The Magic-Flight Box

Right on, thank you!

Right on, thank you!

So, Should I be actually leaving my jar open letting my bud dry out before whichever method of grinding?

depends on how dry your herb is to start with. the action of grinding it will dry it out since it exposes more surface to the air.

Since it seems like not many around here have a finishing grinder, I'd like to say that I love mine. Just don't give it wet herb. Keep it dry and it works great! The cheese-grater grind gives a consistency that really hits quick and great from the start, in my experience. The lip and square nature of the lid makes it easy to turn, and the design looks really classy as well, in my opinion. All this without mentioning that it grinds right into the trench! It is a little pricy, but the little thing even has a lifetime warranty of its own… I think it's a great buy if you've got the spare cash for it.

In my experience you can't go better than a coffee grinder for nice fine powder form.

Hello again, welcome to all the fun.....

Name change should be possible in most systems, it takes clout of course, contact any of the Moderators by PM, they'll set you right or pass you to the guy who will.

I think keeping it 'well cured' (not so damp it risks mold) is OK, but before grinding you want it dry enough so it doesn't gum up in the grinder. With the interlocking fingers kind it makes it very hard to turn and cuts ragged, it can gum up the coffee grinders (which are great IMO as well). I usually give it a few hours after grinding as well before I seal it again.

Since we're talking MFLB here, here's what I do..... A gram or two at a time I grind in the coffee grinder and let it air until it flows freely in the little tin I use. I then load a series of on dram vials with 1/8 gram each, premeasured trenches. I find it's really fast (20 seconds typically each) to scoop out just under the mark then add up into range. I have a box of vials and a small plastic funnel to go with the scoop. They weigh just under ten grams total, they go on the scale, I zero it out, scoop it in and add enough extra to get the reading between .120 and .130 grams. Change the funnel to the next, zero the scale, add the scoop, trim the weight, change the funnel..... In a few minutes preloaded trenches for the week are ready to go. Makes it real easy to plan, 3 vials with 2 batteries is easy to meet for me.

http://www.specialtybottle.com/1dramamberglassvialwblackcap.aspx

They also sell clear of course, along with a bunch of other neat stuff, but I kinda like the amber.

Best wishes

OF

Edit: BTW you'll notice there's an 'edit' button at the bottom of your posts (only) for about 4 hours after you post? Protocol around here is to use that function to add to an existing post rather than make more than one in a row. That's how I just added this edit in fact. No big deal, but you will get called out for it. OF

cool i didn't know that... maybe now i'll get one some day ha... i can imagine getting it and hardly using it though haa.. still be cool to have. gotta love that lifetime warranty

I'd guess a lot of guys buy them that way, many on a lark in fact. However, if you read this thread you'll find lots of them really come to like the humble box. Not only does it have a neat little charm all it's own but it can perform surprisingly well. Few of us are willing to part with ours. Many of us bought backups for exotic wood boxes for special occasions when we could have bought 'the next vape'.

Your chances of regretting it are IMO small.

OF

i'm sure i wouldn't regret it even if i didn't use it... those grinders are a cool looking, and it would complete my LB set up nice.

Well... if we're changing names... I have a request...

Anyway... that old rule of thumb on the condition of my herb. If it rips, tears, or shreds... its too wet. If its got that little bit of crunch, IMO, the MF Nano grinder is more than enough. If I didn't have that consistency in the herb, then I do the same as OF, though I would probably end up splurging for the finishing grinder.

Though, I usually load my MFLB with the stuff, on the bottom of the containers, I store my usual grind in. That stuff, is damn close to kief, since I don't separate.

Kind of like this.

(This is OG, White Knight and Rattlesnake)

I've been getting pretty decent results with my grinders and this "Red Dragon" bud (I think that's what it was called?) lately. The stuff is bone dry, just to my liking, and apparently to the grinder and my box's liking as well. No need to get the coffee grinder out this time. I'll get pictures in a bit, my phone died earlier for the first time in months and I just put it to charge.

i usually just grind average and let it air dry out.. then i jar it and finger grind it super fine when i need it... my grinders nothing special its just some acrylic pirymid tooth grinder... i got that grinder like ten years ago haha and never needed more.. it's actually the only grinder iv'e ever owned.. i used to mostly hand grind my bud when i used to roll...

For those of you who own the WPA and the WPW, could you please compare the two? I'm thinking about picking up the WPW (if MF ever calls me back about placing an order...ahem), but only if it is an improvement over the WPA.

Thanks in advance.

