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The Lotus Vaporizer

Discussion in 'Portable Vaporizers' started by Max Jitter, Sep 24, 2010.

  1. nemo

    nemo Well-Known Member

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    i also vote for handle.. because i am used to it
     
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  2. seaofgreens

    seaofgreens My Mind Is Free

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    Depends where you are coming from. When I got a Daisy I was pretty used to flicking a bic lighter over a spoon pipe and inhaling. This is a practice of which most people that combusted weed at some point in their lives are familiar with.

    You flick flint right on top of your bowl as you light and you suck the flame into the pipe. A flame that if you hold it under something, leaves soot all over.

    So when you go from doing something like that as if it is perfectly normal (which again, to people that smoke/smoked is perfectly normal behavior.) And you run into something pretty much completely analogous... it really scratches that particular itch.

    There is no heating a plate or any perceptual pre-heat. It is exactly like flicking a lighter over a bowl and inhaling.

    From a vaporists perspective, yep, can see that it isn't viewed as healthy as other options, but to someone looking to kick smoking and have a vaping experience that most closely resembles the combustion pipe experience, the Daisy/Sticky Brick is where it is at, and nowhere else. At the bare minimum, I'm sure we can all agree It is definitely safer than a spoon pipe and a bic lighter.

    On topic - The handle would be most contiguous with the look of the rest of the Lotus. The leather wrap probably a better tactile feel though imo.
     
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  3. colgorkan

    colgorkan Well-Known Member

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    Nice work on the reverse taper, will be sure to pick one up next time I make an order. Every time I notice a cool little bubbler at a weed store that looks like it would be perfect for the lotus it ends up being a dab rig.

    Judging from the photo, I go with the handle. Not a big fan of the look of the coiled wrap, maybe a black leather sleeve with an embossed lotus similar to the little covers you used to sell would strike my eye. Hard to manufacture though I assume.
     
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  4. Bvapst

    Bvapst Well-Known Member

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    Really neat to have a FEMELLE WPA . I know someone who will like it.
    I'm not fan of the leather thing. if leather, is it somekind of animal leather ?
    Anyway even synthetic I don't like. The fact it doesn't mix well with the others materials is another another personal opinion.
     
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  5. Max Jitter

    Max Jitter Manufacturer Manufacturer

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    I think it's safe to say that most people prefer the metal handle. Thank you all for your comments. Hopefully the new WPA (with handle) will be available in 3-4 weeks.
     
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  6. Max Jitter

    Max Jitter Manufacturer Manufacturer

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  7. cybrguy

    cybrguy Patience Rewards

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    Ooooo, those look like a nice size and would obviously fit in my WPA. I have been avoiding concentrates out of respect for my tolerance, but I don't think that is gonna keep me from trying them out. I never see any locally, but I have some away sources these days...
     
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  8. WakeAndVape

    WakeAndVape VapeLife X

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    first day with lotus went well!
     
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  9. Poostuff

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    That'll be a nice addition to your collection, I find it helps to blow any of those crumbs off the plate before heating. You don't have to but if you don't they tend to just sit on the plate roasting.
     
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  10. WakeAndVape

    WakeAndVape VapeLife X

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    I wish I would have known that yesterday...my plate already looks like shit.

    But this vape makes me feel like a kung fu master...it was kinda weird getting the hang of due to the operation of my other torch vaporizers, but picked up on it pretty quickly.

    I think it will make a fine edition indeed!
     
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  11. Xelatsok

    Xelatsok vapes tobacco modding the vapes

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    What happens t0 hot plate then?
    I just got my high temp Lotus and it bests all the vapes I own, incl. Mighty, CFX, Air, FF2, VGs. I want to get some spares for a long run, please guide me.
     
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  12. Xelatsok

    Xelatsok vapes tobacco modding the vapes

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    What are the advantages of low temp cap over high temp cap, if any?
    Which cap reaches temp faster?
    Which one retains heat longer?
    If you choose to have slow low-temp session having many gentle puffs - which cap you go with?
    May someone share an experience of tobacco vaping with Lotus, some tips maybe?
     
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  13. colgorkan

    colgorkan Well-Known Member

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    The hot plates get increasingly creased and wrinkled (oilcanned) with the expansion/contraction of repeated use and eventually tend to crack. Not a huge deal and it happens very gradually.

