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The Grasshopper

Discussion in 'Portable Vaporizers' started by midgetsanchez, Jun 8, 2015.

  1. Sonicboom1991

    Sonicboom1991 Member

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    You're not alone my friend.
     
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  2. JCat

    JCat Well-Known Member

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    One of my hoppers I've spent the cost of the hopper in RMA shipping almost and have had it in RMA or transit for 75% of my ownership :lol:
     
  3. Tommy10

    Tommy10 Well-Known Member

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    Still "working" but the battery is already a bowl and charge which is even more annoying when your USB charger has never worked. Only shop in country I know who stocks them is out of battery stock. The proprietory battery nonsense is almost enough to bin the device but the output as long as it keeps working work in great. Current battery charging every bowl set up can't keep up. Moving very soon so didn't wanna order from overseas as I don't know address of where I'll be when they may rock up, but may just have to ask a friend or use parents address because wanna keep using but can't use it like this.
    Any links to shops with good priced battery in stock?
     
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  4. Sonicboom1991

    Sonicboom1991 Member

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    I just did the calculations and mine has been out of commission for 89% of the time I have owned it. Oh vey!
     
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  5. JCat

    JCat Well-Known Member

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    :lol: .... guesss you got me beat! Shout out to everyone ... do I hear a >90%? >95%?

    :lol:
     
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  6. Mr. Me2

    Mr. Me2 Well-Known Member

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    To the contrary, mine has worked 95%+ of the time
     
  7. slcbdco

    slcbdco Brewer, Lobbyist, Vaporist

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    You’re not alone, I’m probably down in 80's but I also had some experimental versions of components, you can probably thank me for your 95 :D
     
  8. CaptVapor

    CaptVapor Well-Known Member

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    I just bought a hopper last week and forgot to check here to see how quality has improved ... you guys aren't instilling very much confidence! :p
     
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  9. shawn1

    shawn1 New Member

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    I have heard some reports saying if I use this like a session vape it will break the battery is this true? I was considering buying one but not as a 1 hitter kinda deal
     
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  10. Mr. Me2

    Mr. Me2 Well-Known Member

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    It works best if you let it cool down between each pull. It's not a session vape but it's great!

    @CaptVapor , welcome and give it a chance. You'll love it!

    And welcome to @shawn1 too!!!
     
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  11. slcbdco

    slcbdco Brewer, Lobbyist, Vaporist

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    it’s intentionally designed to be a personal vaporizer though on a bong it’s great in a group
     
  12. nickb

    nickb SSV w/ Standard HC, LSV HC, thermovape all,

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    UNFORTUNATLY I HAVE 2 NON WORKING HOPPERS.
    i got back the Ti unit and it lasted 2 loads, i am very dissapointed i have sent back several times already, it is IMO the best hitting discreet portable, at least for dense clouds, any onw know of another portable that gives same thick clouds, i am in the market again which is a shame because if this vape was reliable it would be my top 3.. Silver Surfer (With Life Saber HC and GG whip with a DDave 18mm screen at the top for loads) Enano-(Clouds on a budget load,) then my Hoppers ( both currently not working) so i want something that hits like these beasts do
     
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  13. Baron23

    Baron23 Well-Known Member

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    "Friends, Romans, countrymen, lend me your ears;. I come not to bury Grasshopper, but to praise him"

    (yes, edited a bit from the original haha)

    You may remember that after a year and change, my Ti GH finally stopped performing the way it did. It would still vape, but weakly and it no longer milked my can nor did the AVB look done.

    So, I blew it out, I cleaned the threads, I sacrificed a virgin to the gods (and you just don't know how hard it is to find one of those these days), all to no avail.

    I despaired of having to send it to Hopper and go through the RMA cha-cha with them.

    But, I did think to order a new set of batteries first to eliminate any further possible causes. I had been using my second set of batteries, GHB-2s, and I religiously rotate and charge the four batteries I keep in the line up.

    Now understand, it wasn't that I wasn't getting as many loads as before...it was that the vape was not running as hot as previously...by a long shot.

    Got my batteries this past weekend, topped them off in a Nitecore charger, and ran it last night with a PFE in a stevenlmz79 FC-188, 14 mm, Mobius knockoff. The new ones are GHB-2 also, but with what appears to be a thicker sleeve on the outside.

    MY GRASSHOPPER LIVES!! :bowdown::rockon::spliff:

    [​IMG]

    Seriously, performance was back to brand new.

    I did try different batteries out of the four when I was having issues, but since they were all rotated religiously they all had the same number of charge/discharge cycles and apparently they all got puny at the same time also.

    So, if you are finding your GH running a bit cold, you may want to consider new batteries before RMA.
     
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  14. huk_huk

    huk_huk Well-Known Member

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    Not really. Sure batteries wear faster if they get hot but still I use my Grasshopper as session vape 95% of the time and my batteries last for a year or longer. Depends on how much you vape I do on average two bowls per day. It also cools down really fast. Batteries are too cheap too change the usage pattern for them imo
     
  15. JCat

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    I've ordered (and kept spares) of brand new batteries so I could test this most of the time, but that was never the issue for me. Glad it was for you! :)
     
  16. Baron23

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    Sorry, mate....I often hesitate to comment on the reliability of my GH as I know so many others whose devices are not reliable at all.

    Hope they get you fixed up right, once and for all.

    Cheers
     
  17. Vapetrees

    Vapetrees Vaped Out

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    Mine too! I’ve never sent it back and all I had to do twice is take out the screen and clean the temperature sensor.
     
