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The Hammer Vaporizer

Discussion in 'Portable Vaporizers' started by Hammer Vaporizer, Aug 29, 2012.

  1. Slightly Medicated

    Slightly Medicated (SliM) Iron Lungs

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    I have mine and I really enjoy it. It functions way better then that other vaporizer... For me I have to do many many stems in order to get a full feeling of medicated. Which was also true for the other. The difference is this one holds much much less than the other. It makes it much more efficient. I as hoping the other product... (I don't want to keep mentioning it) would be a good pick me up vaporizer. It was inefficient for me though. The Hammer does a better job of using less to give me a "boost".
     
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  2. VisiblyVaped

    VisiblyVaped Well-Known Member

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    If I could find a puffit buyer, I'd consider getting the hammer.
    Still have cans of good Vector butane from the iolite awhile back....

    I'll wait and see. I have enough vapes to tide me over as I ponder.
     
  3. ALBoldt

    ALBoldt Member

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    It can be a quiet unit if you turn it all the way down, but it still has the initial ignition flare that can be pretty loud. But I'd have to agree on the diminished viability as a stealth product. The design is new enough that people probably wouldn't have any clue what it is, on the other hand.
     
  4. Hammer Vaporizer

    Hammer Vaporizer Well-Known Member Manufacturer

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    It might be a bit tricky, but you could push the screen further down in the stem past the groove if you wanted to. If you go too deep, you might see some unevenness where the top contents get toasted more than the bottom, but going down a few more millimeters probably wouldn't hurt.

    We hope to offer other options for the stems in time, maybe one that holds a little more or unique designs other than just the clear straight glass. We do have a 14mm GonG fitting that should be available for purchase soon that would make the Hammer work with custom glass pieces. The bowl on those are slightly larger than the standard stem.

    Glad to hear you are liking the Hammer so far AL!

    As you mentioned, there can be a bit of a learning curve to using the product, finding ideal temp setting, draw technique, etc... but most user get comfortable in about 3-4 sessions.

    The tube (packaging) the stems came in can double as a handy little container for your materials. It can be cut in half with a scissors for easier loading and it fits perfectly in the toolbox for transporting.

    Thanks for posting pictures and your feedback so far!

    Hey there my friend, hope all is well... good to see you here!

    I think you are right on the money with your points. The Hammer was really designed for efficiency and to provide a similar experience as a one-hitter + lighter combo.

    Agreed that although it's very portable, it's not designed for stealth. It's meant to be used mainly in private settings (home, friends place, hotel room ;), etc). If super-stealth is an important feature, the Hammer is probably not the best option.

    I'm glad you were able to check out the Hammer at CHAMPS. Thanks for chiming in with your experience!
     
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  5. ALBoldt

    ALBoldt Member

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    Okay, I've gotta pop back in here and give this thing another little bit of praise.

    It came out at a fairly big party, and everyone stopped rolling and hitting the bong because they liked this so much more. It's the only time I've seen a non-volcano replace combustion at parties, because usually people are too messed up to use a vape or they don't get big enough clouds. Some people had butane tubes so it kept going all night, and it's the only time I've been at a party where there was still herb left over. Usually people stop because they run out, not because EVERYONE hit their ceiling.

    I've never gotten that many compliments on a piece before. I think the similarity to a bat made it really intuitive. A ton of people wanted to start vaping after.

    This thing made me unload my UD. I don't really have a purpose for it anymore, because I can get the same clouds off the Hammer from less herb and it's way more portable.

    I have to say though, I don't have the 'emotional' connection with the Hammer that I did with the UD. The hand-turned wood made it super easy to form a bond with. It would be really hard to make something like that durable enough to be portable, though.
     
  6. bluesurfboy

    bluesurfboy Member

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    Hey, so i called a local head shop to ask about this, i thought they just might have it....

    (they are the only ones that carries/carried the pax when everyone else was sold out because they bought 20 of them at a show, by far one of the best moves they made, i was lucky enough to buy one here locally while everyone else was waiting for theirs on backorder)

    ....anyways, very knowlegeable guy, when i asked him about it and mentioned it was butane run, he said they are staying away from butane systems.

    i love my "mp3 vaporizer" great in every way, except for long excursions away from power for days (ie, camping)

    so this has me looking at the hammer, but the store stays away from it because of the high percentage of complaints with butane run vaporizers.

    aside from user error and issues the biggest is engineering related as the ignition system would work fine on lower mountains (like Boreal, for those that are familiar with northern california), but go up to mount rose, and the same ignition system wont fire up there.

    any thoughts, suggestions, experiences to share?

    i am seriously considering getting this, and i guess even if the elevation is an issue it is still an awesome device, but im curious to know.
     