    Both caps work well. The original might be a little faster and the high-temp are able to handle continuous flame better without overheating. I do prefer the look of the high-temp slightly as the black makes the lotus flower design element pop. Strangely, I've never really torched the wood on my original caps by my own hand but have seriously blackened both of my high-temp caps within weeks of receiving them. Not sure if it is a design issue related to the flush-mounted retainer ring or increased user error due to increased user degradation. More research is needed.
     
  14. Poostuff

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    That's a great reply, I'd add that both are full convection so neither retain heat & both stop producing vapour as soon as you stop applying the flame, on saying that the high temp cap seems to retain heat for a fraction of a second.
    You can have slow session using gentle puffs with either if you so desire, could be more gentle with the high temp cap as it can take more heat without scorching.
    I started with the low temp to try out the Lotus & enjoyed it so much I went & bought the high temp with a bunch of extras & I use them both.
     
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  15. colgorkan

    colgorkan Well-Known Member

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    Ha, just had to replace one today. Only the third burnout in two (or is it three) years of almost exclusive lotus use spread over a number of lotii caps. Just to be clear, the caps do need to be replaced once they crack but it happens slowly enough that if you don't have a spare on hand, it's on you.

    Virtually instant on/off, 100% convection, totally user controlled vapage in a durable, reliable, portable package made me go all in on the Lotus. I figure it'll serve me well for enough years until the technology advances enough to make a change. I like that it maintains a lot of the rhythm and trappings of old school sparking a bowl alone or with a friend or two. Lastly, if shit does happen 10 miles from the trailhead, I can just use the stem as a pipe.
     
  16. Vaporbabe

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    I love love LOVE my Lotus! maybe even a tad more than the Mighty Vaporizer ! According to this blog the Lotus packs a punch! And she certainly does, this weekend I set her up with my favourite bong and man was I blown away - literally, I had to sit back and take a moment, LOL! Worth the BUY !!!
     
  17. Max Jitter

    Max Jitter Manufacturer Manufacturer

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    Here's our newest WPA, female 14MM to fit dab rigs.
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    And our new favorite torch, the Jobon ZB-635. Bigger tank, larger flame and it has a flame lock.
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  18. cybrguy

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    Gotta say that is a nice lookin torch. May have to nab one along with a liquid pad.

    Edit: Caved... ;)
     
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  19. cybrguy

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    Torch came today. I like it very much, so far. Feels good in my hand, seems to heat very well and the button is smooth and doesn't take huge force. Holds a lot of butane. Tool free flame adjustment.

    I'll give it a more thorough workout tonight...
     
  20. Poostuff

    Poostuff Well-Known Member

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    I'll be buying a couple. Looks really comfortable to use & a good lighter makes all the difference with the Lotus.
    I've been loving the Zico & haven't had an issue with it yet. The igniter does take a little force but I like that it's consistent. Hey thanks for the feedback @cybrguy
     
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  21. cybrguy

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    Yeah, I'm liking it. The little bit of leatherette feels grippy and the torch doesn't get as hot as some of the others I have. Easy button press. The flame cranks up well. Don't know how long the tank will last but is isn't emptying unreasonably fast, especially given flame size.

    I tend to buy cheaper torches around $5, but this one is worth the extra buckolas, at least so far.
     
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  22. cybrguy

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    I just re read this and I want to be clear that this torch PRODUCES more heat than my other torches. What I was saying above is that it is less hot to hold than others. And it's button is easier to press.
     
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  23. Poostuff

    Poostuff Well-Known Member

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    Ahh that makes sense, finally got around to ordering a couple of these myself & some accessories.
    Also ordered some dropdowns on the same day so I can mix it up & use the Lotus with some other pieces.
     
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  24. Poostuff

    Poostuff Well-Known Member

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    My favourite vaporizer threads are always so quiet that I feel like I'm interrupting the peace if I make a post.

    Anyway my new torch lighters arrived already that was quick, probably shoulda ordered the dropdowns first.

    It's a pretty ergonomic design in the way that it's comfortable to use with the Lotus & easy to ignite.
    There are a few different ways you can hold it & they all feel natural.

    Also no more holding the button down for extended use, I love the that you can just lock that flame on & let go of the igniter. That's great if you suffer from arthritis or muscle issues, or if you just can't be bothered holding that button down.

    I can't comment on reliability yet but it's ticked all the boxes for me & I didn't even have any boxes to tick.
     
  25. cybrguy

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    I have a few lighters with locks, but out of an abundance of caution I tend not to use them if the torch has a good button (as this one does). I think it may be due to that time that I lazily dropped one locked on which nearly burned down my vape station. Fire and I don't always get along well... :doh: :worms:
     
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