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Discussion in 'Portable Vaporizers' started by magicflight, May 16, 2009.

  1. Vitolo

    Vitolo Vaporist

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    cut the holes around the corner toward top, so that you can not expose center pole
     
  2. GenYHippie

    GenYHippie Well-Known Member

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    Awesome thank you Vitolo hope that makes them easier to handle.
     
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  3. iVapeTooMuch

    iVapeTooMuch The Legend

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    How long do the glyth batteries hold a charge? Like, if I fully charged a battery and did not use it at all, how would it be before I needed to charge it again so it had a decent amount of power?
    I know about LSD and HSD, however the description on the Magic Flight website states that they are "between LSD and HSD".
     
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  4. GenYHippie

    GenYHippie Well-Known Member

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    Someone who has used it longer can give you a better estimate but for me taking little mini hits a few times a day i still had a charge on the same battery 3 days in. Im a super light medicater though. I havent used it in 2 days so i dont know about how much chatge they have on them now.
     
  5. kente777

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    Does anyone know what a full trench equal in .grams? Assuming the weed is relatively dry and well ground.

    Ken
     
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  6. OF

    OF Well-Known Member

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    Or ditch the vinyl caps and use a couple caps from 'Chapstick' lip balm (or similar). They are harder plastic, a bit larger and designed to easily sip on and off (rather than designed to hang on like the vinyl caps are).

    My 'standard load' is 1/8 gram. I usually weigh out a dozen or more at a time (into small vials) holding .120 to .130 grams.

    OF
     
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  7. GenYHippie

    GenYHippie Well-Known Member

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    thank you OF I will see if any of my lip balm caps fit.
     
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  8. KidFated.

    KidFated. Watch your pawking metaws.

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    Holy shit my orbiter whips STINK!!!!!!!
     
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  9. linux3214

    linux3214 Active Member

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    You can disassemble the whip and replace it with oxygen tubing which is clear so shows reclaim quicker. It shouldnt be a dust magnet though.
     
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  10. KidFated.

    KidFated. Watch your pawking metaws.

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    I'll have to get some from the nursing home then! Thanks hey
     
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  11. pjwalm

    pjwalm Well-Known Member

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    @ the whips - there white silicone. I bought similar ones when i had a DaBuddha. Great stuff; very inert. They will get less sticky with time. I always wanted to put them in a cloth sleeve like you might a hookah whip.

    @ which mix is best - i've been looking into it for a while and feeling fine was by far the best reviewed. Never used it myself.

    @ the taste of damiana - I vaped damiana tea for a while in a dabuddha. Tasted awesome! Sorta like a cotton candy/bubblebum flavor? Unfortunately the flavor faded quickly. I felt some effects, but I think they were a plecebo. Originally intended to mix it with herb, but felt like it ruined my abv, oil, and added a weird scent. I ended up packing smaller herb bowls.

    I used to vape hops (the extract pellets) sometimes. They were great. Felt decent, but easy to overdo. There cheap too. I used cascade, but a lot of them seem like they would be as good or better. You may want to experiment with different forms (leafy cone vs compressed cones vs extract pelets). I probably wouldn't mix them with weed as not to taint it. Idek if i'd want to taint my box with frequent hop use vaping, but there pretty good. :)
     
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  12. pjwalm

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    Also the advantages of the white silicone is that theres no off gassing, it doesn't react with iso alcohol, and it slips on and off glass easier. I've found it collects oil better then vynl tubing because it's more porous/sticky. I also find it hold the smell well. :/ (can get clean, but not perfect like glass)

    Edit: for cleaning I used to scrape the part closest to the box, do an iso soak/rinse, then boil. I feel like boiling worked the best (if your in a position to do this - it smells).
     
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  13. linux3214

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    I never thought to boil it. Thanks dude.
     
  14. horst

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    Thanks pjwalm, good to know that the whip material is on the safe side in terms of off gassing and cleaning. Will clean it in ISO when it's time to and hope that it looses its sticky attitude, if not I will try to boil.

    Any tipps on boiling out? How long, anything in the water to help cleaning or just boil slightly with pure water for an hour?
     
