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The Magic-Flight Box

Discussion in 'Portable Vaporizers' started by magicflight, May 16, 2009.

  1. davesmith

    davesmith Well-Known Member

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    cheers @Quetzalcoatl

    Can't wait to get a solo (crimbo i reckon) and really test this PNWT. Its OK on the Launch Box but doesn't really suit it. The draw isn't restricted enough and the design makes it hard to do "sips".

    I drilled a hole in a big glass bottle (One of these [​IMG] ) and stuck the whip through it and thats by far the best water tube I've used with the box. Because the hole for the whip is a bit small it restricts the draw speed perfectly. And the shape means the bottom fills with vapour and you don't notice till you clear the thing and BOOM! RESULT.

    Peace!
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  2. Vitolo

    Vitolo Vaporist

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    In spite of using the Magic Flight water tools (the original, and the "whip" system)...the best water filtered hits I have had using the MFLB were using a home made tool.
    I used a plastic spray bottle, and a traditional MFLB 1 ft whip.
    Last edited: Oct 17, 2013
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  3. axakal

    axakal Well-Known Member

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    you are right, it doesn't really suit the box. it's asking for too much eye-hand coordination. :) i will pass the news about the promotion to a friend of mine, who owns a solo. it looks like a better option for this water tool. i use a 250 ml bent neck ehle with a difuser and it does a pretty good job so far.

  4. weedemon

    weedemon enthusiast

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    just wanted to check in to say I dusted off my old mflb's today and had a session with them! I have 2 one runs cooler than the other...

    it was really nice! took me down memory lane and actually did a good job of getting me where I wanted to be! :)

    It's funny I don't think to use my mflb that often, but it was the first vape that got me really really excited about vapor and how awesome the journey has been.

    They are still working great and I am glad I have them! :)
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  5. Lak666

    Lak666 Well-Known Member

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    In an attempt to distinguish between my batteries visually, i made this:

    http://s18.photobucket.com/user/lachdanan666/story/95033

    Im really happy with my MFLB, but i get the feeling that the batteries and the PA are way too powerful for the box: the flowers are not burning evenly, and hell, the grind is perfect! We are talking powder here, all thanks to the finishing grinder.

    In other news, guess who brought his box on his pocket and some flower powder on his wallet to a flight to London a couple of weeks ago? Best flight ever, literally!

    Guess who is repeating the feat today in a couple of hours?
    Royal Albert Hall, here i come!
  6. llamaman001

    llamaman001 Well-Known Member

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    I thought I vaped in some shady locations brother....I think youve got us all beat!
  7. sachizm

    sachizm New Member

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    Hi
    I bought one of these a year ago and used a bit then forgot about it. The reason was there seemed to be a limit to how stoned I could get. It felt like I would get a small buzz then no matter how much more I used it it wouldn't affect me. I am thinking I may not have been using properly. Does weed have to be 100% dry? Most bud we buy in Australia is still a bit wet. Also maybe I didnt grind it enough, I used the grinder it came with but I'm wondering if grinding to nearly powder would be better.

    The reason I ask is I just came back from Amsterdam and had used a volcano which was great. I am sitting here debating buying one. Does anyone own both and is there a huge difference with the volcano?
    Cheers
  8. OF

    OF Well-Known Member

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    MFLB is a champ at extracting all there is, but in a small load. Volcano can easily over power it. But in terms of getting the good stuff out of the bud and into you, the box is just slower and more fiddly, not second string.

    It's hard to be too dry or too fine. If you can be more of either, by all means try that. What's the old quote, 'one can be neither too thin or too rich'? Like that, only different. Any moisture in the herb when it goes in, any at all, will have to be 'boiled out' first, robbing vaping power. Likewise, since it works by conduction mostly, coarse grinds keep too much of the surface 'untouched' by herb if the grind is coarse at all. You don't need flour fine, but table salt is not a bad target? Or finer.

    I run .12 grams per trench, just keep it below the rails. Get in the habit of shaking between hits to keep fresh stuff in contact and you'll do fine I think.

    By all means consider the new 'glyph' batteries (engraved logo on bottom), they really are much better.....or a PA which makes it a whole other machine. It gives you fuller control of the power.

