The Magic-Flight Box

Discussion in 'Portable Vaporizers' started by magicflight, May 16, 2009.

  1. BigDaddyVapor @BigDogJunction

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    Hey all. Know I just got back, but got a nasty blow last night. Hopefully, its not my first thought... Kidney stone. You don't ever want to have one, trust me. Mostly still in the nauseous stage, so it might just be the crud going around. However, the tight band feeling around my midsection says otherwise. So... I'm not dead, if I end up being scarce.

    OF, I didn't forget. I'll try and catch up, later.

    On topic: after my tussle with the PA, I have actually rediscovered the pure joy of the box, being used as it was originally designed. I'm also getting very favorable results with the batteries and water pieces. Its actually, a much more natural feel for me, w/o the PA.
  2. User7 New Member

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    Just tried the PA properly for the first time and this thing beats batteries hands down.

    I put a mediocre amount of material in the trench, set the PA to about half, vaped off the first "tasty" vapors, this took a while to vaporize (hey, its good stuff :p) and it certainly turns the material darker quicker and delivers thicker vapor than batteries possibly can, even on HALF!

    How? Well because the very moment you start using a battery, it gets cooler and cooler. Those batteries might be made as best as possible to deliver continuous power, but the fact is they don't.

    The PA however is amazing as far as the heat is concerned. After taking ages vaping on half, I gave it a break to let the PA cool a bit (although it wasn't too hot to hold onto) and turned it up to full. As I got the last wisps off the material on full heat, I emptied the material out onto my hand, it was BLACK! Not "very dark brown" but actually black. It wasn't even burnt though - it would be grey and ash-like and wasn't ;)

    Damn, this is always what I wanted my batteries to do, but I could never justify using 2 full batteries to do it.

    Thats the bottom line for me - to turn the material black I would need to use up about 2 batteries to do that. The PA does it pretty fast once you crank it up towards the end of the vaping. Its not like a Volcano, but then its nothing like as expensive and for its size and with this PA, will get you just as high as a volcano I bet!

    You don't know what you're missing if you don't have a PA with your MFLB. Can't believe I never got one sooner. If I went back in time I would have bought the PA along with the MFLB :D

    PS If anyone is wondering, no that isn't me in the avatar, I just couldn't be arsed to upload anything else. Dunno who it is. Lets pretend its me.
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  3. pakalolo RoboMod v3.07 (stable)

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    I assume you mean "maintain a constant voltage," which they in fact do throughout most of their discharge cycle. NiMH batteries drop a small percentage at the beginning of a discharge cycle, then they flatten out and stay there until they fall off a cliff near the end.

    I agree with your enthusiasm for the PA. It does beat batteries in every way except portability.
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  4. vapirtoo Active Member

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    When I first got the PA, I felt that I was tethered to the wall socket
    kind of like a kite. :(
    After using the PA and getting ripped, :ko: I forgot about the tether and
    batts for a long while.
    Summertime and vacations brought me back to the batts, and I was amazed
    at how hot they were compared to my usual low PA setting.

    I had to pull harder and quicker to avoid the higher temps which was a good
    thing while out in public.

    Batts or PA, I still love this little vape after two years
    of daily driving this thing.

    I also find that the skill set needed to maximize this vape allows
    us to really nail the vapor technique of other vaporizers.
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  5. Vicki Herbal Alchemist

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    That happened to me too. I had to be careful, and almost combusted once. :uhoh:
  6. vapirtoo Active Member

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    HaHa, so much for stealth in the olive garden's bathroom. :doh:
  7. Vicki Herbal Alchemist

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    It didn't happen in the Olive Garden bathroom. It happened in the car.
  8. poonman Well-Known Member

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    Just finished corresponding with K from MF .
    He tells me that , he was able to intercept ,
    and ship my replacement LB and PA together .

    Excellent Customer Service .

    And now ...back to listening to Tom Petty .
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  9. Vicki Herbal Alchemist

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    Magic Flight is great like that! Glad you get your PA with your replacement LB! :)
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  10. sundaddy Member

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    You haven't got bitten by any mosquitos lately, have you?
  11. BigDaddyVapor @BigDogJunction

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    Actually, the one pest we don't really have around here, are them.

