The Magic-Flight Box

Thanks to all of you here, the commissioning of my LB was a success. Finely ground herb, a full trench, a 5 second warm up, and a nice slow draw... easy peasy. I used it native and will continue to use it that way. I can see the value in the new finishing grinder for one who uses the box lightly. The big grinder I have doesn't really achieve a fine enough particle size and getting it from the grinder into the trench is a precarious operation. I like the idea of pinching off a few bits and grinding right into the box as needed. My birthday is coming up in a couple of months if I can wait that long ;~)

All of my responses took ~3 days... you really get an immediate auto reply response?... it must be because i always just email customer service instead of warranty haa... that's the email address in my email contacts ha. if that's the case then i'll go for the immediate response next time...

Cool. That would, I think, explain the very different results you're reporting. Not that others don't have similar issues from time to time, it just seems like most of them find the response in spam folders (who knows how that happens?). I think very few (if any, as I suspect) are ignored for long. Unlike some, MF puts a lot of effort into good Customer Support, it would be shortsighted indeed to negate that with even a few lame cases. Hopefully you're on the road to satisfaction.

Misunderstanding beats negligence or malice.

Thanks for the word, good luck.

OF

ya that's what i figure the difference is... this is the first iv'e heard about the "auto response"... i would have used it sooner if i had realized(just finished warranty process ~a week ago). i knew about the warranty department but i always had the customer service email on hand and had always used it before so i kept on... didn't think how it would expedite things but can see how it would... So that must be why they say to email the warranty department ha... even using the customer service email though i found them to be as quick as they could... the service is unmatched so far for me.

this info would have come in handy during my month long warranty process w/ MF.. where i was playing email tag due to a mix up(not their fault). my package arrived on time in a few days but there was a post office issue and got resent and sat in san deigo for the rest of the month and just got sent back out to me after the holidays ha...

how does the rez block work for you i have always been curious about that stuff

Very well, actually. I paid $6.99 for the 4 ounce bottle and only need to use 2.5ml for my little tube. The water does get cloudy/particulate floating inside after some use, but that's just the resin that would have built up inside of it. Obviously you can't save the vapor resin buildup like you could with an ISO wash, but it keeps my piece impressively clean. All I need to do is dump out the RezBlock water and give it a rinse with clean water and it looks almost as good as new. I'm talking like at least 95% clean after just doing a dump and wash. There was only a small bit of resin buildup inside of the direct inject joint, up to where the RezBlock was. Any bit of the glass touching it won't get buildup. Aside from the DI joint, past the bent part of my piece also gets a small amount of buildup but that's easily taken care of.

I'll more than likely end up getting the concentrated RezBlock as well as trying to make my own. It also doesn't seem to impart any taste into my vapor, and I haven't noticed much if any decrease in potency, although I'll have to keep testing that once I get more flower.


Edit: Also regarding emails, I've always had good results with MF. In fact, just two days ago on the 13th I emailed them asking what the next step was in getting the warranty transferred from my old box to new one. I received a full reply at 7:50pm the 15th. That's about a day and a half, right in the middle of the 1-3 day response time I expected.

Has anyone ever used a temperature gun/infrared thermometer to measure the heat of the LB? Mine is running cold, but I don't know how cold. All I know is that I have to crank up my PA to get the load in the trench browned even a little. I emailed MF and asked for a warranty claim. They responded (quickly as a matter of fact-now if I can get them to contact me about a special purchase I want to make).

But I digress...

Anyway, MF said that a cold box isn't covered under the functional warranty if it's getting in the range of 370-410 degrees. Well, that got me thinking: what if I could actually measure the temp of the box? The only way I can think of to do that would be with something like this:

http://www.amazon.com/HDE-Temperature-Infrared-Thermometer-Laser/dp/B002YE3FS4

Any thoughts?

Thanks in advance.

PS--I wanted to add the above link to my post using the "add/edit link" button from the tool bar, but the button isn't lit up so I can't click it. What's up with that?

Is anyone else having to wait a long time for responses from magic-flight? I emailed their warranty department a week ago and still haven't received a response. Is this normal? I'd really like to get a replacement or repair as there is a tear in my screen and it's causing uneven heating and combustion.

Did you use the form on this page?

magic-flight.com/contact.php

Yes, I did. However, it's a moot point. They finally got back to me today. Thank you anyways for the help.

thats awesome i dont really care about re collecting anything im in nor cal so everything is in abundance here, so thats perfect. Thats cool it doesnt mess with the taste at all thats what i was most worried about maybe ill give it a try now. Especially for my flower pipes

The MFLB likes a fine grind, I sometimes use a whirly blade coffee grinder.

