The Lotus Vaporizer

Discussion in 'Portable Vaporizers' started by Max Jitter, Sep 24, 2010.

  1. cybrguy

    cybrguy Patience Rewards

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    Here is what THEY say...

    "If you like a high heat style of vaporizing or just want a totally cleanable cap, this one's for you. Designed primarily for concentrates and cooling devices, it's fully interchangeable with the standard cap. There'll be no charred wood with this guy. The cap comes with an L shaped hex wrench and spare screws for easy disassembly for cleaning.
    A debris screen is installed in the cap to keep the interior clean.
    To use with Concentrates: Place your concentrate on a bed of ground material or a small ball of cotton."

    So, yes, for concentrates but also made to be disassemble able and to generally handle higher heat. If I needed to replace my cap for some reason, or if I were buying new I think I might go with the newer design just due to its greater durability, even tho I am a flower user.
     
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  2. voodoo_vape

    voodoo_vape Vapour RebeL

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    high temp caps are basically for concentrates and for those that are a bit more of kinda lousy or less determined to master the proper technique of pulling a nice hit without charring either the load or even the wooden part of your Lotus. When I was getting familiarized with my very first normal cap, I would burn it all round the metal part and not only in the center. This resulted in my wooden part being charred a bit. After changing my plate, I'd still get some "sense" of char when hitting it. So I decided to get a high-temp one for more carelessness :rolleyes:
    There are few things that differ to the high temp one. Your technique with it has to be changed from what you've been used to. Thick flame until getting your plate red-ish and then you could pull a nice draw. Although the amount of heat being absorbed from the metal ring is considerable enough, the time needed to torch the plate is def longer. Personally, although I prefer the high-temp to the normal one, the normal is the beauty of this vape. If you want to vape it without having to keep in mind combusting or charring your erb or your wooden body, then high temp is the one that you should pick. If you like your current set up, even with the normal one you can easily use it for concentrates.. Just aim the center and nowhere else and get ready for some real heat :p

    That's about it basically...

    Personally though, I'm currently at my electric-vape-only phase since I dare to say that I can't be bothered with the butane anymore, for the time being of course because I know that there will be a time that my little Lotus beast will be shining once again.. :rockon:
     
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  3. *plainlazy*

    *plainlazy* Well-Known Member

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    Awesome explanation but could I ask when you change the heat plate on the normal can you buy the high temp plate or it different so you have one or the other?
     
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  4. RastaBuddhaTao

    RastaBuddhaTao Well-Known Member Manufacturer

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    So, I love my Daisy as it was my first VAS. Had an opportunity to try a Lotus through water and VAS is back! A highly functional work of art that will inspire future RBT designs. Much respect!
     
  5. Gray Area

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    I think the plates are the same, and it's the other bits of the cap that make it "high temp".
     
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  6. hafalump

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    All my torches don't go high enough anymore. They used to be able to adjust too high, and combust.
    Now they aren't hot enough to vape at all. I have a Zico mt, and some cheap chinese, I only use high grade butane. Any recommendations? A great vape if you have the right torch. Getting tired of the butane inconsistent performance......
     
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  7. voodoo_vape

    voodoo_vape Vapour RebeL

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    Indeed, they're two completely different caps. The ht cap architecture is different as well than the normal one. If you look on Lotus website, you will see that in the ht cap the actual plate is kinda "engraved" in the wooden body so that the metal ring can fit in there as well. So there is the plate, the "foily" surface underneath and least but not last the metal ring. Pricing of course differs significantly as well.

    Overall, if you like your current vape and you're using it considerably without a lot of extra heat, then you're good to go like that.. if you find the specific technique a bit complicated and you're combusting then the ht cap will suite you fine.
     
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  8. Max Jitter

    Max Jitter Manufacturer Manufacturer

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    Happy Pi Day!

    Free Shipping on your Order and

    Cap Pouch on Sale at $3.14

    Use PiDay for Coupon Code
     
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  9. shmoedog

    shmoedog Vape for Life

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    I also use a Zico mt with mine and liked it so much I bought a second. The second one wouldn't go high enough so I screwed around with it and found an easy fix. Take the adjuster on the bottom (The black piece with the flip up arm) flip up the arm on it and move it gently all the way to the plus side until it stops. Then gently pull the adjuster off of the lighter. Try to maintain its orientation to the lighter. Spin it in the air clockwise a 1/4 -1/2 turn and slide it back on the brass screw. At this point you will now be able to spin it further to the plus side increasing your flame. You may need to play with it but you'll see what I'm talking about.

