Thank you again for sharing your knowledge. Nothing's ever easy is it? Would you happen to have a build thread on your battery pack somewhere? Do you know how the wiring from the box to the LB works? I'm pretty sure I have two that the electronics work, but it loses connection at the dummy battery. I would like to see if I could make my own end and splice it into one and see if I could get one working again. I don't understand what the third wire goes to, I would assume the white and black wires being power for the rails. Does the switch tap off of one of these and send a signal back to the box? But then again you need power to the switch, so I doubt that is how it works. I was informed that I have surpassed the limit they are willing to warranty, the one they are sending me now is my last replacement. The LB is my first too. I thought it was an economical way to see if I would prefer vaping, as combusting was taking it's toll on me. I also like the look and feel of it. But if I have to rely on batteries, I will move on also. I do think you are on to something as they are falling behind with technology. I'm an old guy and I like the simplicity and the fact that I control it. But I'm sure younger people want all the technology you could stuff into a vape. I usually smoke by myself, so the ritual of the LB is right up my alley, but for smoking with others, it's a PITA to use. I'm sure like many of you, I will be moving on to something newer and more convenient. I'm sure i will always have a spot in my hear for the LB, but if I wind up getting screwed on the PA I will never forget that either.