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Discussion in 'Portable Vaporizers' started by midgetsanchez, Jun 8, 2015.

  1. Hjalmark

    Hjalmark Oldest boy alive

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    I think the only thing you can do is count the time it takes to charge each battery, but then I would also try to drain them by going to 1 heat setting after you get flashing red and see if you can get it to heat again

    Then all batteries are a bit more equal and the ones that take shortest to charge should have the lowest capacity

    Then just see how many bowls you get with a fresh one and chuck the "under a bowl" batteries

    Also noticed my bad batteries start charging little under 3,7v and also charge up at lower amp + charges really fast because little capacity

    Best idea I got at least
     
  2. Hogni

    Hogni Honi soit qui mal y pense

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    Thank you very much, Sir :wave:
     
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  3. almost there

    almost there Well-Known Member

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    My hopper's been back for a whole week now so let me share my thoughts. The unit came back rocking, great extraction from the get go and the abv came out nice and dark. From previous experience I learnt to not make any more premature claims about how great it's working so I decided to hold off for 2 weeks which is the usual time it took to deteriorate again. Anyway by Friday, 3 days later, I already saw a drop in performance. I can still get dark abv if I keep at the same load but I have to take a few more pulls to get the dark results. Now it's Monday and abv will only get a medium tan at best. Wrote to Caroline today to see if I can send it back before it drops again to an unacceptable level. Maybe they can get it back while it's in the process of degrading and they can determine why my hopper never last more than 2 weeks of legitimate performance before it falls apart. This is game is getting old, I have the patience for 1 more round and then this is going in the drawer:disgust:
     
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  4. vapviking

    vapviking Well-Known Member

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    My two hoppers' performance stay pretty even. You may be getting material going below the screen and affecting temp sensor. After every bowl, to empty the chamber I do it by rapping (bumping) the hopper on its edge, upside down to let the material fall out. I try to find something wooden to rap it on. Once empty, with mouthpiece off, I take one or two quick firm draws to suck material out. I don't put finely ground material in, ever.
    If really bad, you might try removing the chamber screen to clean below it. I've not had to do that.
    Best of luck!
     
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  5. almost there

    almost there Well-Known Member

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    I use a coarse grind with almost all my vapes so it’s not that. Up until the 2nd RMA I use a qtip to swab after every use and the hopper gets emptied after every use immediately so it’s not that either. The hopper doesn’t get used at home ever so it’s not being overworked by any means and I only use it dry. Honestly it seems like those of us who got shitty units from the start never quite get a proper function no matter how many tiles they claim it’s repaired. Anyway thanks for all the tips and trying to help.
     
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  6. btka

    btka Well-Known Member

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    are you using the same herb... is it dry as the other herb you used before... is it cured the same way...
    if it is the same batch of herb and exactly as dry you can compare the abv and say something about it...

    the color of abv is sometimes missleading in my opinion... some herb does not get as dark as others...
     
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  7. AJS

    AJS Calm Consistency

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    After about 14 months of using my GH it seemed to be slowing down. Hits took longer to milk but still seemed really hot, even tho the herb wasn't getting dark. Batteries were cutting out early.

    Cleaned my backend. Rotated the temp dial while pressing down on it hard. Blew our debris I saw when I spun the temp dial.

    Good as new. She refuses to die.

    [​IMG]
     
  8. Vapetrees

    Vapetrees Vaped Out

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    SAME!
     
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  9. johnnyCanuck

    johnnyCanuck Well-Known Member

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    My theory is that the “honey” that is left behind from the vapor slowly clogs up the temp sensor. So depending on your weed and relative humidity in the air, it’s going to get dirtier faster than others. Only way to clean it is to get under that bottom screen.
     
  10. Hogni

    Hogni Honi soit qui mal y pense

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    It's so, so sad. This device is at the market since some years and most postings here are about advices to push the timeline for a case of RMA to a later point.... (btw 3rd hopper in 11 months w/o regular use and a lot of maintainance)

    I give them one more year. If they shouldn't have solve their issues up to then their reputation will be so down nearly nobody wants to buy a hopper anymore cause of permant unreliability and then your lifetime warranty will be fucked.
     
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  11. SilentRunner

    SilentRunner Well-Known Member

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    [​IMG]
    These drip tips
    fit perfectly into the performance front-end. I tried others which were too small

    Bah, too high to post an image? [​IMG]

    Modnote: Edited to display image
     
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  12. dadan

    dadan Well-Known Member

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    ordered 1 ss GH the 31st October from HL, they sent out just today and only after my email asking what was going on ...the never answered but finally sent a package, 8 days after...doesn't start in a good way.... really really disappointed...
     
  13. MoltenTiger

    MoltenTiger Well-Known Member

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    that does suck.
    They took a while to send my mates when he bought it a while back.
    His is still going strong and he's super happy with it.
    Hopefully you get a good one. I got my blue one back today, it's dead. Lent it to a friend. Going to send both of mine back and hopefully get two proper working units returned...
    These things are definitely worth it for the convenience, but they can sometimes have a right good go at being inconvenient.
     