  7. ALBoldt

    ALBoldt Member

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    As far as I know, the venturi in jet lighters alters the stoichiometric ratio of C4H10/O2 to adjust the combustion rate/flame size. If that's right, you should be able to move the flame size adjuster to a position that forces greater air intake to get more O2 in the flame just by upping the volume of air passing through the system. Unfortunately, I think the setting that would allow that would be a low flame size, which would probably work against the cause enough to mitigate possible combustion efficiency advantages.

    Another factor that would come into play is the boiling point of butane. If you go high enough that the temp drops below ~30 degrees F, I don't think the butane will evaporate. I'd assume you could heat it up with your hands, though.

    So... I have no experience with using it in high altitude conditions, but there's enough that could go wrong that I think it's unlikely it would work, but it's just a half-step above a random guess.

    EDIT: http://www.puff.com/forums/vb/cigar-accessory-discussion/312726-jet-lighter-problems.html

    Did some Googling, it looks like the general consensus is that jet lighters don't work way up there. Still a great little tool, though.
     
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  8. Hammer Vaporizer

    Hammer Vaporizer Well-Known Member Manufacturer

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    Like any butane torch lighter, the Hammer could have issues igniting at higher elevations due to the lower oxygen content. We have not really tested this (hard to do in the Midwest, highest point in MO is 1772 ft), so I can't say what the exact threshold is, but my guess would be (based on similar lighters talked about on Google) that it should work up to maybe 6000-7000 feet give or take.
     
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  9. OF

    OF Well-Known Member

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    Sounds to me like it's time to make friends with the local sky divers. I bet the pilot would love to make 'beer money' testing this out for you?

    You don't actually have to vape with it (just ensure the flame works) of course, but that does introduce some interesting possibilities......

    OF
     
  10. Dogman

    Dogman Vaporist Extrordinair

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    • Our rule is: Do not ask about being a beta tester. Warning point issued.
    I skydive Hammer, send me a 'test' unit and I will give you the altitude to within 10 feet of where it stops working. Bet you didn't expect such nice guys, huh?

    Hell, I'll even go the extra mile and have the videographer do a video in the plane of the Hammer in action. What else could I do to sweeten the pot?
     
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  11. OF

    OF Well-Known Member

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    What a guy! Is America a great place or what?

    OF
     
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  12. Hammer Vaporizer

    Hammer Vaporizer Well-Known Member Manufacturer

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    Great idea OF! We are actually going to look into maybe just renting an empty seat or jumping ourselves. Not sure if we will be able to work it right away, but possibly in the near future. We will keep FC posted and maybe even have some pictures of the adventure. Would be pretty badass to get an accurate altitude threshold in this way :nod:

    We'll consider this if we decide not to do it ourselves. Thanks for the very generous offer, Dogman ;)
     
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  13. OF

    OF Well-Known Member

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    Cool. Could make a fun video even. OTOH I bet you could slip one of the guys some bucks and your camera with a test unit. He could use his altimeter as the background showing the unit lit at various altitudes on the ride up. Re light it every 1000 feet? Pretty hard to argue with that kind of shot.

    Otherwise, he's just a passenger on the ride up. Find the right guy and I bet you'd get the test done in exchange for the unit??? I used to work with a pretty informal bunch of such guys, any of them would gladly shoot a few shots in exchange for a neat vape........

    Good luck.

    OF
     
  14. Dogman

    Dogman Vaporist Extrordinair

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    My pilot is also a vape head, he would be more than happy to let me do a real world, live test of the unit working while vaping on the way up.
    Click to play YouTube Video

    This is my videographers work, he is awesome!

    Wow, I had no idea the whole video would come up, sorry if I broke a rule, I was just interested in posting the URL.
     
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  15. OF

    OF Well-Known Member

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    Most cool. Sounds like we got a plan coming together.

    I don't know about you, but I like happy endings.......

    Looking forward to a killer video. And some very useful data for some users.

