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Discussion in 'Portable Vaporizers' started by magicflight, May 16, 2009.

  1. OF

    OF Well-Known Member

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    Listen to the man, he is wise.

    Don't let some random net.guys convince you you're not happy when you are.

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  2. GenYHippie

    GenYHippie Well-Known Member

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    Horst - Wow thanks for all the detail that very helpful. I hadn't considered the moisture content of the bud before im glad you pointed that out. Till yesterday when I opened some of my new bud they had all has very similar springy sticky consistency not much variation but the big bud I ground is extremely crisp by compare.

    Im going to go google and see if I can find a video with a visual compare of the finishing grinder. Turning mine upside down gets it pretty fine but better safe than sorry. Yes your experience with how long a trench last helps me a lot. A light load in my solo lasts around 4 days if im using multiple times a day so we do sound very similar.

    BTW if you don't mine me asking where about from Germany? My brother has lived there over a decade now but my health has never allowed me to travel there.

    Im still new to vape and bud but ive gotten the hang of the solo for basic use. Oh yeah combust would be bad with my asthma. Have you tried vaping mint or something to get the taste out faster?

    Since you mention it are there some batteries you recommend for a light user? Something that doesn't discharge to quick just sitting in my purse for a bit? Great to know about the "wear in" period as well. Id rather go light than combust for sure. I know most people hate the O ring but for little micro pulses it seems like leaving it in might work for me? With my joints im not the most nimble so im afraid I might not be able to break battery contact ne handed.
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  3. Vitolo

    Vitolo Vaporist

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    I see it here every day,
    in blatant and in subtle way,
    misery loves company.. true enuff..
    net.guy wants you to hate on your stuff.
    Haters of joy.. how impolite..[​IMG]
    Listen to OF.. sit back.. take flight!
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  4. Quetzalcoatl

    Quetzalcoatl SPACE GOD

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    Sure thing @GenYHippie. You'll want to be looking for a type of battery called "LSD" 'which stands for "low self-discharge." It's exactly what it sounds like, a battery that has a low self-discharge. The batteries that provide more "oomph" are called HSD batteries, short for high self-discharge. LSD batteries will retain something like 80% total charge after a year on the shelf, but with HSD batteries you can expect them to self-drain much quicker, noticeable within a week of no use. I believe the Eneloop AA's are still good, you'll want minimum 2000mAh to work with the Launch Box. You'll also have to peel the wrappers off the batteries so that the metal body is exposed; this ensures that the ring inside of the battery port in your LB makes contact with the battery body (this is the negative terminal in this vaporizer).
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  5. kente777

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    Lol. They didn't smell anything?
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  6. GenYHippie

    GenYHippie Well-Known Member

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    Hahaha the irony of that acronym on a MJ board :p. Wow yea big difference in the LSD vs the HSD. I remember seeing tha name Eneloop before I thought I had saved some of those to my amazon cart but I couldn't find them, going to go find some to look at. Thank you for the specifics im getting better with the shorthand int he MJ community but the gear is a whole other realm im still learning.

    Thanks for the not on the wrapper. Does that effect anything other than aesthetics I should know about?

    ETA: If its higher than 2000mAh is that an issue?
  7. Quetzalcoatl

    Quetzalcoatl SPACE GOD

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    No problem, I was there once too and the greats like Vito and OF and the rest of the gang helped ease me into it :nod:

    The only real risk with peeling batteries is that since you're exposing the whole body of the battery, it's much easier to cause an unintended short-circuit. Don't do stuff like, say, put a peeled battery with no protection (like those rubber caps MF gives you) into your pocket or purse where it might come into contact with other metallic objects like keys, coins, etc. That's a surefire way to cause a critical battery failure, and when that happens they have a tendency to get extremely hot and vent acid so they don't explode. Simple enough fix for that is to use the battery caps over the positive end (with the nipple) and then you won't be able to complete a circuit, or use the battery cases where you can store 2-4 batteries in them. For what it's worth, @OF loves using some small dram vials to keep metered amounts of flower in, the right size (I believe 1 dram?) will fit in an AA slot, so simple enough to throw 3 AA's in and a little dram with flower. If you don't have battery cases and don't want to purchase any, shoot me a PM with your address, I've got 3 or 4 of them and only use 1, it wouldn't be a problem mailing one out to ya (free of charge) :)
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  8. GenYHippie

    GenYHippie Well-Known Member

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    I feel so fortunate to have had such good experiances int he MJ world online, in dispensaries, on the phone everyone has been very kind to me :). Thanks for the safey tip im assuming the MFLB comes with caps for its batters I would just need extras for whatever I buy? Thanks so much for the offer I will likely hit you up once I place my MFLB order. So kind of you to offer but id happy pay :)

    Also here is what I found real quick after browsing the MFLB tips page and amazon -

    http://www.amazon.com/Capacity-Pre-...sition/dp/B009LU9150/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top

    http://www.amazon.com/Imedion-2400m...4-Pack/dp/B003LWMZ5M/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top

    Will using the higher 2400 cause change the heating or do they just give a longer life to the battery?
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  9. KidFated.

    KidFated. Good Things Come To Those Who Chill

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    Any notice those Blisslights on the MF site? Id load a trench into one of those ;)
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  10. Quetzalcoatl

    Quetzalcoatl SPACE GOD

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    Yep, those look like the right ones. If you look closely, the second link has the batteries already inside the plastic case ;)

    As for the second question, I believe the HSD's will run hotter than LSD's but sacrifice usable time length. At least that was my experience with using the HSD Powerex 2700's, they ran hotter than the (old) stock batteries but died quickly. MF includes custom cells now with their kits, a mix between both which provides nice power and a longer life than the Powerex 2700's. @OF is a battery expert so he knows more about this than I do.