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  14. Robob

    Robob Veteran Vaporist

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    Hop along for my Hopper story, I had originally pre-ordered in Jan of 16' and slowly had my delivery date pushed back to July so I canceled my original pre-order and said I would wait and see how it played out.

    Recently I was yearning for new vape and planned to get this and the FW4 due to severe and terminal VAS. So I pulled the trigger and HL had mine delivered within a week with the PFE and extra battery, much better than my first experience with HL delivery dates.

    Ill post a quick first-impression below.

    Performance is above average with the PFE installed dry or with water, I do prefer the PFE over the OG front end just for the better air flow. Dry i use it on 3.5-4 and on H2O I use it full power no probs or combustion so far.

    Battery life is below average with the new batteries only lasting 1.5-2 packs max which may be due to me still learning temp settings and leaving the unit on longer than needed during a draw. I am still perfecting the proper hopping technique and ordered a total of 5 batteries and a LUC v4 charger to keep me satiated.

    Taste is great either dry or through water, I found my self needing to "deep throat"(technical term) the vape a little bit more to keep away from the heat but I haven't burned myself or found it to be the scalding beast some users reported it to be dry, maybe I just know to be careful around the power of a 45w heater an inch from my mouth hole but I haven't found the heat of the unit or the air that bothersome for solo or duo use turning the unit off between hits dry or just ripping it hard on H20. I do find the taste probably a step below the FF2 and the Vapor Brothers but for a stealthy portable I find it exceeds my expectations.

    So far I am happy with my purchase and felt good to support HL by ordering their battery charger and S/S case that may or may not ship in Dec 17' or 18' only time will tell. For now I will be happy using the LUC v4 for charging and will just continue hopping along...
     
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  15. Hjalmark

    Hjalmark Oldest boy alive

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  16. Vapetrees

    Vapetrees Vaped Out

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  17. Hogni

    Hogni Honi soit qui mal y pense

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    Should we start a request to @phattpiggie , perhaps he would like to make some extraordinary tips for the GH? :wave:
     
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  18. Hjalmark

    Hjalmark Oldest boy alive

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    Yeah thankfully it landed safe in hopper labs, think it got taken by custom because lithium ion battery

    Probably going to have to pay some fee when I get it back :\

    Or maybe not

    Yeah I thought about that also or just find a wooden pipe that fits the hopper, but think the best design would be one where the mouthpiece bends upwards with the hopper body so you could have it in one hand and still operate clicker, my glass bubbler piper worked kind of that way and it was really comfortable
     
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  19. sk8man121

    sk8man121 Frozen_Vaporent

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    What we have here is the package standard whip add on to the tubo Evic attached quite snugly to my (new) blue TI hopper. I'm sure I'm not the first person to stumble upon a hack along these lines, but I find it to solve two problems:

    1.) As with all hoppers, my mouthpiece gets too hot to pull on after two hits. While I don't make a habit of overwhelming the heater, this does negate heat on the lips entirely.

    2.) My new hopper has a difficult time extracting dark ABV on 5 and is likely underpowered. I have found that reducing draw speed beyond what is comfortable native is a solution, which can be done with the whip attachment and a normal draw. I can get MUCH better hits this way than both natively and with my 10" bong with PFE; airflow isn't even the least bit restricted.

    Research will continue because science.
     
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  20. Hjalmark

    Hjalmark Oldest boy alive

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    Did that with my old conduction vape and had it inside my jacket with tube coming to my face

    Walking around the countryside with that was nice
     
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  21. Baron23

    Baron23 Well-Known Member

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    Well, after more than a year of perfect performance out of my GH, it is now definitely running cooler than it had before and even at level 5, the AVB comes out a bit too green for my liking and definitely more green than before (where I could get it as brown as I want).

    I have blown air through the air intake, my vape is always brushed clean out after every load, I twisting the back end dial, etc, etc. I have not taken blue tack to the back end threads yet, but will try that.

    I have ensured that the batteries were indeed topped off and they are holding good charge.

    I'm not inclined to pull the oven screen out lest it void my warranty but I am disappointing and will have to send it in soon as I will just not use it as it is.

    P.S. - this actually seemed to happen rather suddenly rather than a slow degradation.
     
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  22. Vapetrees

    Vapetrees Vaped Out

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    Take out the screen, it’s solved issues I’ve had with mine as well. Other members were also having issues and cleaning under the screen seemed to help. Good luck! It brought mine back to life.
     
  23. Hjalmark

    Hjalmark Oldest boy alive

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    This is exactly why I wish they made a 18650 hopper or a 16650 one still giving us more then double capacity of the hopper batteries

    Then design the oven like the mouthpiece screen allowing you to screw out the heater and drop it into ISO or get mailed new one

    Then just warranty the hopper different way, lifetime limited warranty with limits being battery and 1-2 years on heater

    Yeah pen shape great and all but only pen that makes you blow out clouds is a vape pen

    Not a writing pen FYI :)
     
  24. JCat

    JCat Well-Known Member

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    Disagree on this one ... I can blow out huge clouds as I can finish a .15g load in 1 hit in the Hopper!
     
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  25. Hjalmark

    Hjalmark Oldest boy alive

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    Okey excuse my grammatical mistake!!! :doh:
    "Only OTHER pen that makes you blow out"
    :p
     
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