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The Grasshopper

Discussion in 'Portable Vaporizers' started by midgetsanchez, Jun 8, 2015.

  1. MoltenTiger

    MoltenTiger Well-Known Member

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    My external charger died, just thought I'd drop a line alerting to the fact that charging multiple batteries with the hopper charger is less than ideal.

    If you have multiple batteries, pick up an Xtar MC2 charger (can be used with a USB powerbank/solar cell and is quality, compact and affordable).
     
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  2. vapviking

    vapviking Well-Known Member

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    Okay, my first post as a Hopper user, but I have to be brief today.
    I got a plain Ti and a SS for wife and myself, plus two SS for daughters (those two are untested as yet, except to see them turn on and off once).
    The Ti and SS are both working perfectly as far as I can tell. No heat issues in back end at all.
    My primary comment is that I was surprised at the amount of heat that the body builds up very quickly if you try multiple hits. Uncomfortable to hold, but not a burning heat, so....I can see right away the one-hitter aspect of the Hopper. So far I'm finding a light load, no tamping, is giving some very nice hits, like 4 to 6 or so and I've been staying just below the 4th (390C) hash mark.

    I'm still high in several ways from last night. Hopping was accomplished at Lincoln Center's Damrosh Park while attending The Last Waltz 40th Anniversary show, at about 10th row, center. Levon Helm's (rip) Ramble Band with guests from Buddy Miller to Dr. John to Lucinda Williams to Bobby Ace Weir. Larry Campbell did a terrific job with musical direction, and some real fine guitar playing. I loved every single minute of the show, and Hopper had a great time too!

    Best t-shirt of the day, "Make America Grateful Again".

    And kudos to whomever put the urinal cake likeness of Donald Trump in the pisser. Huuuuge laughs from everyone! New Yorker's understand the Donald so well.

    Hopped around the campus at Lincoln Center ('evening, officer!'), in our seats and also in a couple of spots inside Grand Central Station. This thing's gonna be like the Travelocity Gnome!

    So, I can't say I'm totally sold on Hopping yet, it's all too new, but for this excursion, I can't imagine using Mighty with the same abandon (lack of concern).

    Did I mention the most excellent flavor coming outta this thing? And it seems highly efficient, pun intended!
     
  3. newVaper420

    newVaper420 Vapor Enthusiast

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    Wow, so am I understanding that you used the hopper inside GCT? Wow, that's bold. On the tracks waiting for a train, or in the main area?

    I'm pumped to get it. I have that same lack of concern with my Mighty, cause I just pretend it's an e-cig. SO many people have those big boxes that pump out the clouds.

    I am excited to get my hopper at some point LOL. I have a feeling though I'll need a bunch of packs to get me to where my mighty gets me.
     
  4. moondog

    moondog It's an obsession but it's pleasin'

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    DAMN! Great show. And what a fine maiden hopping voyage.
     
  5. MoltenTiger

    MoltenTiger Well-Known Member

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    you are an outrageously cool father!

    Haha, enjoy the life, Hopper Family :rockon:
     
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  6. vapviking

    vapviking Well-Known Member

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    GC is quieter at 10:30 pm. I used Hopper in one of the long corridors that leads from street to the Main Concourse, and also on platform. Train was filling up, so there's the walking along next to it for a bunch of cars full of passengers. I decided to not give a crap whether they saw me or not as I walked past them, boarding several cars farther down. As you say, the e-cig thing has given us a lot of cover in these situations!

    I have Mighty, too, and I'm finding (initially) that Hopper is using less material to yield great effect. But once home from NYC, a nice session with Mighty really hit the spot!
     
  7. Baron23

    Baron23 Well-Known Member

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    Thanks for the write up and what a concert!! Wow, I'm envious :D:rockon::clap:
     
  8. crazferret

    crazferret Active Member

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    I received my Hopper on July 22nd after just over a year in pre-order status. LOVE IT!!! It is everything I was looking for. A touch too hot on the lips, so I was glad to have the silicone mouthpiece. Unfortunately, I am having an issue charging the device. I reached out to Hopper Labs on July 25th, letting them know...

    1) I attached the charger to my Hopper. It lit up and I believe had blinking red lights while attached.

    2) Later in the weekend, the device prompted me for a charge (blinking red when I was trying to heat up).

    3) I once again attached my charger to the Hopper. As soon as the magnet attached to my Hopper, it lit up red for a second then went dark. I tried unplugging the device into a different outlet, etc. No luck. I thought maybe the light function wasn't working, but it may still be charging. I left my Hopper plugged in for a while. When I came back to it, the Hopper was still dead.