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  18. JoeMama

    JoeMama Well-Known Member

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    DISCLAIMER: I had not intended this to be so friggin' long. I really didn't mean this to be a treatise on the Revelations about Battery Performance over Time in the Real World. However, I think it's worthy of publication in either Science Today :science: ... or Psychology Today. :mental:

    @Baron23 that was really a helpful observation, thank you!

    I have been going through this same saga with my Ti's.
    I do exactly as you, with a 4-battery rotation in the Nicore.

    This made me realize something I would like to share, hoping it's a "useful awareness".

    • I'm on my second rotation of 4 batteries over the past full year (rough idea for purposes of my point).
    • I consume about 3 modestly-filled chambers per day, and desire/expect a respectable ABV color. Point being that the hopper is used all day, several to many times a day. I hit once/twice, and lay it down. Lather, rinse, repeat.

    Perhaps the #1 Frustration with the battery rituals is knowing when to swap batteries.
    When I'd decided to swap out the first rotation of batteries 5-6 months after I began with them, it was a pain in the ASS, and now I understand why: I was too hung up on the life of the battery as a measure of the battery's 'health', and ignoring maybe the other factor: performance when fairly charged.

    I'm sure someone out there can answer the question, "How many well-toasted chambers
    will a fresh GBH2 produce on a single charge?" Perhaps that is a "gold standard" against which a mid-life battery could be measured. Because I think that after mid-life, the battery might LAST (roughly) as long as a new one, but actually underperform, making the hopper look like the problem. Upping the Temperature to T5 is always an option, I suppose, but when one is not used to doing that for the first "3 months", one tends to avoid breaking that habit for the "last 3 months". And still, that doesn't answer the question of whether the hopper is the problem.

    Hence, my mind was blown: It's time to replace the batteries when I start really questioning whether I should do the RMA-dance. Throw a fresh battery in it. See what happens.

    So that's what I did. And like yours, @Baron23 , my hopper jumped right back to top-shelf hitting.

    Bottom line, for me, is, how much am I willing to put up with sub-standard performance? Pretty long, if I know it's not the Hopper, but just the battery getting tired.

    :tup:
     
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  19. Sonicboom1991

    Sonicboom1991 Member

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    What symptom(s) would you notice that would prompt you to take the screen out to clean the temp sensor?
     
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  20. PPN

    PPN Fleurs&Vapeur

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    About batteries.... is it better to rotate between batteries or to use one until it shows some signs of failure?
     
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  21. Hjalmark

    Hjalmark Oldest boy alive

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    I rotate all and then in about a year of use I buy new ones but discharge and charge all my old and pick the best ones

    I don't think the hopper batteries are that bad, year of daily use with discharging and charging under demanding load

    Have had AAA batteries that crap out sooner from running my headlamps :)

    But think the quality of each battery is much more random then large manufacturers like Duracell and uhh Sony?

    I dont know any battery names
     
  22. Baron23

    Baron23 Well-Known Member

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    I think its not GH loads but rather the number of discharge/charge cycles that impact capacity and, after a while, its seems to effect voltage output.

    It didn't even seem that insidious to me....seemed like my GH was working pretty ok and then went downhill rather quickly. On the other hand, if the decline was slow enough, I may not have noticed until performance was dramatically effected. By the by, even temp 5 wasn't cutting it with the old batteries and that's when I knew I had an issue.

    I don't use my GH as often as you, but I'm still thinking about 6-8 months (depending on usage) on a set of batteries and its time for new ones. $28 or so plus shipping....not a worry for me but for others, YMMV.

    I really love my GH and I suppose had taken it a bit for granted until I thought I was going to have to send it in for RMA at which time I was rather deflated. Its a perfect vape for me at 2 am with pain and need for relief and sedation. Quick and easy to load, heavy duty extraction, easy to empty and clean out.

    Cheers Joe, glad my experience was helpful to you.

    IMO, rotate them...why not. Why wait with a battery in the charger when you can just queue up the next one.

    Rotating will distribute charge/discharge cycles over a larger set of batteries, but I don't know that this would make any individual battery tolerate a larger number of charge/discharge cycles than just running one.

    I keep my GH in this case. One battery in the device, three on deck. When a battery dies, I take it out, take the next one in line, move them all up one spot, charge the depleted one and add it to the end of the queue. Makes it easy for me to keep track of them (and I'm at the age when CRS is endemic. LOL)

    [​IMG]
     
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  23. mmenzie

    mmenzie My friends call me "Menz"

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    i just noticed today that one of my two GH's does not auto shut off at all and the other one auto shuts off like its supposed to. the one with the auto shut off that is working is not a model that will turn back on with one click after auto shutoff. so i have to click it to turn it off for real and click it again to turn back on. the one with the auto shut off not working is obviously a double click as well
     
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  24. CaptVapor

    CaptVapor Well-Known Member

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    Does Hopper Labs send an email after they've shipped or will the status change on my orders page? I know they are probably working through Black Friday orders but I'm just a little anxious! In an excited way, of course.
     
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  25. PPN

    PPN Fleurs&Vapeur

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    I got the same issue (I don't own the PFE) and I use a silicone tip from the old W9 EO cartridge. It fits very well and doesn't affect the look so much (unlike the GHL silicone mp). Mine was already used and doesn't seems to affect taste but, while new, maybe you'll get a faint silicone taste.... idk. Is somebody else used this tips?

    Works as a watertool adapter too (14mm).
     
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