Discussion in 'Portable Vaporizers' started by Max Jitter, Sep 24, 2010.
fuck combustion...until it tries to fuck you. i do want to buy a new lighter for no logical reason
TAS strikes again. The good news is this IS a really good one.
I am definitely going to order a few of those lighters. They look awesome!
July 4th sale 15% off, I'm a bit poor this time round but should be of interest to someone!
I am in favor of the new Jobon lighter. It is perfect for the Lotus. Very comfortable to use and a nice direct flame, very controllable. I highly recommend, best torch I have used, especially for the Lotus!
Have a great weekend everyone!
I've been in need of a good torch for awhile since the cheap-o one I got at a local smoke shop is shit and my bernzomatic hand torch is kinda overkill. I was expecting a long and tedious search for a quality lighter, but, lo and behold, the proprietors of this fine product have done the leg work for me. Can't wait to see how well it pairs with the lotus.
I hope you like it. I find that it's a perfect match for the Lotus.
Just tried my new Lotus for the first time!
i got an amazingly great flavor in my first 3 hits but no visible cloud, 4th hit i was abit more aggressive with the torch and got an insanely long thick cloud but hardly any flavor, 5th somewhere inbetween the two.. amazing vape because i can already feel the effects and its still green inside!
Any tips on how to get visible cloud with the amazing taste at once.. also after the first heat up of four seconds in the middle, am i supposed to do a 4 second heat up before every rip or is it just for the first rip?
I only do the pre-heat thing on the initial draw. You should be able to get large clouds from the get-go. This takes some practice and technique with the torch. The best way is to use the Lotus through water or a j-hook stem where you can see the vapor develop. That way it becomes sort of intuitive as you see the vapor develop and get thicker until you will know you need to back off the heat or speed up your draw.
It just takes some practice, but the water pipe definitely helped me. I have a small bubbler that I used to use with it and that worked great. Now, I actually use it with a j-hook and an ashcatcher 90% of the time. That works even better imo, at least for me.
Digging the new Jobon torch! This thing looks and feels exquisite, especially for $12! The flame is comparable to what I get with my Bernzomatic micro torch, but in a smaller, more micro form. It doesn't take a lot of effort to press the trigger, and the flame lock is super easy to set.
My one concern, considering the price tag, is that it's gonna crap out at some point in the not too future. So far, though, there's nothing about it to indicate that it will.
I agree with you. It is the best torch I have used. I probably have 5-6 other torches laying around and I have had problems with most of them. I think I will go back and get a few more. Cant beat this one for the price.
Is my Lotus plate okay? Had it less then two weeks and it has a line/dent kinda thing on it, was working fine yesterday but something that keeps happening is, i fill it a little less then half way, once i get to my 5th round of cloud chasing on it during a session, i get NO vapor, which must mean ive used up what the herb had to offer but none of my other vapes really do this? May need to fill more, but is my heat plate okay?
looks fine to me
I haven't seen a straight line bend like that before and it will get change shape with age but if it functions fine then you're OK. There's also a 1 year warrantee on the hot plate if needed.
I would go by herb color instead of cloud size, dark brown and it's done.
Guys, any advice, the first hit i get pure flavor barely any clouds, second cloud and flavor, third clouds and vapor, forth nothing, fifth nothing, its like after three hits i get no more vape every time?
...i usually finish a bowl in one hit... not sure if that helps?
Well first hit needs a long heat up...7-10 seconds with the tip of the inner flame, properly adjusted to the right length. Begin drawing at 7 sec and go slow till you start getting flavor. Then pull the flame back some and increase draw rate to avoid combustion but maintain some heat until you feel you've got a good hit.
As for your 5 hit problem, that's pretty normal IME, especially packed half full. This thing vapes really well and thus there's a smaller hit/load ratio. You can try to hold the flame a bit longer on your later hits to get a more complete extraction, but you'll have to be very careful not to combust. I personally just save whatever negligible material may be left in there for my ABV jar, which I use for edibles.
EDIT: Oh, and make sure you're stirring between hits.
The straight line looks unusual but the plate does always change with use.
There's a one year warranty on the plate from breakage, which is usually cracking, when it happens.
I think you should decide how done the herb is by its color, not the cloud size.
Ive just tried again, the first two hits after a 5 second heat up is giving me light clouds and tastyness, the third hit im getting no vapor! 2 small thin hits and no more vapor, im trying to get vapor and heating it so much im starting to taste metal, i dont know what im doing wrong
Edit:Come to thinm of it, i got the same metal taste yesterday when the same vapor production problem occured, the taste lingers in the mouth for a while
You should not have/do not want any kind of metallic taste. I assume that you had a very large (too large) red hot spot on the plate.
1 What is the color of the herb after the 2nd hit? If it is dark brown then it's done.
2 If the herb color is still green then I would say to slow down your inhale speed. A full breath should take to the count of 10, which is a very slow inhale.
How can you not be combusting with all that heat? Draw slower perhaps......
Hey all. So I got a second-hand Lotus recently, and have been using it quite a bit. Just wanted to stop by and say it has been just fantastic. I have had 0 learning curve with this guy, I just heat the plate until it gets a little red, and then I just move the flame around the center trying to keep the little bit of red moving around. Works perfect that way, every time. Real easy to gauge your hit just by feel, and have been able to extract all the way to dark brown with very little effort.
The flavor with this guy is just off the charts good. Now I get it when people always rave about that aspect. Possibly the tastiest of my butane vapes, but I need to give it a couple more months to make sure it isn't a honeymoon effect.
Bowl is a little large, but works best imo when packed loose about halfway. This makes an average load of maybe .1 or a little less, so a touch less efficient than something like the vapcap, but by no means an herb hog. Definitely requires a bit of stirring to get the most out of a load, but hey, the stirrer is built right into the cap, so I have never had a more convenient time with that aspect. Usually I have some tool that I need to find or keep with the vape. So having it built into the design is perfect.
Overall, this little lady is quick becoming a favorite. Thanks again to @steama for the secondhand pickup and thanks @Max Jitter for making such a fantastic vaporizer. I'll be sure to grab a few extra plates from you pretty soon.
I think I will keep using it for a few more months and come back with a comparison post between the rest of my butane vapes. Cheers though!
Asking myself the same question because there is ALOT of heat and its never roasted, mostly light brown mixed with green, this is why im worried, lots of heat but green and brown herb with little cloud, id say i have good technique too, heat it in the middle with the inner flame for a slowcount of five, lift the flame a touch higher and circle around the torch for a ten count, i breath in how i do with the sticky brick and vapcap m when the carbs open, dont know if its me or the plate?
That is very strange. Like others have said, slow down the draw speed and see if that helps.
Seeing as he s familar w been tane vapes, t sond weird. If you cant make it cmbust, some thing may be off.
Mine is edgey, I still combust if I don't pay attention. I would never let a newbie ht it.......
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