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The Firefly 2 vaporizer

Discussion in 'Portable Vaporizers' started by RobDaBomb, Jan 2, 2016.

  1. biohacker

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    Thanks so much @JCat !! :rockon: It was a combination of your feedback and experience as well as this girl at about 17:40 into the video that just made me pull the trigger!

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  2. buckhakeesah

    buckhakeesah Well-Known Member

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    I think the two pad technique is a great idea that I'll try next time. There's quite a bit of goo that ends up on the glass on the lid as the vapor travels through the glass lined vapor path. This should help with efficiently getting all your medicine to vaporize by sandwiching it between two pads.
     
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  3. Brewervapesalot

    Brewervapesalot Well-Known Member

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    I've been using my moded firefly 2 quite a lot lately. Use a sewing needle and tack hammer to ever so slightly increase hole size, over pack slightly, set on high, and stir every toke---and the vapor is quite nice and easy flowing!
     
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  4. JCat

    JCat Well-Known Member Accessory Maker

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    Yep. That's about right! That's how it works for me too! I hope you like it man :)

    I don't find stirring is really even necessary if it is packed right.
     
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  5. biohacker

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    What's packed right? Full slight tamp? Not planning on using it for herb but any tips will help testing processes! Can't wait to taste the rosin!
     
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  6. JCat

    JCat Well-Known Member Accessory Maker

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    I've only had a couple (literally I think two) bowls of flowers in it, and both times it worked great ... I fill with a light grind (SCS grind) so it's slightly overfull (think meniscus) and lightly tap down and place lid ... no stirring required.

    With flowers it does get a little messy with the vapour path ... and my main use of this device is on the go, so sandwiched concentrate pads for the win for me (can store 8 pre-loaded pairs of concentrate pads in 2 3mL dabware containers so I'm ready for on-the-go)
     
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  7. biohacker

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    Messy with flowers but not rosin? How much are you loading between those pads? .05g? And how many pad sandwiches can you go through on a single charge? 2-3? Do you have a spare battery?
     
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  8. petey

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    Do you have to take the FF apart to do this?

    I've been having serious draw restrictions myself lately, probably due to trying out some hash. I was initially fooled because I could see a glow through almost all the holes, but after a lot of (difficult) needle work, heat, and upside-down ISO, I improved the flow significantly. I'd love to find an easier way, though.
     
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  9. biohacker

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    How did you execute the hash? Just crumbling direct into the bowl? My plan is to use some wisps of degummed hemp fibre on the bottom of the bowl and see how it goes, or on top of the mesh pad?
     
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  10. petey

    petey Well-Known Member

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    No, I sandwiched shavings in between top and bottom layers of flower -- but, of course, the stirring allowed the broken-down hash to settle to the bottom. I did this a couple of sessions before realizing I was just about fainting trying to draw any air from even a clean chamber.
     
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  11. amethystwolf

    amethystwolf Well-Known Member

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    I really want to love the Firefly 2. But the battery! Damn, the battery! The only way I can use it is to keep it on the charger all the time. It lasts for about an hour max if not on the charger. I have the wall charger, but that battery drains fast, even when not in use.

    I'd imagined being able to take this places, but it's strictly a use at home vape since we are tethered to the charge. Is this normal or is it just mine?

    Also, I can't seem to get it to vape evenly. I'm using a coarse grind. Any tips on how to get it to vape evenly. Temp is 420. I'm starting to wonder if I got a defective unit, but it's probably user error. ;-)
     
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  12. Pimpslapper

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    Is it the blinking red lights on the battery?
    If so tip I got here is to clean the male battery bits with iso qtips. Otherwise exchange battery before use. Sometimes from idle it goes to flashing red but has nothing to do with battery life. The iso tip got rid of it for me.

    Wall charger =external charger?
    If not get one! You can charge a battery in 40 minutes with a decent power bank.
    With two batteries you are set for an all nighter out.

    You gotta stir to get even extraction.
    Some put a nug in whole. Take two hits flip,Take two more.crush and stir a take a few more.
    Some finger break up the nug.
    I have tried the above two and a coarse grind and all worked well for me
     
  13. mitchgo61

    mitchgo61 I go where the thrills are

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  14. amethystwolf

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    It is the blinking red light - I will try cleaning, thanks!

    Yep, wall charger. The company sent me one at no charge when I emailed them about battery problems. My experience has been that the battery doesn't hold a charge for long after being charged up with wall charger. Maybe this will improve after cleaning the batteries.

    Thanks for the nug and stirring tips. I'll try all of this - headed up the mountain this weekend. Firefly gets to come LOL.
     
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  15. Pimpslapper

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    Forgot to mention it will happen if the unit is too cold as well.
    If that is the case 4-5 times trying should get it to work or switching out the battery.
    Good luck!
     
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  16. JCat

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    I've had this issues :)

    I can get "up-to" 5 ... 4 on average. (as you note above, I've had the flashing issue as of the 2nd bowl in really cold weather)

    Yesterday, I didn't get through my 3rd bowl without some trouble ... but it was about colder than -40C with wind chill .... (luckily had a spare battery). Don't have the external charger yet, but do place it on the cradle using a USB battery pack and use a hair elastic wrapped around the unit and the cradle to keep them locked together while in my bag :)

    As for messy with flowers and not ... the resin from both gets all down the vapour path, but with flowers you also get little pieces of flower all over the place stuck in the resin! When it's just the resin it cleans up really well after each use with a piece of blue shop towel or a dried off alcohol wipe (I find they are too wet at first so drying them a bit by squishing in a paper towel first works wonders). The little pieces of flower make it a little more of a pain!