    4) I purchased additional batteries. I put a fresh one in and resumed using my Hopper. Showing me the Hopper is still working well, but the charger doesn't.

    I thought I had a solution when Caroline responded, "You can try plugging your Charger into the device and the USB port. Then, leaving your Hopper and Charger attached, disconnect the Charger from the USB port and then reconnect it to the USB port. If you still only see 1 red light, please log in to your account on GHVape.com, register your device, and submit a warranty request."

    Well. the suggestion didn't work. July 29th I submitted a warranty request. It states that I will hear back in three business days. A week later and I am still waiting to find out what their solution will be. I'm assuming I will lose my Hopper. I have two extra batteries. Two of the three are drained. I've been clinging to the last one. I figure I will run the Hopper down once I hear back from Caroline.

    I am strongly considering picking up a Nitecore D2 charger. If there is an actual issue with my Hopper, I am hoping this warranty request will sniff it out. I've read a few people have experienced this issue as well. It sucks to finally get this pen and not be able to use it.
     
  9. Mr. Me2

    Mr. Me2 Well-Known Member

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    Definitely get the external charger. You can order it from Amazon and have it in 2 days.

    I haven't used my gh charger once, and don't plan to!
     
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  10. crazferret

    crazferret Active Member

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    Well twist my arm, why don't ya?

    Ordered! :D
     
  11. slcbdco

    slcbdco Brewer, Lobbyist, Vaporist

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    I'm a Juilliard grad so it's nice to hear the hopper infesting my alma mater! I remember smoking bowls and joints finding the places without security guards in College at the "olde" Lincoln center plaza. Of course if they don't want people getting high, making what used to be a hard marble plaza a grassy knoll definitely sends the wrong message!


    As for stealth I've definitely hopped at Penn Station, and often in the airport, it can't get stealthier.
     
  12. WoodyWeedPecker

    WoodyWeedPecker Well-Known Member

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    I received my Hopper. I'm a bit disappointed because I think I got the hot backend issue. I will probably need to send it back. At the moment, I can't hit the hopper with any kind of regularity. Either I clear my bowl it in one or 2 hits at 5, coughing vapor, or only get flimsy vapor at temp other than 4.5-5.

    But I also noticed high level of draw resistance on my gh. Is it normal or am I too used to the LSV/MFLB/Nano?

    Does your gh make a "whistling" sounds when you draw from it? On my hopper, I can draw hard without making aspiration/whistling sound but then the draw sensor doesn't pick it up and shut down the hopper (and get only flimsy vapor) after 13 seconds.

    I can't comment anymore because I think I have the hot backend issue, so I'll continue to use the E-Nano and the LSV (dome screen) as my daily drivers. Experimenting with the gh at the same time. I was just wondering about the draw resistance and the noise it makes when I draw.

    @Justpassedu What happened with your unit? Did you send it back?
     
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  13. Baron23

    Baron23 Well-Known Member

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    Yeah, me too. Used GH charger once....I have a ND-4 and four batteries (one in the GH and three in one of Delta 3D Studios GH battery case) and rotate batteries into it as they are used up. Been working fine.
     
  14. YaFreekin Right

    YaFreekin Right Well-Known Member

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    No whistling on my unit & I find the draw restriction to be about perfect. My guess is you are over packing it.

    Could you elaborate on you think you have a hot backend issue? Does it produce instant heat at the back similar to where the heater is just below in the intake holes? Have you been clicking the unit off several seconds before the end of your draw to reduce overall heat?
     
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  15. Mr. Me2

    Mr. Me2 Well-Known Member

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    Have you looked at the gh resources page to help you troubleshoot? There are some fixes there worth trying that may help you.
     
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  16. Vapor_Eyes

    Vapor_Eyes The map is not the territory

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    Hopping in the airport? You are a brave man! I don't think I'm brave enough for that.

    I have used the hopper in a movie theater during the movie. I used a smoke buddy jr. to get rid of visible vapor and odor. It worked like a charm. I've also hit it directly in front of a police station while passing by.
     
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  17. WoodyWeedPecker

    WoodyWeedPecker Well-Known Member

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    Glad to hear you have no whistling sounds, there may be something wrong with my unit. Because for me it's very noticeable. It does make a noticeable whistling sound when I draw hard enough to beat the draw sensor.