I have multiple coffee grinders but they are all of the burr variety. I don't let a whirley blade near my home-roasted beans. If I'm not mistaken, burr grinders don't really work for herb. I can procure a cheap whirley blade. I only grind small amounts (<g) would that work?

Right all around. Burr grinders just jam, I regularly use my 'cheap whirley blade' grinder on a gram or so at a time.

However, check this guy out:
http://www.amazon.com/OFFERING-SHIPPING-Electric-Aluminum-BATTERIES/dp/B000P15LX0/ref=pd_sim_k_1

I have a similar one and it works very well for gram and sub gram loads. Chops very fine. It tends to jam if you feed it too much, but it does a good job and it sure is handy......

OF

I'm with you on the grinders. I have a decent burr grinder for espresso and just use a cheapy whirly blade grinder for herb. I shake it while i grind the herb and use a fine brush to sweep out the trichomes.

Thanks for the info guys. Haha on a side note, a guy just rode by me on a bike with pot leaf boxers sticking out of the top of his pants.

I'm partial to a $14 Hamilton Beach grinder I bought at Wally. This'll be the one I have. Works perfectly with a range of 1-4 grams that I've tried out personally. I can get it down to a powder, turn it over, and take the lid off full of my herb. Then I can scrape off all the delicious kief that sticks to the lid and get an ass-kicking crazy-good trench

That does sound delicious! Do I have to do anything special once it's ground in terms of storage?

Usually what I'll do is break up my bud into smaller pieces, varying in size from a dime to a nickel. I'll let the flower sit out for an hour or so to dry out, and then grind it. The grind seems to get a bit of residual moisture out, so after I grind it I'll dump it out into a small tray to dry out a bit more, then I'll just put it in the plastic jars that my stuff comes in. The biggest thing to worry about when storing your bud is to make sure it's not damp or anything. Damp environments attract molds, which probably won't get you high and might even get you sick/kill you if it's a toxic mold. I've never had problems with it molding post-grind, but like I said I like to let it sit out for a bit to dry out. After it's in the jar and all, I shake it a few times. I've noticed that it seems to stick to itself a bit in the jar when I agitate it, but after a day or so it dries out and takes on a consistency of sand. I "burp" the air out maybe once or twice the day I grind it all up, and the day after (by burp I mean open it so that there's air exchange.) This applies more to higher quantities being processed, the odd gram in there doesn't have as much moisture or chance of molding compared to the 4-8 grams I usually grind in one go.

Sorry for the length, I tried to be detailed. If you need any further clarification, I'd be happy to help

You're instructions are crystal clear, thank you for the detail. I have a couple more questions. When I agitate the box after a hit, quite vigorously I might add, some of the material stays stuck in the corners of the trench anyway, not much, just a little. I don't bother opening the lid and loosening it. Is this an indication that the herb is not dry enough, or just standard ops in the box. I also notice some of the contents of the trench getting into the air channel under the lid, again just a tiny bit. This is trivial I'm sure but I thought I would just put it out there. Maybe there is some technique in the snapping of the wrist while shaking in triads :~)

Sounds run of the mill. I think what happens is that as the trichomes vaporize, the plant wax that comprises the trichomes "melts" and becomes a bit sticky. A few hits farther down the line, when it starts to fully brown, it stop sticking for me. I assume this is the point where the plant waxes have vaporized and broken down enough to not be an issue. I get the same thing happening with the first hit of a trench, I'll twist and turn and shake it like I'm having a seizure, but there's a layer of herb at the bottom touching the screen that seems to stick. What I've found is that if I give it a bit more juice on the second hit than the first, it "unsticks" itself. My old and new box does it, regardless of the strain I use. Like I said, after the second or third hit it stops being an issue. I have not noticed any screen damage occur because of this. In fact, when I can "afford" it, I like to load trenches of just kief. Takes less hits to get me going than it does with flower, let me tell ya...

As for material getting into the air channel, yeah that's due to the recessed form of the air channel. I think it was OF that told me that you can place a small strip of electrical tape at the end of it closest to the trench and it will prevent about 95% of the material from getting through there, but it doesn't seem to restrict the air flow when I draw. This is how mine was configured.

Again, thanks for the detailed response and the sharp pic. I may try the tape mod if I find the crumbs in the channel bother me too much. I apologize for all the questions, I am just geeking out on my new toy.

Don't be sorry, I was asking the same questions when I first found this site

I'll second that. I have the exact same grinder. I like how the bowl of the grinder comes out. I bought a small cheapo paint brush & I use it to get all the goodies out and into my LB. Yummy stuff.

The part that holds the blades comes off the grinder base as well, which is a plus IMO. Just grind up my stuff, turn it upside down, tap it a few times to knock it all off, spread to dry, and start brushing down the blade part. It's a fun little ritual, although for smaller quantities (up to ~2g) I like to use my 2 piece Space Case.