    I'm loading maybe a grain of rice size ... maybe a touch less on avg between the pads.

    ... think I answered all your questions now @biohacker ... :lol:
     
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  17. Brewervapesalot

    Brewervapesalot Well-Known Member

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    Packing loose up to the brim requires less stirring or even no stirring. But you'll get substantially bigger clouds anbd vapor production by over packing and stirring each hit (to prevent charring or uneven cooking).

    I usually over pack and stir each hit, and this on the modified unit with twice the air flow, because it consistently produces big clouds and great flavor without me thinking about the pack amount. It's just a bit more work to stir each time. But a routine that works...

    The alternative is to try to get the pack "just right" and have whispier, more inconsistent, vapor production, among some great hits.

    Flavor is outstanding either way.

    No. I just gently tapped the the holes with a needle and small tack hammer. Try a few holes then use it. See if you like it.

    I think you could make the holes too big as others have done by drilling, but that's why the needle method.

    Probably expanding 50% of the holes is what mine is at and I don't use the un-modded one any more I like it so much.

    I was at a point the pull was way too hard and cleaning out holes was so frequent and a pain it was either mod or move on to another brand vaporizer

    I will mod my other unit at some point. Cleaning is much better and waaaaaay less frequent
     
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  18. JCat

    JCat Well-Known Member Accessory Maker

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    It's primarily a concentrate vape for me, but both flower bowls I tried I didn't stir, packed full with a light tamp down, and got actually quite huge clouds ... a few of them, very tasty, and at that point the bowl was cached in my estimation.

    Both of these bowls were with ~25% thc cannabis that produces huge vapour though ... with lesser cannabis (like my really flavourful ~15% super lemon haze) clouds might not be so big?
     
  19. Brewervapesalot

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    That will work, but stirring each time and over packing will be bigger clouds and more of them. It's not even close; I'd prefer the easier/lazier way but the results are not quite as good.
     
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  20. JCat

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    Got it. Thing is, having to stir is a deal breaker for me. I absolutely refuse! :lol:

    I use portables, for portability ... ie. that generally means outside. So having to lift the cover and stir in the wind, snow, or a light rain, is definitely seriously undesirable!

    Like I said though ... mainly use it for concentrates and it kills for that! And gotta' love the Hopper for herb when it's working! (No stirring required ... great outside even in a snow storm with my little 14mm GonG attachable Zapubbler :) )
     
  21. biohacker

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    I just watched a couple of review videos (vape critic) and he doesn't actually open it up but rather taps it against his hand. Apparently if it's packed right (not too loose or too tight) it's enough to stir it.

    But like you, it's all about the rosin tech! I can't wait to taste it!
     
  22. JCat

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    Yeah ... I don't think the stirrings necessary if packed right for that, but what @Brewervapesalot is saying he likes to pack it good and tight for full effect, and stir. (Don't think shaking/tapping would do much in this case)

    I really did get big clouds the couple times I used it with herb with no stirring. @Brewervapesalot is saying I would have gotten bigger if I packed tighter and stirred

    ... I think I'm rambling ... damn that rosin is good!
     
  23. Brewervapesalot

    Brewervapesalot Well-Known Member

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    Yeah that's all I'm saying...

    As for portability, the firefly 2 just isn't really portable if you're on the go and active. Hate to say it but that's the reality.

    I mean if I'm out and about skiing or hiking or boating or whatever and want to quickly toke and refill.... I'll role a pax 2. Light years better on the go when doing something. Idiot proof, stealth, and longer lasting, and can toss a whole nug in without grinding; none of those things ring true with a firefly 2. The pax 2 is also basically water resistant to a point rain is no bother. The firefly 2--- I would have busted a long time ago trying to use it where I do a pax 2.

    The reality is that a firefly 2 can't survive a drop, it's a two handed, sit down fill and use, it is anything but water resistant, and it's just finicky and fragile outside the car, home, or backpack.

    Best, if not the only time to use is, when you have time to sit and enjoy.

    So I use the firefly 2 solo, or with another, when I am at home and want quick, cordless, flavorful rips without the time or hassle for letting the corded Evo heatup.

    Plenty of time for an over fill and stir each time there. One to two packs and medicated very well. Fill loose up to the top and it's two packs minimum, usually more, before the same level of medicated..

    Basically, I think the only way to even come remotely close to a Evo type hit, or session, with that big vapor production, consistently, is to over fill and stir each time.

    Also, my unit is modded with half the draw resistance and slightly larger holes. That probably changes the best way to use it
     
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  24. scouse

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    Well guys I've owned mine about 10mths it was a big purchase for me as I'm terminaly ill with emphysema lung condition but I still need my weed to sleep as I I make my own oil I wanted something that worked for both concentrates and flower as I can only take one hit and put it down so with this I don't waste any also I use it daily would I buy it again yes in a heartbeat . For concentrate s it absolutely rocks for herb it's great besides the stiring and you will taste your weed like youd never imagined
     
  25. petey

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    Okay, thanks. I've been confused because the bottom plate is almost touching the oven plate below -- which is what makes it so hard to stick a needle through. Seems like any force (such as a tack hammer) could damage the plate below. But maybe I'll give it a careful try next time I'm clogged.
     

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