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The Magic-Flight Box

Discussion in 'Portable Vaporizers' started by magicflight, May 16, 2009.

  1. lwien

    lwien Well-Known Member

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    GREAT find.

    And did anyone notice that Landry could be Neil Youngs twin brother. lol
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  2. Vitolo

    Vitolo Vaporist

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    The power adapter is desireable for use with concentrate trays... to stay at level desired for full consumption of product.
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  3. davesmith

    davesmith Well-Known Member

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    Your maroc hash should come out very dark and dusty if it has been fully extracted. Something similar to charcoal depending on how full you want your extraction.

    Are you using batteries or pa?

    I usually fine grind or flatten some hash onto the unscreened tray and then keep the battery in until the tray is finished. I judge this by taste, as soon as it gets acrid I stop. You should definitely be seeing vapour/smoke regardless.

    Hope this helps
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  4. OF

    OF Well-Known Member

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    I understand the very natural (and some might say 'healthy') desire to get a cheap price and all but I think the idea of "fair trade" is potentially a good one. As in good for us, the consumers. By protecting the dealers from cutthroat competitors (who in theory are violating the same agreement somewhere along the line) TV is working to giving all their customers 'an even break' and the same (top notch) customer support.

    Our cost per box could be lower if the 'cheaters' weren't doing their thing. Instead, we're paying a bit more for ours that actually goes into some opportunist dealer's pocket. No free lunches. Only some 'me first' going on.

    Again, I get the 'I only want the best price' and all but see it in somewhat broader terms perhaps? I'm big on open markets, Capitalism and all but since there was, somewhere along the line, a contract forbidding 'price cutting'. Someone went back on that agreement to make that sort of offer (if not in theory, in practice), in a way it's a bit like the black market? In the end, once again, it's the guys that follow the rules that pay (at least part) of the price.

    Thanks for listening.

    OF
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  5. GrilledGoat

    GrilledGoat New South Vaper

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    So... While I have been waiting for my PnP to arrive...

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    Wonderful smooth milky hits from the mflb and PA:tup:

    Kindof ghetto i know..
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    It works!:lol::rockon:

    Uh waiting on packages.. :rolleyes:
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  6. Vicki

    Vicki The Bionic Woman

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    I did find one special deal that ends in 6 days. Vapor Nation has a 15% off code that makes the MFLB $101.15, with the discount. Randy at Puffitup might match that price, if you ask.

    https://www.vapornation.com/checkout/cart/
  7. mplx

    mplx Active Member

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    I know but i assumed that a full battery could give at least for a minute enough heat to extract the good stuff out. A power adapter would cost me ~80(!!!!! licensed by Apple or so?:mad:) euro`s.


    I put the battery in, wait >5 seconds and inhale very slowly for maybe 20/30 seconds with the battery in. A 20 cm tube is used to cool down the vape, same tube as used for the herbs.
    The hash gets dark, almost black like coal but not powdery just solid but also a little gumlike when you press it between your fingers. When i clean the tray with a solder-torch then it gets powdery and grey and falls off like dust. No problems with dried herbs at all, works great. :)
  8. KidFated.

    KidFated. Good Things Come To Those Who Chill

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    Buy a used pa, they are worth it
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  9. abhishek

    abhishek Well-Known Member

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    Thanks a lot :tup:just one more question :hmm:
    Do I end up paying any duty , if I get it shipped to toronto
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  10. Vicki

    Vicki The Bionic Woman

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    Oh wow, I don't know about that.
  11. mplx

    mplx Active Member

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    Good idea. But problem is that i have to get it shipped to Holland. That`s expensive international shipping + Customs tax. Buying a new one from a Dutch webshop would get me (a new) one for the same price.

    Does a PA also give more power or only limitless power? Because i have 4 batteries now and i never used more than 1,5 battery a day. If it`s just limitless power maybe i should use the money to buy a dedicated portable vape for concentrates and use the FB for the green.
  12. Ano

    Ano FC Lover

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    My PA 2.0 at 100% seems to give me more power than a full glyph battery.
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  13. Vitolo

    Vitolo Vaporist

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    Limitless power... at the level of the first second of use, on a freshly charged new battery.
    The constant level would equate to more power, since it won't decline
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  14. mplx

    mplx Active Member

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    I will consider a PA, also i was looking around for a hash dedicated portable, that way i would keep the LB clean for greens. Tonight i will try again with a 100% full battery and see what the first short inhale does.
  15. KidFated.