    I've had 2 kidney stones that haven't passed and required surgery. The tight band feeling around my midsection, is a bad sign. Only time that's happened, are the 2 that didn't pass.
  12. rei New Member

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    I bought a Launch Box about a year ago but dont use it often. I find the batteries rarely last long enough to toast an entire load - is this likely a problem with my batteries, the charger, the box, or my grind? I'm not really sure the point of failure here. I'm leaning towards batteries or charger because i find if i leave the batteries on the charger after they hit full they dont stay near max, like I can take them off and put them back on and they'll be considered 'charging' again.
  13. kingofnull ace

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    Probably batteries. I've only run into problems with batteries after they've been used many many times. Did yours ever work adequately?
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  14. rei New Member

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    it's gotten me high, but compared to my friends ive never had the results he's had with his
  15. kingofnull ace

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    MFLB is a technique driven device IMO, and you probably won't get great results until you get the technique down. It should be easy to tell if the batteries are the issue - buy another set and test them out. You'll likely want more batteries anyways.

    Perhaps your friend has stronger batteries?

    My batteries will engage the charge light if removed and replaced after charging also.
  16. Vitolo Vaporist

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    Be well, BDV!
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  17. rei New Member

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    When I say results I also mean in regards to actual colouration of the bud in the chamber, he can blacken his, I can at best muddy brown mine. That could be technique, but I've really tried a lot at this point.


    http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=75344&vpn=HR-3UWXA4A&manufacture=Sanyo
    Are these batteries solid? The MFLB faq says Eneloop is a good pick especially for holding charge, but im concerned with the 2500 rating. Thoughts?

    EDIT: Search is my friend, they seem legit. Thanks a lot everyone
  18. Vitolo Vaporist

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    You need low discharge (LD) batteries. The 2500s pictured appear to be HD batteries.
    If they are HD they will work, but the life span will be short.
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  19. pakalolo RoboMod v3.07 (stable)

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    This is a sign of a cold LB. Try the procedure described in How can I tell if my Box is running too cool?

    The rating you've quoted is MaH, which is a measure of how long the battery will last. 2500 is a good rating; the Imedion stock batteries are 2400 MaH.

    I don't agree with Vitolo that you need LSD batteries, but he is right about the lifespan of HSD batteries being shorter. If you use HSD batteries every day, you might choose them because they tend to last a bit longer and deliver a bit more power to the screen. If you don't use them daily, they will probably have a short lifespan.
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  20. Vitolo Vaporist

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    True enough, pakalolo...
    Correction- Need is a strong word.... You do not "NEED" LD Batteries, they simply have a much greater life expectancy!
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  21. OF Well-Known Member

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    Excellent point. As a group we've lately become quite casual with this word. "XXX needs to YYY" has become a substitute for 'I think it might be a good idea if....'.

    For sure an unusual happening for our Vitolo, usually the master of clear communications. Bet it's a long time before it happens again......

    IMO he remains "The Sage of the High Desert".

    OF
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  22. matthend Active Member

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    Well made another convert. About two weeks ago, my buddy broke down and ordered his box and has loved it ever since. he called me this morning and I just ordered 2 PA'a to save on shipping!!:rockon:

    I really love the new exotic wood boxes... beautiful!!!!
  23. rei New Member

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    Wouldn't the fact that they're pre charged (and Eneloops which I thought by and large were LSD) suggest they're LSD?
  24. MattyGTwenty3 Relaxin'

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    I own 8 of the Sanyo 2500 XX batteries. They are in fact LSD, not HSD.
    If you want LSD batteries with capacity similar to HSD then definitely go with the Sanyo XX 2500's.
  25. Quetzalcoatl drop beats and bhombs

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    Congrats matthend, you'll find the PA changes the box once again, going from a stealthy option to a small (yet capable) beast. I can get some mighty foggy bong-loads with the vape and some finely ground material. I mean I can get them with batteries anyways, but it's just quicker and more fulfilling using the PA.

    Today's sessions brought to you by the OG's and batteries! Earth/Diablo OG and a speck of Chocolope here and there for some nice sativa.

    Quick question, those that are rocking the batteries, how many trenches are you seeing on average per battery? Wanted to highlight something here, I mean stock/aftermarket batteries.

    Edit: Vito, I ended up watching another video of yours with a different vaporizer... where the hell do you hide all that vapor? You're getting RIDICULOUS rips, with the LB and other vaporizers (saw the life saber + wand hash video, WOW) !!

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