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The HI

Discussion in 'Plug-in Vaporizers' started by Alan, Dec 10, 2011.

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  1. NickDlow

    NickDlow Log Hog

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    @P.A.M. thank you. The gorgeous amboyna Burl jar was crafted by @Alan's magical hands and the slab is also amboyna Burl but that came from another wood wizard here on FC.
     
  2. FUCKCOMBUSTION88

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    Thanks dude, another quick question guys how do you keep the heating element screen clean, say if some tiny crumbs get stuck in the holes? Thanks again!
     
  3. P.A.M.

    P.A.M. Vapo Rising

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    Mine came with a needle inserted into the tip of a stick , similar to a Bamboo skewer stick. So a needle or anything pointy I would assume, gently try to poke stuff out of it . Might be other better methods from other folks who've used one longer then me.. ?

    Tip for the roasting tube (stem) screen , I use a steel brush that came with another vape, I brush it off, comes nice and clean to almost new , no need to soak it in iso or burn your fingertips with open flame.. any sterdy brush could possibly work , steel bristle works good though..
     
  4. FUCKCOMBUSTION88

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    Yeah I was going to try doing that but I thought that it could maybe cause the pieces to fall inside the core on the other side and combust. Or just clog up the inside part below the coil. Is there a way to remove the top heating element/coil part to clean more thoroughly?
     
  5. FUCKCOMBUSTION88

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    Hey, I tried to edit the above post but couldn't, just wanted to add another question for whenever anyone has the time. Will lowering the VVPS voltage lower the temperature that the HI produces? Just to clarify, that is the whole point of a VVPS, to adjust the temperature of the vaporizer as well as the voltage/power being used? From what I've heard 365 F is around the ideal temperature, so is there a way to bring the VVPS down to that temperature range? If the HI and other log vapes are built to run at higher temperatures, isn't there a much higher risk for combustion also? Took a few good rips and burnt my tongue a bit so thought I could be pulling too hard, or that the voltage was too high. Thanks again for the help guys & sorry for the multiple newcomer questions
     
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  6. Prolusio

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    Yes. The temperature your HI produces will change with the Voltage. More Volts = More Power = Hotter. Therefore lower volts will also give a cooler extraction.

    I do not believe there is an easy way to figure out the exact F temperature your vape is producing.. I think even if you had some kind of temp gun that wouldn't necessarily give you an accurate answer because you'd actually want to know the temperature of the air as it passes over your herb; not so much the heater coil itself. With some practise you should be able to guesstimate the ~F of your extraction by examining the colour of your ABV though! If your herb is dark brown or almost burnt looking after your first hits you're probably vaping well above 365F. If it comes out golden brown and with repeated hits does not darken much, this means you're dialed in at a nice low roast.

    The definition of "ideal" temperature kind of depends on what you're going for too IMO. People who seek flavour or specific chemical extractions might be more concerned about low/accurate heats than a person who wants large clouds or single hitters. When I use my portable vapes I always turn them up around 400-410 f just to cook the bowl in one session, used my EQ the same way.. I'd say the ideal temp is whatever works best for you and, in this case, that's probably just gonna require some trial and error to dial in on. At least the testing is fun :nod:
     
  7. FUCKCOMBUSTION88

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    Great reply, thanks man. So the hotter the temperature the more visible the vapor will be as well? Even if at a lower temperature and no vapor is visible that's also fine and vapor doesn't always have to be visible? The taste is wonderful dry even at 12V though. I've learned a lot these past few days, great to know this type of stuff. Appreciate the help!
     
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  8. Prolusio

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    Typically yes, keeping everything else the same hotter temps will produce more/thicker vapour. And yes sometimes there might not be much visible vapour, especially depending on your lighting conditions.. Sometimes I've thought I hardly get anything only to exhale near my lamp and see a large cloud. And that's totally ok in my books! I'd focus more on how the extraction feels and how your herb looks after heating than how visible the clouds are. Some of the best hit's I've ever had were tasty low temp hits that you could barely see but still sent me flying! But obviously if the herb is coming out green or looking barely browned then you still have some goodies in there waiting for some heat.

    With practise you'll find there are some things other than heat that can affect your extraction as well. Keeping the heat the same but adjusting how fast/slow you draw air, how you grind your herb, how much you load into and how tight you pack the chamber, even how dry your herb is.. all can have a large affect on how much vapour you produce. And obviously the quality of your product will have a noticeable effect as well! Just try to keep everything you do the same and adjust one thing at a time until you find a method that's working right for you. Without seeing your results it's hard to say but I suspect 12V is an excellent place to start experimenting and should provide all the heat you need if you can get the right technique down.

    A relevant anecdote.. My best friend and I both have a vape called the SSV; identical glass setups, same grinders, get herb from the same guy.. His draw speed is so different from mine that if he hits my SSV on my preferred heat setting the way he's used to using his own... he will burn herb very consistently. Same vape, we both love it, but we have very different settings to get our preferred results.

    My point is just to say don't be discouraged if you feel you're not doing something the "right" way; the best way to use your HI IMO is the one that gets you HIghest! :lol: Good luck with your extractions @FUCKCOMBUSTION88!
     
  9. Diggy Smalls

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    I've been using an "Oversized NonG" (from UD) with my Toasty Island lately. It is thick stainless steel that fits over the heater port instead of inside it. Anyway, it fits like glass and hits like SS. I pull it out when I wanna get wrecked quick or want a giant bowl of avb. They are not a regular item, and the one I have has an 18mm nylon taper, even though I would prefer 14mm. Just thought I would pass it on, since I've loved the pairing so much.
     
  10. FUCKCOMBUSTION88

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    Just a positive update for you Heat Islanders! I'm very glad that I made this purchase. Attached to a water pipe I've found that this works amazing. Dry hits are very tasty, a nice wooden/herbal taste. (I'm sure everyone knows this information, but just wanted to provide my own experience/feedback as I'm fairly new to vaporizing) I've never actually had a true taste of the herb experience until I got the HI... I thought that joints tasted good. The first vapor bong was an experience that I won't forget. I also haven't combusted since I've got the HI, and I honestly don't think that I ever will, unless it's at a social event and someone pulls out a joint and there's no access to a vaporizer, but very rare occasions and I'm glad that I now don't smoke. The effects are much cleaner as I was developing some negative health effects before during the combustion days. When I first tried a vaporizer awhile back, before I got the HI, I thought that the effects were too mild and mental, without the body effects, as I was used to combustion. Since I've got the HI, my opinion on vaporizers did a 360 and I'm now used to the effects and feel much healthier. Thanks again @btka and @Alan, both of these individuals have been very helpful. Thanks to everyone else who took the time to answer all of the above questions that I had as well. Glad to be a part of a community like this
     
  11. FUCKCOMBUSTION88

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    Hey have any of you guys thought of a way to clean the inner part of the wooden roasting tube?
     
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