    You can be sure I don't over pack it. I did use larger loads to experiment but 0.05g is my preferred quantity to experiment (enough to cover the gh screen). I like to microdose when I can (I love the taste of fresh bowls). But I vary quantities at the moment since I'm experimenting. With other vaporizers like the Nano or LSV-dome screen, I use even less than 0.05g since you can get dense vapor with it. You must know the LSV has no draw resistance at all, so the hopper represent a large drop from this for me. Still, I'm surprised by the high/med level of draw resistance.

    I think the back-end gets hot independently from the radiating heat from the heater. It's easy to see by grabbing/touching the hopper body while your draw. Also my battery last around one bowl and I start getting flashing blue lights.
     
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  18. moondog

    moondog It's an obsession but it's pleasin'

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    Somebody correct me if I'm wrong, but based on other folks' experience, the combination of hot back end and very short battery life seems to indicate a faulty back end.

    But to echo Me2, definitely check out the troubleshooting resource.
     
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  19. Mr. Me2

    Mr. Me2 Well-Known Member

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    Not sure, but I'd check for dirty contacts (and on the battery), and gunk in the threads. Having said that, it still may be signs of arcing.
     
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  20. moondog

    moondog It's an obsession but it's pleasin'

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    I've used my Pinnacle Pro and miVape many times in movie theaters and at all sorts of music events in theaters, in my seat and without a smoke buddy. Never had a problem. I'm really looking forward to using the hopper in those scenarios.
     
  21. newVaper420

    newVaper420 Vapor Enthusiast

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    Absolutely, I've taken it that late, but there are usually army dudes in the main concourse along with police and bomb-sniffing dogs (no worries about drugs with them I think). Still think it's bold. I've hit my CO2 cart on the platform waiting to go to GCT but never in GCT. Just figured there are people all over. But that makes me super jazzed for the Grasshopper to be quiet honest.

    Because if it is that stealthy, and I do believe it is, that opens up a world of possibilities. The mighty is more of a session vape but if I can get one or two good blow out hits really quickly, that would be ridiculous in situations that demand it.

    Having access now to CO2 carts is the ultimate in stealth to be honest, but I much prefer the flowers as they are cheaper and they work better for my Crohn's disease. So with the stealth aspect of the grasshopper, I'm extremely excited.

    Has anyone taken a grasshopper into radio city music hall?
     
  22. ooo

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    i have a little whistling sound too when i draw but i thought that was normal.

    also i'm not sure if i read this from somewhere else before, but if i hold my hopper with my thumb pressing into the curved part of the clip while i'm taking a draw, it barely gets warm at all. if i hold it avoiding the clip, i feel more warmth being generated on the unit. i'll have to do more testing on this unless someone can comment and tell me that this is an already known thing.
     
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  23. vapviking

    vapviking Well-Known Member

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    I saw dogs at Lincoln Center, but they looked so friendly! No bombs on me at the time, though. :\

    Can you please tell me what CO2 cart is?

    Any Rockettes out there hopping?

    Hey @ooo , when hitting hard I hear a whooshing sound that can sound a little like a whistle but mostly like a whoosh as air enters the little intake holes. Some ears might perceive it as a whistle.
    This reminds me of about my very first thought upon using the Grasshopper. It was, "This thing should have been called the Cricket, what with all this clicking (on & off for every hit!)."
    Also, real sorry to hear about out-of-the box issue with backend. Seems you should have heard back by now. Spam folder?
     
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  24. newVaper420

    newVaper420 Vapor Enthusiast

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    Off-topic but sure :-). A CO2 Cart thing is a pre-filled liquid cart similar to an e-cigarette, but using CO2 extraction techniques to get the THC and stuff out.

    Check out:
    http://greenwavevape.com/
    http://liveneos.com/strains/

    I understand those are hard to come by in non-legal states (as we are in one), but sometimes your connection might have them. Never hurts to ask. LOL

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    Back on topic - I'm curious to see how well the Grasshopper performs. I'm excited that people are comparing this to a somewhat portable Cloud Evo (which is the top in my books).

    I only bought one extra battery and have been contemplating ordering a few more, but I don't want to mess with my order, or do another order with the mailing charges.

    LOL. I'm gonna hold out.
     
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  25. vapviking

    vapviking Well-Known Member

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    Thanks for the off topic education. Will wonders never cease?
    Two batteries will marginally hold you, depending, of course...
    Maybe get a couple more on order as soon as you have shipping confirmation, or prudently wait to see if you actually like Hopping.
     
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