  15. iVapeTooMuch

    iVapeTooMuch The Legend

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    Any answers I can get work for me man :)
    The reason I ask is because I'll be looking to purchase both a portable and a backup vaporizer (for when I don't have access to electricity). If I can charge four glyth batteries and have them keep a full (or nearly full) charge for a decent amount of time, the MFLB will be both my portable and backup unit ;)
     
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  16. GenYHippie

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    Glad to help then :). I have a similar strategy. I got the solo to start since i can easily pick my temp and get a feel for each new strain, then once i knew MJ would work for me i got the MFLB. Now im on to accessories and tools before i upgrade my home gear like maybe a temp control desk top model for by the bed.

    If it helps after a few weeks of reading and deliberating ive decided to get these - http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B009LU9150/ref=ox_sc_sfl_title_6?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER - when i have the money. They had the best reviews for shelf life and useage life i could find under $50.
     
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  17. horst

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    @GenYHippie nice!

    These enerloops seem to be a good backup, available in europe, too.
    Coming precharged and having a low discharge rate making them really viewable.

    Only wonder how much of a hassle it is to get rid of the coating.
    I bet they won't look as good naked as the glyphed ones :D
     
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  18. iVapeTooMuch

    iVapeTooMuch The Legend

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    I have a few hundred dollars saved up for various accessories ;) I've talked with the owner of Underdog and will get getting a unit for my birthday next month. That will act as my at home unit and on the go will be my launch box. Luckily I gave my friend my spare box before I was arrested so I won't have to spend an extra $100 on that.

    I really like the look and price of the Eneloops and charger you posted. That would definitely save me some money as I was previously looking at the Maha C9000 charger. My two main concerns about chargers are a long, slow charge (as opposed to a quick charge) and the ability to house four batteries. I'll haven't done any research on Eneloops but it looks promising. :)

    I love that they have a low discharge rate. That's exactly what I was looking for. :)
    All the batteries I've stripped in the past haven't been too hard to get the label off, some elbow grease always does the trick. ;)
     
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  19. GenYHippie

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    Glad they are available to you as well :). No idea about the coating hopefully its shrink film not glued.

    Good thing youve got the backup box to hold you over. Glad i was able to share something to help :) i hope you like them if you get them. Nice to hear youve been able to "skin" other batteries easily before i hope thats the case with those. Im such a light medicator it doesnt bother me much having a long charge i could probably get away with charging every 2 weeks to a month lol.
     
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  20. pjwalm

    pjwalm Well-Known Member

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    @ cleaning - I used strait water. You could experiment with salt or oil... Idk, that may make it gunky. Definitely takes a while. I did mine for like 40 minutes. Seemed like a rapid boil helped to loosen the gunk. Also, do note that cleaning it may make it a bit sticky again (especially with all the oil in the water) :p

    @ a backup unit - Just got a Lotus and it kicks ass. Hits much harder/stronger. Runs on butane which makes it great for when i can't/don't charge my batteries. The jet lighters can be a bit troublesome though. Also theres definitely a learning curve. I feel like it makes a great compliment to the MFLB.

    Read an article about a sweet one hitter built into a hoodie draw string. Gonna create a whip sometime with 3/16" id white silicon tubing and a braided cable jacket. I bet that same braided jacket could be used to prevent stickiness.

    Anyone know of somewhere cheap to get a dart stem or are they still only being sold through magic flight?
     
  21. horst

    horst Well-Known Member

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    Update on the Herbal Blend Feelin Fine experiences:

    As promised, I want to tell you about my conclusions from the experimental sessions with the feelin fine combined with different ratios of our beloved herb.

    Had 4 different ratios, 1:10, 1:5, 1:3,333 and 1:2.5 and went through all but the last one in the past days.

    1:10 ratio was as expected. Took the whole trench in about half an hour in 18 draws and got as medicated as I would when hitting a pure herb trench approx. 2 times. The taste was absolutly feelin fine dominant, could'nt taste any other nuances.

    1:5 irritated me at first, because I was unsure where to take the break point to split the trench. I messed it up after feelin a good buzz after 6 hits and left it. The buzz turned out to be slightly lesser then the whole 1:10 trench, I should rely on my maths better, 9-10 hits would have been more accurate. So I decided to split the started trench in another two 6-hit sessions and noticed that they where all on the same level.
    If I had split them in two 9-10 hit sessions it should've been exactly even between them.
    Still not a slight taste of herb under the feelin fine blend. Vapor production is also more compareable to a pure feelin fine trench then a herb trench, but that was obvious.

