a five pack of the 2.4 carts based on OF's advice.
    I was not having any luck in the beginning with the 5.0 cart I first tried with PURE GOLD.
    OK I use different concentrates now (more viscous)!
    Now I want to get some more batteries and different carts like the 4.0's.
    I ended up buying a second PERSEI because the first one worked so well.
    It can be luring to buy all the different vapes out there however the PERSEI can do so much!

    Can't wait for the HERCULES.

    Just cool stuff!
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  4. Zingbuddah

    Zingbuddah Vaporologist

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    I've tried both the ISO soak as well as boiling the main body glass with no luck getting all of the brown tinge to disappear. Jam tried as well before she sent it to me with the same results.

    A sure fire method to remove EVERYTHING is D-Limonene....found at any Home Depot in:

    ZEP 64 oz. Organic Drain and Disposal Cleaner

    For $3 you can get three times the amount of the praised Grunge Off Super Soaker in a different bottle...3-24 hours soaking and then just rinse well.

    There are a few more active chemicals besides D-Limon but using gloves and rinsing leaves no residue and will take EVERY bit off that can be cleaned.

    I'll give it a shot on mine and post a pic.

    -Z
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  5. jambandphan03

    jambandphan03 Vapor Goddess

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    I tried straight D-lime liquid, (no other additives), and couldn't get the brown glass to wash clean, so good luck to you guys getting that brown stain from the center bulb.
  6. ataxian

    ataxian California

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    OK then if PURE GOLD has D-Limone in it I will have l will longer vape it.
    Question for you?
    Is the flavor from the blender good?
  7. Zingbuddah

    Zingbuddah Vaporologist

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    The D-Lemon isn't the issue, its the other chemical in it that assists in cleaning the garbage disposal. I routinely handle D-Lemon without gloves without issues. Bob is the resident expert on the safety from reading his other posts.

    AFA the Bender, I'm putting it at 9.5 out of a possible 10 only because of the glass and my tendency to break said glass. I love the flavor from the Bender....great for really bringing out the flavor of any herb (drying helps).
  8. OF

    OF Well-Known Member

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    Gentle friends,

    This brown stain isn't on the inside the lower chamber (where the nail is)? Out gassing from the nail?

    How about fine steel wool on a stick? You know like the q-tips the Tin Woodsman used to clean his ears?

    OF
  9. Zingbuddah

    Zingbuddah Vaporologist

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    OF,

    Just happened to have both sitting right here...sorry to report no luck on the steel wool method.

    Not sure if the stain is on the inside or outside...could be a spot on the glass where it collects heat and is attracting more material.

    I just took a few before pics and started the D-Limon dunk. I'll follow up later today with progress.
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  10. Nick Again

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    WARNING!
    Never clean borosilicate glass with ANY abrasive! Even microscopic scratches will greatly weaken the material and will probably lead to cracking when heated.

    From Corning:
    http://catalog2.corning.com/Lifesciences/media/pdf/CLS_AN_112_CleaningGlassware.pdf

    -NDA
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  11. OF

    OF Well-Known Member

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    Not exactly true, never scratch the surface. Mild enough abrasives are fine. Quoting from that very web page:
    "For glassware that is exceptionally dirty, a cleaning powder with a very mild
    abrasive action, such as BonAmiĀ®, will give more satisfactory results. The abrasive should not
    scratch the glass."

    What gets guys into trouble is hardened metal and high pressure. Steel wool (misnomer, it's really quite soft...) and a stick is safe enough in my experience. Hard steel tools can scratch and lots of 'elbow grease' can frost some glass surfaces but gentle scrubbing with a steel tip swab should be fine.

    Yes, avoid scratches. My money is still on cosmetic stains far outside the vapor path. Time will tell.

    Thanks.

    OF
  12. jambandphan03

    jambandphan03 Vapor Goddess

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    I was wondering if it was the glass that discolored due to heat, since nothing was taking off the stain...
  13. SlideOrDie

    SlideOrDie Well-Known Member

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    Pretty sure its the same issue that happens with direct inject joints on oil rigs... the tip of the joint where the nail sits gets discolored and is pretty much impossible to get back to a perfectly clean state.
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  14. Zingbuddah

    Zingbuddah Vaporologist

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    A few hours in and zero luck with the D-Limon. I'll let it go overnight now and then hit it with a Q-tip and toothpaste chocked up in the Dremel.

    -Z
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  15. Nick Again

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    What counts is if the "scraping" material is harder than the glass (as in the Mohs scale). Steel wool is harder than glass.
    Check the (non-technical) article below, particularly the comment from December 29, 2009 10:44 PM.
    http://anythingbutipod.com/2009/04/glass-screen-durability-test-a-lesson-on-the-mohs-hardness-scale

    Steel wool (and Iron wool, which is softer - in hardware stores) is rated by abrasiveness; Don't use "0" - It is too hard; "000" _might_ be OK. Typically boro glass is about 5 to 5.5 on the Mohs scale. Iron wool is about 4, but steel wool is 5 to 6 (i.e. TOO HARD).

    And whatever is in BonAmi or other household cleaners should be softer than 4 also.

    BTW: When I worked in a lab, we sometimes used toothpaste (IIRC Crest), and sometimes it worked :)

    -NDA
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  16. jambandphan03

    jambandphan03 Vapor Goddess

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    why the obsession with removing the brown? It will simply return again on the next use, even if you succeed in removing it. I would be concerned about damaging the glass, even by accident, at some point, is it worth the risk? Simple methods are not working, why push the issue?
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  17. Zingbuddah

    Zingbuddah Vaporologist

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    OCD is a killer...right now I hate using my Persei because it has a scratch on the tube.

    Drives me nuts if I can't get it spotless.

    But you are right, it isn't affecting anything.
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  18. Bart

    Bart Well-Known Member

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    Keep the bowl full and you won't notice the stain. Happy vaping.
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  19. Tweek

    Tweek Well-Known Member

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    I want to buy a Persei just so that I can do this...
  20. Vitolo

    Vitolo Vaporist

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    Choose a pleasant strain, whose scent you love.. I walked around smelling "Blueberry kush" and "Medibud" for an hour!
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  21. kittyboy

    kittyboy Well-Known Member

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    makes me want to sneeze not sure I could handle that intake. I just quiver at that photo.
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  22. baltik

    baltik Well-Known Member

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    Just to confirm - dual top kills battery life twice as fast? The cartridges otherwise behave same way as if a single cartridge was used? (ie no need to change voltage or ohms based on dual top vs single top)
  23. THC SCIENTIFIC

    THC SCIENTIFIC Black Gold Manufacturer

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    Yes dual top = faster battery drain.
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  24. havealight101

    havealight101 Norski

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    Short answer: correct, correct
    Long answer : uuuummmmmmm.....OF to the rescue?
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  25. OF

    OF Well-Known Member

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    Not to mention, bigger smiles....and sooner.

    Rescue what? As usual, HAL has the straight poop....and in a timely manner no less!

    OF

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