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The Grasshopper

Discussion in 'Portable Vaporizers' started by midgetsanchez, Jun 8, 2015.

  1. MoltenTiger

    MoltenTiger Well-Known Member

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    that's priiime. it came up on my instagram feed
    Really looks to be the perfect addition to the hopper.

    And that is a really nice HT Ti piece there too!
    You should post a pic of the full set and assembly when you get the chance :brow:
     
  2. diddymao

    diddymao aint no party like a diddy party

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    yep it looks the business, i got a nice surprise as that is the first image i have seen of it, got a five cm one and a ten cm one, not sure when hes going to ship them but will do a show and tell as soon as i get them.
    cant wait
     
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  3. MoltenTiger

    MoltenTiger Well-Known Member

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    it really does!
    Here is the link to the instagram post, there are 3 pics
    https://www.instagram.com/p/Bb-hdFiHp25/?taken-by=eds_tnt_

    In person that is going to be amazing!
     
  4. diddymao

    diddymao aint no party like a diddy party

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    im really excited, ed is the DUDE !!!
     
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  5. Ed's TnT

    Ed's TnT Woodsman Manufacturer

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    Hey hey you all glad to see some enthusiasm, hit me up if ya wanna know more, thanks again!
     
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  6. diddymao

    diddymao aint no party like a diddy party

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    loving your work bro, i think you may be about to get a fuckton of orders from all the hopper fans on this epic thread
     
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  7. justcametomind

    justcametomind IT'S TIME!

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    I have a GH since a couple of months but I have never heard of a V.2 Grasshopper. Vaposhop claims they store this new version out in Europe since November 2017. There’s no mention of it in HL official sire but I could have misread.
    The question is, a friend of mine is debating if getting a GH.
    The info page lists a lot of minor improvements over the first version.
    Would you better get a SS refurbished GH for 129€ or a new V2 SS GH for 225€?
    https://www.vaposhop.com/vaporizers/pen-vaporizers/grasshopper-vaporizer/
    Warranty is one year for the refurbished v1 and 2 for the v2.
    Registering the new unit on HL you get lifetime warranty, how does it applies to non Americans customers?

    Third question:
    I’m reading this from the HL Tips and Tricks page:

    3. Take Short, Firm Draws
    Other vapes require a slow and steady draw that lasts between 30 and 90 seconds. This type of draw is not ideal for the Grasshopper. The Grasshopper comes equipped with a very powerful 45-watt heater, a microcontroller to monitor temperature in real-time and a very short vapor path. Its design allows for quick and easy vaporization. Your draw should be faster than with other vapes and last 15-20 seconds. Near the end of your draw, click the device off to allow for all the vapor and warm air to be cleared from the chamber. ”

    Question: This is insane. Who the hell is able to draw for NINETY seconds? I have pretty big lungs but I don’t think I can draw for more than 30 second. I also got schooled up on this very topic about getting long steady draws and not “short and hard”, and “you have to draw faster than with other vapes” like it says.
    Which vapes? Of course the non existent vapes in which you draw for 90 seconds.
    When I pulled the GH hard like it says I got wispy vapor and burning lips (and was debating if returning it or not). Maybe I have a GH on the cool side? I feel like I have to do the opposite: draw very slowly, slower than any other vape. Sipping like if it’s a MFLB. That way I get clouds.
     
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  8. JoeMama

    JoeMama Well-Known Member

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    @DelaSheck , while I can't speak to your experiences regarding vapor production that seems anemic, I can say that the blue flicker on draws is now the new normal, apparently. I had sent both of my Ti's back at one point a few months ago, and one came back with the "blue flicker on draw", while the other one was (is) steady (of course, flickers on weak battery as it should).

    The weird thing is, why would each behave differently if they were both sent back around the same time? (Rhetorical question, of course). But I have noticed this "2nd click" requirement to get the thing to hit well. It's a frustrating thing, especially when I'm doing the "Hey, check out this cool vape" demonstration to a friend. I just think the Hopper will always be a temperamental device.

    Baron, I know you know what you're doing, so this is just to relate and maybe share that when I have this happening, I question the herb dryness and even its potency. I get top shelf, but I've noticed that even from bud to bud, there can be a variance in the cloud production. I'm sure we all know the experience of when you take that draw and you feel the "heated air" but know you're not going to get the cloud. Then we crank it up a notch, go again, and maybe that's better. Sometimes, when that air feels like it's plenty hot enough, I'd predicted with fair odds that I had a sub-par (not dry enough, low-potency crumbs, etc) load in the chamber.

    Notwithstanding that, just as often I find that doing that "second click" thing immediately after the sub-par hit suddenly has me choking on a cloud. Go figure.

    That does sound insane on surface, but perhaps (like with the Firewood), a (slow) draw of 60 seconds implies an exhale or two in between multiple draws. :2c:
     
  9. PPN

    PPN Fleurs&Vapeur

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    I have to say things are running smoothly with my Hopper since I had to deal with overheating issues/led sequence small issues. In another hand I use it more like it is designed and rarely kill a bowl hit after hit, battery life seems to improve with time too... is it possible?
     
  10. Baron23

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    Hi Joe - thanks for the thoughts. Been using the same exact herb...not strain but the same batch...prepared the same.

    Thanks again.
     
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  11. MoltenTiger

    MoltenTiger Well-Known Member

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    Interesting pick up!

    I believe this is referring simply to the most up-to-date Grasshopper design.
    HL have constantly been adapting it to better deal with the many issues that occurred in the field.
    It's been very evident that the prototyping of this device, from hobbyists at the time, was fairly limited.
    So, over the course of backers units, to pre-order units and retail product, there have been a bunch of changes.

    If I was to speculate, perhaps the timing of recent discussion of new warranty protocols

    And this claim from vaposhop
    Are they a little connected?

