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The Mighty by Storz & Bickel

Discussion in 'Portable Vaporizers' started by Roger D, Oct 16, 2014.

  1. Rollingstoned

    Rollingstoned Member

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    After my experience with the mighty, any temperature below 190 C (375 F) is a waste of your herb.
    I start at 190 and finish at 205
    I have never used a water tool and never will.
    You can try lower temps but all your getting is a good flavor, to get the most out of your herb stay with 190-205 and let us know how that goes
     
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  2. Some-new-user

    Some-new-user Active Member

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    Don't think there is an easy technique to this. Like you say small tokes. You could possibly add some silicone tube to the mouthpiece but I feel like this would take things away from the experience (vapour condensation in the tube) I'm thinking of a way around but struggling.

    I would really suggest lower temps. Slower inhalation also (as if you were only breathing, not smoking/vaping).

    I salute you though 210 or even 200 is an end of session temp for me. I'm usually around 360f-380 max.

    Perhaps combine your vaping with a warm beverage? Help condition the throat so it's not too much of a shock. Lungs will still rip though.

    Hope you get there. Interested to hear other opinions
     
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  3. OyVape

    OyVape Well-Known Member

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    I strongly disagree! some of us actually prefer the high with lower temps. It’s not “wasting” your herb. Different strokes and all that. I get huge rips sometimes at 340+, depending on the herb.
     
  4. vapviking

    vapviking Well-Known Member

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    As I mentioned, you'll get a lot of different answers. See below.
    Maybe you need a Volcano. I imagine the vape gets a good chance to cool down in that bladder/ballon thing!
    Realistically, whatever you use to mitigate the harshness at higher temp is going to also diminish the amount of vape due to the condensation you'd be introducing. If you ran through 5 cooling units in series, you'd be collecting a lot of condensate in them! But the hits would be smoother on the throat and lungs.
    I think a lot of folks have different impressions about temps where herb may or may not be wasted. At lower temps it's not just a flavor issue, though flavor is definitely better in lower range, the effects of the vape itself are simply different. Some people even prefer those to the effect of from high temp vape. For them, getting a light 'functunal' buzz may just hit the spot and be all they ever really want or need from the bud. Would that really be a 'waste' of herb?

    I don't understand why you have such negative feelings about using water tool to moisturize what is otherwise a very dry (=harsh) experience. It sounds like you may not ever experience what it is you're missing!

    And @OyVape put it pretty succintly! ^^^
     
  5. cloudsosmoke

    cloudsosmoke Well-Known Member

    I managed to get a little extra cooling with crafty at high temps
    By using usb fan and only picking it up to puff

    - positioned with button at front ..one inch away from fan
    (Trying to maximise airflow over fins
    ..Noticed cooling fins are only around heater not battery)
    I felt I got cooler vapor

    On the mighty the breeze would want to hit fins at an angle maybe

    Thought I might as well recycle that suggestion ..at least it’s fairly easy to try lol
     
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  6. Baron23

    Baron23 Well-Known Member

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    I run my Mighty consistently at 385F and at the very end boost to 410 F. Works for me and the flower is extremely well extracted. I tend to top my loads with a liquid pad to add a bit more conduction at the end of the session. Wonderfully even brown AVB.

    I have tried it through water and didn't like it and I do use water tools and generally do like them.

    I have never for one moment regretted my purchase of a Mighty....and I have buyer's remorse about almost everything! haha
     
  7. Some-new-user

    Some-new-user Active Member

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    Good to hear from @Baron23. There's a few mixed opinions here which is interesting. Just solidifies the fact that there's no right or wrong way to vape. It is a lot about personal preference. We can take advice and tips from each other but no one can tell you what works for you. My enjoyment with vaping is the control you have compared to just putting fire on your herb.

    I don't regret buying the mighty either. I may have gone a bit overboard buying 3 desktop vapes on the back of the mighty but I really don't want to go back to smoking. I just see this as life preservation for the mighty. Think of it as buying rolling papers or cigarettes (UK where we usually mix tobacco) and roach. Wouldn't think twice about buying a pack of rizla. Which my mighty cost between 200-300 packs of. 4 years supply at the most in paper alone! That's not eventing in to account lighters and gas or how much this adventure has saved me in actual weed consumption.