    No worries about the battery case if you're interested, I've been blessed with a lot of help from other FC'ers, both with advice and with actual stuff. Least I can do is pass it along :)
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  11. GenYHippie

    GenYHippie Well-Known Member

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    awesome thanks for confirming :). Ahh I didn't see the case I saw one came with the charger though buying the charger separate seems to cost more. I will have to check if the MFLB standard charger can do those or if I can skip on that and get more batteries instead. I think the LSD's would fit be better lower temp and longer shelf life. Overall buying the pieces separate is cheaper (except for that darn grinder costs a ton!) but im still searching for a good kit price just in case. I think a celtic tree MFLB is in my near future :)
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  12. KidFated.

    KidFated. Good Things Come To Those Who Chill

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    If you wanna see your herbs in the trench, keep that in mind when you get an etched lid. I would know ;)
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  13. GenYHippie

    GenYHippie Well-Known Member

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    Is there an advantage to seeing them or is it preference? It takes me about 4 hits to evens tart to see a color change when using my solo so visual isn't key for me.
  14. KidFated.

    KidFated. Good Things Come To Those Who Chill

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    Its definitely preference.

    To me. Just kinda bugs me? I love my flower of life, just wish i could see that nice pretty green bud after i load it.
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  15. GenYHippie

    GenYHippie Well-Known Member

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    Ah ok. I like the idea of something a little artsy since its a very basic vape
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    Mr Mellish Well-Known Member

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    Thanks to you both. I wouldn't be disappointed if I could speed up the process but I wouldn't be crushed if I couldn't.
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  17. Ano

    Ano FC Lover

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    I get approximately the same results when comparing my finishing grinder with my standard upside down 2-piece grinder.
    I actually got an even finer grind with the cheap "quarters in a pill bottle" trick when I took some time to do it properly, but since I got my finishing grinder I don't bother anymore.
    As for the price, it is regularly on sale on massdrop (got mine from there for around $28 shipped to Europe).

    Edit: found this link previously posted in this thread to add comparison with the pill bottle trick. I used to go even finer than that, but I'm not sure it was really that useful.
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  18. GenYHippie

    GenYHippie Well-Known Member

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    Oh wow that a much better compare than I found! I have another freebie grinder at home I will try but I think I will need to invest in the finisher. I will keep my eyes on massdrop my upside down grind isn't as fine as whats suggested. I do have a few mortars and pestles though if im at home and in a pinch.
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  19. Ano

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    You were too quick to let me edit my previous post, so check it to see the link for the pill bottle comparison ;)

    Also keep in mind that the finishing grinder isn't an absolute necessity to use a MFLB.
    An upside down grinder will provide good results. The FG will just give you better results, but isn't an obligation to enjoy your box.
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  20. GenYHippie

    GenYHippie Well-Known Member

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    Lol yeah I was multi window surfing while I had some quiet. I just checked it out and wow that does a shockingly good job! So its really just your course grind + pill bottle +plus clean coin? One of the dispensaries I went to dispenses in old fashioned pill bottles (instead of shaped ones like target) so I have several. Im pretty handy and know a metals guy who does customs for my dads handy man stuff so I kind of wonder if I could make one like the MF finisher.
  21. Ano

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    Yes, I generally put a couple coins cleaned with some ISO since I use wider containers (I don't have access to pill bottle).
    IIRC someone suggested using glass beads instead of coins if you want to use something cleaner than coins, but I'm myself not sure if I could shake the whole thing without damaging the beads and ending with tiny pieces of glass in my grind.
    I guess the same thing goes with tiny particles from the coins, but I would personally fear more with the risk of breaking the glass beads while shaking (not sure if it really is that much of a risk, just a personal opinion).
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  22. pakalolo

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    I have used glass beads but I had no fear of them breaking. They were pretty large, about 2 cm (~.8 in) in diameter and I only put in one at a time. I prefer a couple of quarters though.
  23. KidFated.

    KidFated. Good Things Come To Those Who Chill

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    So since you guys are discussing the FG and the "shake your shit" trick as my brother has called it, I've recently been using the FG into a pill bottle and then using two nickels inside, turns it into an almost kief powder. Is it necessary? No, but it vapes extremely even and i can get very dark but still keep it all the same color.
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  24. $unnyblaq

    $unnyblaq Well-Known Member

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    I must say nothing compares to the finishing grinder. I have two walnut and maple and i dont regret it. When i go to the movies i dont have to grind i can just put in a few lil nugs crush and ready to vape. I use my mflb+finishing grinder DAILY!! I use it to crush my herbs for any of my vapes and it increases vapor production IMHO. Ima buy the cherry mflb and cherry grinder because i feel the mflb is the best vape i have point blank. Easy to use and clean all the amazing accessories and customers service is awesome. I was given a FG for free from MF who does that?? I love this company i only wish there was a Blackwood MF :'( i can dream. If magic flight had access to eds woods and made the in exotic woods this company would be king. Anyways just wanted to give my opinion for all those on the fence plus the FG has warranty so can't beat it. Vape on brothers!!!!!
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  25. OF

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    A single glass sphere should be pretty tough. Prolly take an expert with proven track record breaking glass, say Nigel or Ataxian?

    I kind of like the sphere idea, it's like ball mills commonly used in industry at one level, but I wonder if you don't get better results, small but more or less intact pieces rather than mashed up? Work it too much and the trichomes take a serious beating and I think are more easily lost? I'd think the ideal shape would be tiny spheres of herb so it would flow freely and heat evenly, but as intact as possible?

    One quick, even pass, through the grinder seems to have an advantage here?

    OF

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