    That list is pretty interesting, 20% more power, less draw resistance... not bad not bad.

    We've seen reports on FC about the absence of the double-click power on thing with newer back-ends.

    Perhaps Vaposhop just got new stock after some months of sitting on their old units? V2 to them.


    BTW A second hand hopper will get updated with the new components as necessary, just like whoever's transcript is above is getting the good good.

    Really the greatest thing is HL's apparent claim of much greater reliability from Nov '17, and how they're still around - which many doubted.

    This makes me feel comfortable going in to my 5th device warranty in 2 years (per hopper no less), the first 3 were totally free mind. Back in the day of them sending out replacements.

    I'd have no qualms about getting a second-hand hopper, as long as the warranty is considered in the asking price and is considered by the potential buyer.

    I'm sitting next to a Sublimator and a VapCap M, so two dead hoppers is nothing much to deal with but it's something still
     
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  12. Baron23

    Baron23 Well-Known Member

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    Any idea wtf this is about:

    "The On/Off button now will work in either position, making use more intuitive"

    What 'either position" are they talking about?

    Anybody know...or did I already know and that brain cell died! LOL
     
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  13. MoltenTiger

    MoltenTiger Well-Known Member

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    you know how if you leave the grasshopper, it normally shuts off by itself, leaving it in a 'standby' mode.
    OG GH's you had to click it 'off' and then click it again 'on'. Two clicks.

    New units don't do that, you just click it once and it will turn on.
     
  14. CarolKing

    CarolKing Singer of songs and a vapor connoisseur

    My hopper was sent back to me in June and mine only needs one click to turn it on or off. I've been using mine ever since with no problems.

    I'm still nervous when I turn mine on. Love this vaporizer. The stealth aspect of this unit is a nice thing to have when vaping on the go or you need to be cordless. I have 8 batteries, they will degrade over time depending on the use.
     
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  15. Baron23

    Baron23 Well-Known Member

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    Ah....thank you. I actually don't think I have ever hit the time out on my GH.

    Thanks again for the quick response :tup::cheers:
     
  16. Hammahead

    Hammahead Well-Known Member

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    Apparently I have a new model now and when I tried it the first time I was soo annoyed by that flickering blue light, as with my first Hopper this would vaguely indicate trouble and would like initiate hot backend, short battery life and so on. Not this time. I googled it, found it's supposed to be normal with the "new" units and everything's fine (til now). I get a solid 3 bowls per battery and only have warm backend after several draws. I'm loving it, but frankly speaking, wouldn't be really surprised if it went to sh!t anytime soon. As I said: my current mindset is that I enjoy the time we have together and have some backup if it happens.

    In an earlier post I mentioned my new Hopper did not have this bug/feature of heating up when you just move the clicker a few mm so it gets contact. Seems it's a bit different than I thought. I let my new Hopper lie on the table til the lights got out and there this bug/feature was again. As I wrote earlier, I'm not too fond of that in general. So without thinking too much, I just clicked it to turn it on, and waited until it shut down again, and was back to what I wanted: no heating up without a massive click on purpose. All hail the new backend!
     
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  17. Hjalmark

    Hjalmark Oldest boy alive

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    Here is avb from old hopper on 4,5 left and on the right is avb from new hopper on 4-5

    4 seams nearly same as 5 but it's kicking ass with longer battery life
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    Feel like this baby is going to burn out bright and fast

    I give her about a month :rolleyes:
     
  18. vapenerd

    vapenerd Well-Known Member

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    Got my hopper mid-September and have used it about 20 times. It's great through water and it's great for stealth. Not a fan of it for dry use, too hot and not very tasty. Also, no problems at all so far. Lucky me.
     
  19. DelaSheck

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    Well, at least I know the flashing is normal now, though I really don't like the flashing. I find it a bit distracting and it reminds me of when my Grasshopper stopped working properly. I think it might be triggering me...

    But with that said, the vapor is still not even close to what it used to be. It used to be a monster, now it's not that impressive. And I don't trust it.
     
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  20. Hammahead

    Hammahead Well-Known Member

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    I'm getting exactly what I got with the 'old version. Same as @Hjalmark I think the temp is hotter at highest setting than it was before. I use it at a lower setting and enjoy the longer battery life and have the intention of not letting any of what I read here trigger me. I'm trying hard to relax ;)
     
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  21. slcbdco

    slcbdco Brewer, Lobbyist, Vaporist

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    My understanding is that all the temps are slightly higher than the original settings
     
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  22. JCat

    JCat Well-Known Member

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    That hasn't been my experience ... but I'm likely one of the unluckiest Hopper owners in the world, so I wouldn't set the bar by me :lol:
     
  23. Hjalmark

    Hjalmark Oldest boy alive

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    I been trying to start a Facebook support group for you but not sure how many "likes" is needed to save your hoppers :D

    1000 likes and my hopper lives another month?
     
  24. Mr.Sifter

    Mr.Sifter Well-Known Member

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    I hoper Hopperlabs never releases a Grasshopper2 but continuously improves the OG.
    With each return for repairs you increase the chance of getting the neweset model.

    my logic right now.
     
  25. mmenzie

    mmenzie My friends call me "Menz"

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    i am milking a bubbler right now with my grasshopper on 5. i have two hoppers i did have one from the first round from the indigogo campaign. that one had 2 or 3 warranty repairs abd was eventually replaced as i got a new serial number. i bought a second when i temporarily lost my first one and it was purchased in the summer. it had one warranty repair one week after receiving it when the back end exploded on me when i was adjusting the temp. that resulted in them replacing it with a new one, again new serial number. both that i have now have been working fine. my lights do flash blue and i can say when i had my OG it was solid and only flashed when the batter was getting weak. so they did make some kind of change
     

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