    OF
     
  16. Dopevape

    Dopevape Well-Known Member

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    i was wondering about the glass tubes, the metal screens that come with it? Aren't they a bit risky? its a straight line to your lungs mostly when u pull on it? How did you solve the problem with the metal threads comming off the screen after some usage? been having or am almost having the same problem with another vape. At some point the thread will come off and enter the airstream... which is when i dont dare to use it anymore.. ok there are spare screens.. but thats not my point.. if by any chance this can be prevented from happened it should be done. Ive seen screens with a metal ring round em for example.
    http://www.drbongs.co.uk/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=449 EDIT: Damn i can see how this won't work metal screen wont fit in the tube
     
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  17. ALBoldt

    ALBoldt Member

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    The way the screen fits in the tube, I would imagine it's really hard to break a thread off.
     
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  18. Quetzalcoatl

    Quetzalcoatl DEADY GUERRERO/DIRT COBAIN/GEORGE KUSH Staff Member

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    Yeah, I think you would have to be trying to get a thread to break off the screen and into your mouth. Especially since after about three uses it starts to resinate together (the reclaim oil, not tar since we're not combusting!). I never had problems with my screens when I smoked years ago. The screen threads aren't even pointing in the right direction for it to happen. The cup would have to be facing you for it to happen. I can't imagine hitting it hard enough to dislodge a thread, and then get it through the resistance of the screen pointing the other way.
     
  19. Dopevape

    Dopevape Well-Known Member

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    yeah. the way the are woven together will probably prevent this. Was just thinking carefull and i have another vape sorta which might get this problem only after 20 or some usages... :( screen is poor quality but maybe.. i should just soaked it in Iso instead of working with alcoholpads :D and removing it every 2 days ...
     
  20. Dopevape

    Dopevape Well-Known Member

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    yes I used to smoke meself I have never seen the problem before until now.. with the Lotus (Have to use the name anyhow :s) now it might just be me but those threads are mighty fine.. i could imagine one sucking it in while taking a big puff.
    But back to topic. These might be better screens.
     
  21. Slightly Medicated

    Slightly Medicated (SliM) Iron Lungs

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    I just clean the stems with ISO and leave the screen inside. Usually everything gets cleaned well enough that I don't need to remove the screen. I have had the same screen in mine since I first started using it.
     
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  22. Hammer Vaporizer

    Hammer Vaporizer Well-Known Member Manufacturer

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    Just wanted to let you guys know the Hammer is now available on a few of the larger online vaporizer retailers (links below). Although we would love for you to purchase from our store directly ;), some of you may have existing accounts with these stores or prefer to buy from a larger established retailer.

    We are still offering a special intro price ($20 off + free shipping) to the FC community at http://www.hammervapestore.com/collections/vaporizers/products/hammer-vaporizer-special, but that link won't be available forever as we don't necessarily want to compete with our wholesale customers (aka retailers).

    It would also be AWESOME :tup: if some of you that purchased a Hammer at the special price would jump on one (or both) of these sites and drop a quick review on the product page.

    We are excited to announce that the Hammer Vaporizer is now available at:
    http://www.vapornation.com/store/hammer-vaporizer.html
    https://www.vaporstore.com/proddetail.php?prod=hammer-vaporizer

    We are also hoping you guys start seeing the Hammer in local smoke shops soon... so if you are waiting to be able to check it out in person at your local retailer, it would be a big help if you guys put a bug in the shop owner/employees ears letting them know you are interested in it.

    You guys (and girls) at FC really are the best vaporizer community in the world and we truly appreciate your support!
     
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  23. Hammer Vaporizer

    Hammer Vaporizer Well-Known Member Manufacturer

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    Getting back to the elevation issue for a minute...

    A review recently came up that claims to have "tested the Hammer up at 10,000 altitude without a problem." See below...

    The Hammer Vaporizer: The New Portable Butane Driven Vape On the Market! - http://www.vapormovement.com/?p=1646

    We don't know the people at the site who posted this, it's their claim not ours. We are still planning to do our own testing in the future, but this seems like a legit claim.
     
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  24. OF

    OF Well-Known Member

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    Great news you're still on the testing quest.

    My take on this kind of 'evidence' is to take it with a large grain of salt absent such specifics. We live in a world of photographic 'proof' of all sorts of stuff that can't be. UFOs not withstanding.

    A reproducible experiment from a 'known source', subject to peer review, is the basis of science theory. That's where you can hang your hat.

    OF
     
  25. Hammer Vaporizer

    Hammer Vaporizer Well-Known Member Manufacturer

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    At OF's suggestion, we rented 2 seats on a jump plane at a local skydiving company this weekend and did an "Official Hammer Vaporizer Altitude Test". I'll be posting more details tomorrow, but the results were even better than we expected. Here are a few quick photos, more pics and details to come...

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