    To the question in hand. I just remembered someone mentioning putting g a marble or ball bearing in the cooling unit. I'm not sure if it's a Mighty, crafty or vivant (alternate) owner. 99.9% sure its on FC though. I guess you'll still get the condensation problem though. Worth a try if you're really looking to do a 210 vape. Just be careful not to inhale the marble or whatever you put in there. 1/2 joking, fully serious- I don't want you choking on my conscious.

    There will be something you can do but this is where the fun of vaping really kicks in for me. Experimenting. You might come up with something that no one has thought of yet. Just relax and get creative.

    Good luck. Let us know how you get on.
     
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  8. Vaporcussion

    Vaporcussion Well-Known Member

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    Tried that long ago! It goes too hot, is how that goes. Again, to each is own, enjoy!
     
  9. Rollingstoned

    Rollingstoned Member

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    if any beginer wants a good experience with the mighty, anything above 375 will get a fully extracted bowl, especially ending at the higher temperatures.
     
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  10. AddictedToCombustion

    AddictedToCombustion Member

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    thank you guys for your help it is much appreciated i was told that this is the best vape community... and it seriously is guys im going to go for a bubbler but i wanted something small but good quality in terms of build quality, safety and performance. i saw the budgie bubbler but there was bad reviews about it.
     
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  11. Faolan

    Faolan Well-Known Member

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    So how stealthy can you be with the mighty?
     
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  12. JCat

    JCat Well-Known Member Accessory Maker

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    The issue with this is you really need something that's really high temp. (this isn't just any plastic) There is definitely a market for these though ... if my Mighty/Crafty case was broken, I'd be willing to pay up to $100 for a new housing ... @Ratchett ... any possibility of this?
     
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  13. Hogni

    Hogni Honi soit qui mal y pense

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    Even if you can get a whole replacement device for $75(?) ?
     
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  14. Ratchett

    Ratchett Vape Accessories Delta3DStudios.com Accessory Maker

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    While it's possible to 3D print a replacement housing, the problem is indeed the proper material for the job.

    While PEEK is 3D printable with an FDM machine, it wouldn't be capable of producing the detail necessary for proper alignment of the components. And while I do have some other engineering grade high temp polymers which would look beautiful and function perfect, the material would be extremely brittle.

    I'm still researching 3D print-ability of various high-temp materials, but we're not quite there yet for direct replication of this functional product
     
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  15. tdriver

    tdriver Well-Known Member

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    you can't ! you need to have warranty.


    @Ratchett
    @JCat

    ...then just a mod that keeps both parts (cu+heater) together will also do...!!
     
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  16. JCat

    JCat Well-Known Member Accessory Maker

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    I think the replacement device is more like >$100 (in USD) if you have a warranty, and out of warranty best you can hope for is 50% off but the new device doesn't get a new warranty!

    It's really too bad they won't stand by their devices and repair them ... things break, batteries are a consumable, and plastic ages and gets brittle as well ...
     
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  17. Some-new-user

    Some-new-user Active Member

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    I can confirm that the balloons from the volcano feel a lot cooler than the mighty. I'm running a volcano at 380 and it's very smooth.

    I would also suggest trying as little material as possible. The S+B products seem to be very efficient but also unique. Maybe it's me or my technique or maybe it cause I only have 2 other conduction vapes to compare this with. It's hard to describe and get my head around fully at the moment. I've only had a mighty for about 5 months. Plenty for a couple and volcano digit for a month. Switching between them is fun and is also teaching me their little nuances. I can microdose now with the Mighty and Volcano - just had the lightest whispy balloon from 0.04g on a volcano- i'm getting good results using a basket screen from an Extreme Q with a gauze on as a lid in the reducer chamber. On the Mighty I am using CBD hemp at the moment, in capsules topped with half a liquid pad or a screen and then with the lid on the cap.

