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The Lotus Vaporizer

Discussion in 'Portable Vaporizers' started by Max Jitter, Sep 24, 2010.

  1. natural farmer

    natural farmer god is in the neurons...

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    It only happens to me if I draw to hard… ;)
     
  2. steama

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    I get an off centered darkening also. Interesting
     
  3. Phizix

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    A trick I use now to keep the charring even, especially when trying to clear a full bowl in the Lotus WPA in 1 hit...

    I spin the top of the lotus using my finger/fingernail on the stir stick while holding the lighter further back than I normally would. You can instantly feel more heat when you slowly spin the top and by holding the lighter further back I haven't combusted with this method yet although I'm sure its easily possible if you are not careful. My abv comes out very uniform and fully extracted now with less stirring.
     
  4. stickstones

    stickstones Vapor concierge Retailer

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    good tips...
     
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  5. Vapodudule

    Vapodudule Well-Known Member

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    The Charred spots come from radiation of some steady flame. The way you oriented it can reveal some disymetry in spots too.
     
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  6. Gray Area

    Gray Area Well-Known Member

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    I've just caved in and pulled the trigger on one of these.
    Long stem, natural vapour cap and WPA :tup:

    Quick question... Is any butane with the "near zero impurities" mark on it suitable for the torch lighter??
    Thanks.
     
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  7. FlyingLow

    FlyingLow Team NO SLEEP!

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    I also learned very quickly that the only way I can get a lung buster, without over-toasting the material, is to spin the top.

    Without spinning the cap, I definitely see hotspots and uneven vaping even on medium pulls. While I like the stock stem, I find it very helpful to see the vapor as it develops because it is easy to see when it is getting too hot.

    Unfortunately, I still over roast way more bud than I would like. Over roasted to the point that I throw out about 1 out of 8 bowls, rather than putting it in my ABV cooking supply.



    ....that reminds me; I have some coffee cake to eat!
     
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  8. steama

    steama Well-Known Member

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    You nailed it as an explanation I think.
    Congrats on your new Lotus!

    There are many good brands of butane for your lighter. I have used Vector 14 but I prefer Colibri Premium in all my jet flame lighters.
     
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  9. jojo0420

    jojo0420 Cloud Chaser

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    I have noticed this as well. It seems to be product of the torch angle and where I aim it.

    Moving the torch around a little while heating helps this. I mean a little, like drawing a circle around the center point with the tip.

    I've also noticed a more vertical torch angle helps decrease the localized scorching.
     
  10. SSVUN~YAH

    SSVUN~YAH You Must Unlearn, What You Have Learned...

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    That puppy will work you might want to check this out unless s/h is outrageous. http://www.dhgate.com/store/product/new-4-arm-perc-glass-percolator-glass-hammer/183729594.html

    Slip ya some high temp silicone over the wpa and you won't have a problem with the stir stick, and won't need a silly carbon adapter.

    If you guys are having problems charring you can also just try covering the screen completely. Less is more! You will save plenty and get a more uniform abv for sure! I can get amazing rips with very low quantity. Stay vaked my friends!!!
     
  11. Coiler

    Coiler New Member

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    Not so sure about that "sexy toy" in the description though... :uhoh: Thanks for making me look to that thing differently :p
    Sucking milky white vapor from it might make things a little too awkward... Thanks for the link anyways :D

    Never thought about the possibility of the stirring stick being in the way. Maybe I can bend it a little or just clip it off. I'll see when it gets here.
     
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  12. Mr Mellish

    Mr Mellish Well-Known Member

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    Colibri Premium transformed my Honest Jet flame from a sputtering piece of junk to a reliable and powerful tool. And it's a much better deal than some of the other premiums.
     
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  13. AdventurousMoustache

    AdventurousMoustache Active Member

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    the amount of times I've dropped the WPA is absurd, forever grateful that it's SS
     
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  14. sherb

    sherb Active Member

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    I'd like a Ti one, if only for the bling factor.
     
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  15. ataxian

    ataxian California

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    Me too!
     
  16. herbivore21

    herbivore21 Well-Known Member

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    TI also doesn't conduct heat as well. I'd like a TI one so I don't burn my hand changing vapes right after a session lol
     
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  17. natural farmer

    natural farmer god is in the neurons...

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    I don't believe anymore that angle and radiation does anything to the load. There is very little radiation going on. You can make the hot plate red hot without drawing and you won't notice any heating of the load. Imo only tunnelling due to a fast draw can cause centre or side charring...
     
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  18. Fenton Mewley

    Fenton Mewley A man in search of cloudier pastures

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    Didn't see it mentioned, but have you burped it? Get a pen, press on the intake valve to release any vapor out. If you lighter is spraying butane everywhere, that should help. You might also need a tip. The Neon 5x I got cannot go directly into the Honest or else it sprays.

    For those of you that are dropping the WPA, just press the WPA harder into the joint (or maybe my magnets are just super weak?). I've literally shook the downstem + WPA upside down vigorously and it didn't fly off until like the 5th second. Really tight seal, great stuff. Keck clips work too if that's viable.

    For those of you interested in a wooden pipe, I've been in contact with a pipemaker. I gave them the specifications for the bowl to act as a female joint for the WPA, and they agreed to make one. They said it should not take more than 3 weeks. More info to come then (if my specs are right, if it works, pics, ect.).
     
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  19. natural farmer

    natural farmer god is in the neurons...

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    Just make sure he makes the ID of the stem as open as the aluminum stem while he is at it… ;) :tup:
     
  20. Fenton Mewley

    Fenton Mewley A man in search of cloudier pastures

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    Thanks for the reminder. I saw their pipes on etsy, and I saw a couple stems with great looking IDs.

    Just sent the email to confirm. Fortunately we just agreed on the design yesterday, so that shouldn't be a problem.
     
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  21. natural farmer

    natural farmer god is in the neurons...

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    Is it the pipe maker we posted above? With the Wizard and White Wizard designs?
     
  22. Fenton Mewley

    Fenton Mewley A man in search of cloudier pastures

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    DGGPipes.

    I said that I would like for the pipe to stand up by itself, so the design is a little different than the pipes in the shop.
     
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  23. natural farmer

    natural farmer god is in the neurons...

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    The angles of the bowls seem too steep from their pics on easy...
     
  24. Vapodudule

    Vapodudule Well-Known Member

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    Well, we are several to see the same things occuring. May be puting some angle in the flame brings the spot plus the steady flame. May be it creates some tunnelling too.

    I saw different results than you about radiation in lotus and did not tried this specific experiment but doubt from the result you say. the former WPA was more short and radiation from flame was a pb.

    Imho the radiation from flame is strong and only distance (Wider WPA) could lower it in Lotus. I posulate here that Lotus is built to control the radiation of a blue flame (used when flame is moved above the plate on the long hit, highh temp equilibrium phase)
     
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  25. natural farmer

    natural farmer god is in the neurons...

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    That experiment is the only way to see if there is radiation or not imo… It's not difficult, try it. Use different loads to check the different results with different distances from the hot plate. @Max Jitter has also commented in the past on how radiation is very minimal if I can recall correctly… And I agree.
     

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