    With 1:3,333 now I got the hang of it. split the whole trench in three 6-hit sessions I was even buzzed all the way through. A slight scent of herb taste underlays the strong peppermint aroma now.

    1:25 is still to be vaped, but I am quite sure that it will remain in the observed conditions and I will get a decent buzz with 4 hits. Still curios if i will get buzzed from the fifth session of this trench or if its already gone then.

    So how do I rate these observations for myself?

    Taste-factor: I like the whole peppermint aroma of the feelin fine, but mixed with herb it's quite sad that the herb-taste gets crushed so much by the dominance of it.

    Stealth-factor: For this reason the herb blend is awesome and I am glad I can rely on it. The MFLB is stealthy as a vape can be, but sometimes this is not enough in some places. Here the herbal fine blend will help me out. having a trench with slighty underlayed herbs in it on the go and lots of pure feelin fine along makes it very hard to get trapped. You can spin your own mind about the many options for excuses this brings into the game.

    Health-factor: As this is the first time I vaped a whole trench at a day, sometimes up to three in a short period, I noticed the throat burn extremly. As the peppermint seems to cool your throat it's already to late when it gets noticed. I need to remind myself to drink something between the hits...

    Fun-factor: I like the whole idea of vaping a whole trench over an evening without passing out, just to enjoy the habitual ritual of it. But dislike the complete absence of the desired taste along it, so it's kind of double-edged with the tendency to rely on the good old taste. Need to look further for a sneaky, tasteless component to add to a herb trench for both sides.

    Care-factor: The whole blend is a far more dusty then the usual stuff when grinded up and this seems to lead to more difficult cleaning process to get rid of the taste. After a trench of feelin fine, no matter at what ratio, it is not enough to brush out and heat out multiple times to get rid of the taste. The scent of peppermint was omnipresent, only dimishing slightly progressing the trench, so it could even carry over two trenches depending on your behavior. Needs ISO cleaning to really get rid of it fast.

    So will I vape it regualry pure? Maybe occasional, need to try it further purely but having a few untested strains lying around and aspecting the cleaning in between, rather not. I will try to vape a few trenches when it's already time for an ISO clean, or when a backup box is getting real someday.

    Will I vape it mixed? I'll try to rely on that when stealth is slighty required and see how it will work out, but I already like the idea of having 2-3 pre mixed trenches in the backup stash.

    Whats left to do? Need to get a herb-familiar odor test person, still not sure wether an expert can smell the odor of the underlaying herb or the blend is too present.

    I am satisfied with the purchase, but not overwhelmed. But it has opened my mind thinking about vaping other natural herbs, don't know if I like that yet. :D

    greetings,
    horst
     
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  22. Herbal Ant

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    Hey all, just got a walnut stem recently, was going to grab some Burt's at the store to wax it. Is there a special kind I should get? Also, should I wax the whole thing or just the end I put my mouth on?
     
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  23. kente777

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    I've been using a 50/50 mix of magic herb (MH) and peppermint for the last week.

    You're right, the peppermint taste takes over, but for me, this is not a bad thing. I love the fact that diluting the MH with another will conserve my precious stash.

    I still get a very nice even brown color to my avb so the mix isn't hurting the conduction process. I do notice a bit more of a bad taste at the end of the trench, but it isn't that intolerable.

    All in all, I am now a proponent of mixing herbs. Now I want to try the products that MF offers.
     
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  24. horst

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    Yeah, I guess that 15$ for a blend is not that expensive either, I think one package are 60g of material and will last a long time.
    I will try to get my hands on some pure damiana, sage, chamomile and lavender to get a glimpse of what the other blends taste like.

    Please report back if you try anything related :)
     
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  25. OF

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    A quick update for the 'free 4/20 stem' faithful. After a nearly comical sting of setbacks (including buying some out of round tube, blowing what turned out to be my last sander belt in fine grit (was sure I had more, of course....) and the final indignation: running out of stamps!), I just got back from stuffing the lot into the outgoing mail at the PO.

    If you don't have yours by now, don't blame me, it's the Post Office.......

    Thanks for the patients, guys, regards to all.

    OF
     
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