    My thoughts are if you fully load the chamber there's more substance there to vaporise and the clouds are going to be thicker where as if you use as little as possible there's more air to vapour ratio? So @AddictedToCombustion would you mind doing an experiment like that for me? I know you said you're going to get a bubbler. I've been using mine for the last few morning sessions, and I'm really enjoying it but I'd be very interested to hear your experience.

    The Plenty seems like I need to fill it up a bit more but then that's what I like about it. I know it's going to hit and keep hitting if I fill it so only use it when I'm in the/a mood :)
     
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  18. MinnBobber

    MinnBobber Well-Known Member

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    Mighty European Travel Report:
    on my recent trip to Amsterdam and Europe I brought two travel vapes. Mighty and VapCap M.
    I use them very little at home as I 99% vape with my miniVAP and Herbalizer.

    My guess was the Mighty would get most use but I moved over to mostly VapCap. IMO, the Mighty has
    many many positive attributes but the weak points for me were the "chamber", the none-standup securely design,
    the 410 F limit, the need to finish your dose or it keeps cooking.

    Direct chamber loading was never an option for me as that stains the chamber so bad. I use the capsules but have
    grown to dislike them and after this trip, maybe beyond dislike. They get fricken hot and stay hot for a loooong time.
    They even burn when heating up/ before you even take a draw---wanted to inspect my load and inspected burn ointment instead. Capsule holes are too big as they let a lot of ABV get sucked out. Capsules seem to resist opening yet other times, they come open when you don't want that.

    Vaping story:
    One night at 1 AM, sitting on the doorstoop of a 1635 church, overlooking the vacant town square, the Mighty gave some
    very nice hits from the Amazing Haze bud/ G-13 and Super Lemon Haze bloc hash.Time to stir but learned my lesson on hot capsules so removed CU and sucked some ghost draws to help cool. Then blew over top of rich capsule with unit leaned about 10 degrees and........ the fricken low pressure area sucked the capsule right out of the chamber and.... it's rolling down the top 3 steps and capsule still intact.... it's rolling across the top landing and capsule still intact.... it's rolling down the entire top stairs and still intact.... it's onto the next landing and still intact....it's now turned to start the next set of stairs and it's in pieces and there goes the prized contents :(

    Luckily, I brought my miniVAP Flexicone setup to use without the cooling unit, for direct draws and better filtering of ABV
    and immediate cooling and more convection heating. It Flexicone has a fine screen and tiny hemp filter to contain all ABV micro dust
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    With water, this is an awesome setup, like for a hard hitting party vape. Without water, this gets harsh after a few hits
    so it has drawbacks for travel use too.

    VapCap came into play and it was very impressive with the miniPortside induction heater, 6 seconds to heat and puff.
    It is very smooth and cool for its size. It worked much better than expected.
     
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  19. Faolan

    Faolan Well-Known Member

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    You know it's time to clean your cu when dry hits get you high lol.
    6 months with the Mighty and still going strong :)
     
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  20. Donskills

    Donskills Member

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    How many loads a day????
     
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  21. Faolan

    Faolan Well-Known Member

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    1-3 usually. Using about .1
     
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  22. Used2use

    Used2use Sometimes to stupid to become a fool

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    :2c: only if u leave them in the chamber, they actually cool pretty quick if u hold the mighty upside down before removing the CU and then let the cap cool a few sec sitting on the CU screen...
     
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  23. wildything

    wildything Well-Known Member

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    I've been using a silicone container (traditionally for dabs) to toss the hot capsules into and just turn up the temp to fully extract as i don't find it necessary to stir the load.
     
  24. simplywonderful

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    Does anybody of you fellow FC members invented some kind of protection sleeve/bumper/case which would protect the mighty from accidental bumps? ?mainly the cu mount part, thats where the device seems to fail... or do you recommend not keeping the CU on it at all?
    I would appreciate your tips :)
    :wave:
     
  25. disGRUNTled

    disGRUNTled Well-Known Member

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    Vaping some Gluebert , first time trying concentrates in the Mighty.Watching Monday Night Raw.
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