    Regards,

    OF
  9. skippy

    skippy Well-Known Member

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    Yep, what OF said. I use a coffee grinder..perfect grind for the box.
    I am very excited I noticed during the week the new glyph batteries are now available at the Australian distributor of MFLB. I will be ordering some this week, can't wait to try them.
    Last edited: Oct 20, 2013
  10. Quetzalcoatl

    Quetzalcoatl 200% THC

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    I think you'll like them, especially if all you've used is batteries with your LB.
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  11. skippy

    skippy Well-Known Member

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    Yea I've only ever used batteries. I like being mobile with my box so I don't own a power adapter. I have used the powerex 2700 and now I'm using the Sanyo 2500 and both have been good but from what I've read the MFLB glyph are even better. I'm looking forward to having powerful batteries that can be charged in advance and hold their charge. Although I must say these Sanyo are pretty good, they can be charged in advance and hold their charge much better than the powerex, In my opinion they're better batteries actually.
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  12. Quetzalcoatl

    Quetzalcoatl 200% THC

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    Yeah, because the Powerex are high self-discharge, useful for some applications like flash in photography, but can't hold power like a low self-discharge. IIRC if you leave a fully charged LSD battery on a shelf after a year it should retain 80% of the full charge. The Glyph batteries are a hybrid of both I guess? Long life and strong output. I never left them alone... I've pretty much destroyed them by this point, but it's been over a year now so it's expected.
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  13. jpdnkstr

    jpdnkstr Well-Known Member

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    Been using Sanyo Eneloops for years, with great success. I will try the Glyphs soon though.
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  14. chaseGdaBarber

    chaseGdaBarber New Member

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    Got my mflb some presents this week. Picked up the pa 2.0, concentrate trays, a titanium space case and some powerex 2700 mah and I was wondering two things. Are the titanium space cases actually titanium or do they just say that and can the powerex 2700 be charged w my magic flight charger? Thanks in advance even though my questions may be dumb.
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    2 Paces Well-Known Member

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    Yes.
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  16. Vitolo

    Vitolo Vaporist

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    Titanium Space Cases are regular Space Cases with a coating of titanium over their entirety.
  17. escierdanyc

    escierdanyc Active Member

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    How do the space cases compare to the finishing grinder?
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    Quetzalcoatl 200% THC

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    The finishing grinder will grind finer. The space case grinds more.
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  19. Vicki

    Vicki Herbal Alchemist

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    They are also completely different types of grinders. The finishing grinder is similar to the credit card style grinders, but 1000 times better. A Space Case is just a regular grinder.
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  20. nopartofme

    nopartofme               

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    Also the finishing grinder is much pickier about needing dry herb, like the launch box itself. I pre-grind my herb in a 4-piece and use the finishing grinder when it's time to vape.
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  21. max

    max This space available Staff Member

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    They call it titanium, but it's just colored annodizing. Doesn't even hold up very well to scratching. IMO the plain aluminum SC holds its looks longer. And like any other standard hand grinder, it's a good 'starter grinder' for the LB, but the finishing grinder is just that- specifically designed to provide the fine grind that the LB likes, and also designed to sit right on top during the grind process- truly a vape specific grinder.

    And really, if the herb you're grinding for the LB isn't dry, you're not gonna get a fine grind no matter what you use.
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  22. nopartofme

    nopartofme               

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    Yes good point. In my case it's not an issue because I'm not looking for a fine grind in the 4-piece in the first place.

    This means it needs to be cleaned sooner, but soaking the whole thing in ISO isn't a problem. Cleaning the finishing grinder is more of a challenge.
    Last edited: Oct 21, 2013
  23. Willeh

    Willeh Well-Known Member

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    I use my finishing grinder for all my grinding (It clicks into my sublimator spoon nicely too), and I've never needed to clean it. When too much gunk gets caked on the grater surface, I just grind hard with nothing in it and it comes completely clean in one good crank. Aside from brushing the kief into your bowl in the bottom, I don't think any cleaning is necessary unless your material is absolutely soaking wet. I have found it to grind moist buds just fine too though, just takes a little more elbow grease.
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  24. nopartofme

    nopartofme               

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    That's cool! Is that part of the sublimator kit or a third party accessory? I don't see it on their website.
    Last edited: Oct 21, 2013
  25. tony yayo

    tony yayo Active Member

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    Holy crap! Just came across this video tor the 1st time. Sorry if its bee posted before but I wasnt going back almost 900 pages! Anyway, tried this guys technique and wow! I only ever felt like this from the Volcano. Kills a trench in 3 tokes but I coughed on every hit. Try it! ok, for Some reason I Can't link it but go to YouTube and Search for "keys to Perfect Vaporization" trust me !

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