    KidFated. Good Things Come To Those Who Chill

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    For hash I would let it heat longer before I take a draw
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  16. poonman

    poonman Well-Known Member

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    + 1 for the PA

    I'd never had to pay any Custom Duties when I did biz. with MF or PIU .
    In fact , Randy at PIU didn't even charged me taxes . Which you know can add up to 13 % here in Canada .:ugh:

    I agree with Not short-changing the inventors/mfg .
    But the Government , I've Donated enough to their Cause ...
  17. abhishek

    abhishek Well-Known Member

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    I will contact Puffitup today itself, I usually buy from Planetvape, I will write to em too for a price match..
    Thanks for all the info, u will soon find me bothering u guys for all the tips and tricks , mentioned in almost 1000 pages here..thanks once again and I just love this community
  18. davesmith

    davesmith Well-Known Member

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    @mplx you should be fine with batteries, a pa isn't necessary just useful. Your hash shouldn't really hav any moisture left in it, you might have to try spreading it thinner. Also I'd wait to see a thick vapour in the trench to inhale. I literally don't release the battery when vaping hash.

    @OF I don't know about over there but in the uk RRP is only that, recommended. It's against the law to price fix and if someone wants to play loss leader with a product that's entirely up to them. In reality a lot of companies do plead with retailers to price fix but there's usually someone willing to take a little hit and drop prices. Not that I disagree with your sentiment just pointing out my experience with the retail industry.

    Peace

    E2a the hammer does a great job with hash as will the solo. So consider them for a hash portable maybe
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  19. mplx

    mplx Active Member

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    Thanks, this worked:tup:

    Hi Dave, you are right, i noticed yesterday. I made some kind of small hash-sausage to cover the tray. Then i waited till vape was produced. Now i see why a PA is so useful. With 4 batteries around it`s no problem, but it takes a full battery to vape out one load of hash:lol:. I just didn`t wait long enough the first time to produce enough vape. Good thing is that it seems impossible to burn the hash. It only gets hotter and then it forms small bubbles. When the chamber is full of vape i take an inhale and yes then it works. Very good :o. Even by exhaling afther >20 seconds you can see the vape:tup:

    Maybe i`ll buy a PA later. For now, 4 batteries work fine
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  20. OF

    OF Well-Known Member

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    Thanks for the details. Here we have MSRP (Manufacturers Recommended [sorry, make that Suggested...] Retail Price), similar I think? A suggestion. There's also 'List Price' for autos and stuff nobody expects to actually pay. "Fair Trade" is a contractual agreement, it goes with the deal. The contract can be broken on that basis so lots of the time they try to hide their dishonesty behind fake names on EBay and so on. In the end, I think, it hurts honest folks (both customers and dealers) for personal profit. Not like stolen goods, but on that path?

    A while back we had a bunch of cheap LBs on EBay with their serial numbers sanded off, wanna guess why?

    Thanks again for the perspective, I prefer this system I think, despite the flaws.

    OF
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  21. Vitolo

    Vitolo Vaporist

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    Since this is a democracy, the company gets to make the rules for the handling of their goods!
    It is not federal law, carved in granite, but rather a "house rule"
    There are no legal sanctions....
    a simple "If we learn that you undercut any other of our distributors, we will never do business with you again."
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  22. OF

    OF Well-Known Member

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    Interesting. It's not contractual? My experience with "Fair Trade Agreements" sure was. Violation of one of them specifically named 'full retail costs' to us (the maker). We got a warranty repair sent in with a copy of the invoice from an owner in Florida. Under the agreed to price. The OM (Old Man, company owner) was looking for a way to 'break the lease' (he had another dealer prospect in the area), he used it as the excuse to cancel the contract and wrote a more profitable one with the original guy's competitor. He then sued (successfully) for the full sale price (already had the money from the dealer sale) and got the judge to grant him normal retail (rather than dealer cost) for the consignment gear he couldn't account for. That guy was pissed, cost him something like $120K IIRC, word got around and many of the other dealers (who were being honest) thanked the OM. And IMO rightly so (even if the did it for the bucks). At the very least, as you suggest, it releases the maker from his obligations to sell more to that dealer.

    It's not a matter of law AFAIK, but a contractual agreement, with full recourse through Tort Law in at least some cases. I've seen it happen from a safe distance, it was kinda ugly up close I bet.

    It's a practice that's been around for a long time and I bet worked better before EBay and PayPal?
    http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/fair-trade agreement

    OF
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  23. KidFated.

    KidFated. Good Things Come To Those Who Chill

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    Wow.. I forgot how well the LB handled kief ;)
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  24. sethhobrin

    sethhobrin Well-Known Member

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    Guys I have two new launchboxes. A cherry and a walnut. They are only a few weeks old. For some reason I cannot get the walnut one to work well. The cherry one rips awesome after I got over the learning curve. The walnut one seems to either just char the material or not produce any vapor and is prone to combusting. I can't figure out whats wrong. Same batteries and material.

    Any ideas? I am using them naked without any accessories or draw tubes.
  25. KidFated.

    KidFated. Good Things Come To Those Who Chill

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    Is there maybe a small hole or tear in the screen? Screens are delicate and where the heat is.
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