The old-school WPA relies on you lining the intake hole with the draw hole of the box. Not really a problem, but the way the WPA is angled, it works best for pieces with the 45 degree downstem joint. If you have a 90 degree piece the WPA is angled upwards so some of the bud might fall to the end of the box and not be totally vaporized. It also prevents you from seeing the content.

The new (and definitely improved!) WPW is a better piece I think. It's the GonG and wooden pyramid that hold the end of a whip with the nub for your box. No more aligning the hole, just plug it in, attach to the downstem, and you're good to go. You can buy some tubing and cut out a piece to your liking and use that instead, if you want a shorter or longer piece. Oh, by the way, the WPW comes apart. You can slide the GonG attachment off from the wooden logo pyramid, and then remove the pyramid as well and you've got their whip attachment with two short nubs. It's 2 in 1.

I haven't bothered with the old WPA since getting this one for free in the contest. They definitely nailed it second time around.

Oh man. That's a tough one. I used to HATE the WPA. However, now that I've built up a completely different glass collection, it depends on what I'm using.

Some pieces that its easy for me to see the WPA and hold the MFLB up to it... I much prefer it. Otherwise I'll choose the whip. However, the style perc can play into that also.

My Leviathan Lattice bubbler for instance, can milk a NICE hit off the WPA. Hook up a whip, its kind of weak. Try to use the WPA with my big 22" tube, no go. Hook up a whip... I can kinda milk it (it ain't easy).

I do really like, especially the smaller tubing on the WPW. Makes it much easier to deal with, than the 1/4" ID stuff. I love the wood piece/GonG attachment. Only real knock I have on it, was I was hoping they would use a shorty glass stem.

I like the idea of bottling trenches. Do I understand correctly that the 1 dram holds 3 trenches? I like the green 5/8 dram since I am only interested in bottling 1 trench.

I just looked at your post again and you said 3 vials and two batteries so I'm guessing one trench per vial. Will 1 trench fit into the 5/8 dram? It is 1 inch tall as opposed to 1.75".

Okay, duh, you clearly say between .120g and .130g per vial, but my question about the 5/8 dram still stands.

Yes, one trench per. No guessing in the field, you can do it in the dark even. Most loads will fit the 5/8 dram ones but I find the extra space really helps. Shake it a bit before opening and it flows out easily. The vials fit into most AA battery cases, I carry one with two vials and two batteries and a load in the box. Small in the pocket, 3 guaranteed trenches on tap. Very handy. I'll also carry both loose too, but the box makes it handy.

Also handy, BTW is this case:
http://www.amazon.com/Case-Logic-TB...959406&sr=8-2&keywords=case logic camera case

which seems to have gone up in price by nearly two bucks since August when last I bought some.....I may be recommending it too much?

OF

Thanks OF. I can see the extra space in the vial being advantageous during shaking, and the fact that they fit perfectly into a battery case is a huge bonus. The 1 dram it is.

You're very welcome, I bet you like it too. Once I had a scoop and funnel figured out I can load a week's worth of vials easily and have not had an under or over filled trench since.

Best wishes.

OF

hey all I bought some new batteries cause my original Mflb batteries are shot, and I can't seem to get them to work. I went to Walmart and bought some Energizer recharge 2300mah, charged with the original charger I got with my Mflb. I peeled the label and glue off, they won't work. any help?
It'd be really appreciated, thanks.

How tight are they? The ground ring has to be snug, which doesn't happen on all brands.

Do you see any light at all?

OF

I don't know, some batteries are just crap. I bought some that were supposed to be 2400 and they failed after two tokes on a trench. They just didn't cut it. I would only recommend the MFLB stock batteries or powerex, they're the only ones I've had success with.

i've only used eneloops and have no reason to complain.

Still hate that WPA! Haha. I gave mine away to someone who used em. I think the new whip is worlds better. However, ya caught me, Im using the MFLB dry right now, with the wooden stem

This thread has inspired me to dust off my MFLB. This little guy used to help me through some pretty tough days at the office.

In recent days I have done the same. I have been lurking the thread for the last 20 or so pages. I just picked up 4 fresh Powerex batts and a La Crosse charger. Yesterday I decided to use the box exclusively and I was mighty impressed. I had no desire to reach for any of my other vapes and I was thoroughly satisfied for the entire evening. I was actually quite amazed at the performance. And my technique and general vaporization knowledge has come a long ways from when I first purchased it which greatly added to the enjoyment.

I have a new found respect for the box. In fact its the only thing that I left the house with this morning!