    Butane is always a little inconsistent. If your lighter is warm the flame will be higher than if its cold. If its full it will be higher than when it is empty. Nature of the beast I suppose. If I know I'll be using my lighter I put it in my pocket ahead of time. It helps a lot with consistency. I like butane vapes a lot. I love the control they offer the user and of course its always fun to play with fire. I hope this helps.
     
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  10. hafalump

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    :clap:Great tweak on the zico! Thank you
     
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  11. cybrguy

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    Damnit. I broke my j-hook that I got from Lotus while cleaning it the other day. I REALLY like it for attaching to ACs with the Lotus WPA. It's a GravLabs, and Lotus doesn't carry it anymore, but I found it at 420 Science. Whew... ;)

    Got to get some new cleaning brushes. Exposed metal is baaaad...
     
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  12. shmoedog

    shmoedog Vape for Life

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    Just so you know Underdog sells a really descent j-hook for a good price. I paid 25 for 2 of them with shipping. Its not as cool as my GravLabs j-hook for sure but it's got a great angle for operating the Lotus. I use them as beaters and save my Grav for special O's.
     
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  14. Gigsabits53

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    I ordered the j-hook from UD and I love it! I use it all the time with a gong. It's a great way to use the UD.
     
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  15. cybrguy

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    It's Baaaaak... I missed the J-Hook. It's nice with this AC because it stands up unaided unlike the other one. The downside is the honeycomb is not very flavor friendly...
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    Someday I will get one in this shape that has a more flavor friendly perc.

    Awww shit. Someday was today... ;) Somebody take my CCs away...
     
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  16. HellsWindStaff

    HellsWindStaff Dharma Initiate

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    I have been using my Lotus a lot lately - almost exclusively for the past week or two. Forgot how great the thing was and finally managed to tame the beast. Thanks @YungLeaner for the inspiration on busting it out!
     
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  17. dos equis

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    So this is likely a stupid question but I figured it would be worth asking. Are there butane torches that don't make a lot of noise? I just got a Lotus and it seems nice, but the torch noise is a pain when you're trying to be stealthy at night while people are sleeping. It might not be as bad as I think but it definitely feels like a fairly loud and distinct noise. Guess I should have gone with something electrical. :p
     
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  18. ren.dnb

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    Looking to get away from battery operated devices for now. VAS is kicking hard on the Lotus! I have a Hammer, but the igniter is finicky. Would rather have something where I just have to replace the lighter if something goes wrong. I'm assuming I can just use standard pipe cleaners to clean the stem out?

    Anyhow, should be getting one ordered by Easter.
     
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  19. colgorkan

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    No need, use a little bit of iso and just rinse the stem out in the sink.

    I wouldn't be surprised if there was a 4/20 sale.
     
  20. dos equis

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    Is it normal for bowls to be done in one hit with this or am I doing it wrong? I am following the instructions from the website and I get good hits but it's nearly always dark brown or nearly black after one hit.
     
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  21. just_the_flu

    just_the_flu take it as it comes, specialize in havin' fun

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    ...I usually kill a bowl in one hit....
     
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  22. Gray Area

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    I rarely do a bowl in one hit tbh.
    Just ease back a bit in the heat/length of time heating the cap.

    I do usually fill the bowl min 2/3 full though and get a good number of hits. But guess if you're using less it would be used up quicker.
     
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  23. dos equis

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    I fill mine up to about 1/4 to 2/4. I preheat with the tip of the inner flame touching the Lotus for around 4-5 seconds, then I inhale fairly slowly with the inner flame now hovering right above the Lotus. Should I keep heating it for a long as I inhale?
     
  24. Poostuff

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    Read through this thread a little you'll find some really great tips but sounds like you've got it right.
    If you want more hits you can always heat it less or turn your flame down. That way you'll get more hits & they'll be low temperature tasty ones. The speed of your draw plays a large part as well.
    One hitters through water are great fun with the Lotus but when I'm using it with the pope damn I mean pipe I'll go for lower temps & get 3 or 4 hits.
    My main tip would be if you do combust pull that cap off as quickly as you can so it doesn't get all stinky.
    Hope you found somewhere great to use it where you're not waking everyone up with that lighter.
     
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  25. dos equis

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    I just tried going a little easier on the heat and got an equally good hit as I usually get off a small amount, plus it's only slightly brown. I guess even small variances in technique will make a difference with thos one.

    Thanks for all the advice. Hopefully I won't stink up the place combusting. :D
    It doesn't seem to be as noisy as I was initially worried it would be, at least no one has complained. Either way I found a shop in the UK where I could get a DBV for a very reasonable price so I will have a unit for quiet sessions as well. Hopefully those two will keep me satisfied!
     

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