Discussion in 'Plug-in Vaporizers' started by Rockwise, Jan 5, 2010.
how do those ss tubes compare to the stock silicone arizer tube? are they just colered PVC?
haha sounds awesome! do let us know how it ends up!
Ill be buying that $65 kit and the micro cooler kit for my portable vapes, looks good. any one got one?
is the whip any good? do you prefer using the water pipes more than anything else?
using the whip reminds me of using smoking from a shisha lol
from what i have heard they are a better quality than stock.
The 7th Floor SSV colored tubing is super soft food grade vinyl. I have purple, yellow and clear, and will buy different colors my next order.
Arizer tubing, 5/16" id,I 7/16" od,
SSV 3/8" id , 1/2" od
1/16" wall thickness is standard thickness for all whip vapes.
There is a thread on FC just about tubing, and it's a good read.
I prefer the SSV tubing to Arizers, and I enjoy Ddave's tubing that came with his kits. I find these easier to slide on and off, have not yet broken an elbow.
I have black silicone tubing from HoneyLabs, and while I like it, it does act like a magnet for dust, pet hair, etc.
SSV tubing being an eency bit bigger isn t a problem.
I think they are.
Let us know about the micro cooler kit.
Tried the catnip. It was crazy fun for hours. I'll write about it soon, but am trying to figure out how to combine responses so mods don't get mad...
And my response is embedded with your question...
when you say you prefer it to Arizer's tubing, do you mean to Arizer's silicone or PVC tubing? ( I assume silicone) Other than ease of handling, any other difference, maybe tastewise?
and thanks, i have read the thread you mention (and others on the topic). only diference i gather from what i've read (and experience with my diy vape) is what the own SSV webste says: difference is it doesn't get as dirty as silicone and it comes in colors. But other than dirt management, I've never had good experience with transparent PVC (plastic taste is always there for me, even after months, and too rigid shape), so I was wondering how different the SSV tubes were from normal food grade PVC. Using some sort of sheath solves exterior dirt and kink problems with silicone, and flavor never gets plastic taste, but with time it does start stinking of vaped weed.
BTW, from the several thread talking about tubing and a little googling, i believe "food grade" labeling isn't enough when choosing a tube: some food grade only have a 180 C max temp rating, while others have 260 C max rating. I imagine SSV has appropiate heat ratingg on their tubes, but I would't pick a tube that isnt' rated at least to 450 F / 230 C . If SSV tubings are rated to my likes, i might consider buying some feet. i think the bad exp i've had with PVC is because regardless of being food grade, it might have not been rated for the high temps i reach vaping.
EDIT: Woa! I had not noticed DDave sells silicone tubing, and in two types: rigid or flexible!!! I have to buy a ddave mod soon so I think i just found where i'll buy muy next tubing! Curious to see the rigid version! @DDave , does the rigid one also end up smelling alot like normal felxible silicone tubes?
The material composition between thick and thin whip tubing I offer is identical. So between my thin and thick tubing they will react the same.
Not all silicone tubing is the same though, so I can't comment on comparison of mine versus another's.
UPDATE ON MY UNIT:
YAY! I just received my replacement heat cover and screen kit from Puffitup, and the unit is up and running. I didn't put the mica piece back in because it flakes alot. I did confirm the deformed part of my mica piece is not the one in contact with the heater, so it mustve been from pressure or something else. If it hadn't been flaking, I'd have put it back in. I was scared all my pcb and interior cleaning could have damaged the pcb and would get an error code or something, but no.. everything is smoothly running. The exterior of the unit does get hotter than expected
Once again I'm doing a 15 min sterlization. 10 minutes in and no AVB smell now, but i am getting a little hair drier smell when i get my nose close to the heater? I assume it's the steel from the new screen of the heat cover.
so in 5 minutes will be doing an elbow pack and at night i have some friends coming over with alot of weed and will be trying the cyclone bowl. I hope i have enogugh money soon to order a ddaave mod and some tubing.
Agan thanks for all the input and for keeping this thread alive!
EDIT (about 20 mins after): Ok, I just had the elbow hit, at 230 C after a 20 min preheat at 260 C. About 1/2 of the basket screen was filled and tamped. First two hits, instant vapor and niiiice taste; third hit started the popcorn taste. I remove elbow and take a look. It's brown, specially at the center.. so I stir a bit, put back on, and take a few final hits until it tasted completely popcorn.
I'm freaking high! I just realized i may have set the unit too hot, but darn, it was nice. Maybe at a lower temp the pocorn taste would have come larter.
Here are some pics... BTW, that AVB (photos 2 and 3) looks much greener on the photo.. i really can't see any green when i look at it, just in the photo. Oh, and i saved the white covers from the broken heater and use in on the elbow to grab it when hot and am going to find a way to fit one on the bowl.
I love this kit just ran out of caps only thing I notice is I have to use 0.100-0.125 grams per cap and I only seem to be able to get about 0.6 grams in thechamber to decarb every hour
Just tried elbow packing for the first time and also the scuba method and oh my! WOW!!!
Only managed to get through the balloon bag once (about 4 inhales) and after a few hours a fresh bowl but this time I did the scuba method with the elbow packing. I was totally medicated!
Just amazes with the Ddave stuff it will be so much better. Wow. Can't wait to get it!
I'm glad it's working out so well.
I have found the Arizer EQ has vastly improved my life for the better. I used it for about a month before I got my DDave kit, and was very happy with it. The DDave Mods made it even more versatile. Still experimenting with all of the various pieces and configrations, but most often grab the 18mm wand and shorty bowl because it's so easy and delivers powerful hits.
Blue Cookies are today's tasty treat. Yum!
So, tip for newbies with the unit: be really careful with what touches your heater!
I used a tooth brush to clean mine before the bedtime vaping and it must have been still hot from the afternoon because some bristle hair tips melted on the screen and passed through to the ceramic. I only noticed this after noticing hits didn't taste at all like weed and there was too much vapor coming compared to previous sessions, also my throat is messed up now.
here is what it looked like before i tried scraping it. scrapping it led to chipping and now it looks like in the second photo.
unit works, but there is a wierd smell even after 30 minutes on (10 minutes at 185, 10 at 200 and 10 at 230C). I hope i can remove that smell and still use it somehow.
yes elbow packing is nice. cyclone bowl isn't bad either if you fill it almost full. i thought it would be worse.
Yup the Ddave mod looks very comprehensive(full kit). Interested to try it with so many options. When you mention water piece what type are you using and I'm assuming it's effective (I remember you mentioned it a few posts back)
Do you have the fan on when using the wand?
I used the cyclone first few times and found I needed more material to get same level of results as elbow packing. You can actually use less material via elbow packing which is good overall for me!
hehehe just to clarify .... do you hit directly from the wand?
And i understand you, i am quite happy with the unit as it ... very excited to see how much de mod improves it.
oh yeah, definitely, elbow pack is more efficient and for just me vaping i would also go elbow packing. I was just meaning that if you have weed to spare, cyclone isn't that bad, specially with several people where packing the elbow for each one wasn't so fun for me when i had to do it.
Ahh yes then I agree cyclone is good for that, it wasn't bad at all, but funny how you move the material a tiny amount and it makes sooo much difference! Extremely happy with the EQ and glad I got it!
A refill pack.
Put up this listing more for convenience. Other vendors who deal solely in these fillable capsules can offer better pricing on much larger quantities. (thousands or tens of thousands).
Where are all the creative canna-kooks out there? 'Cannabis Consumers' have always been relentlessly imaginative when it comes to getting, uh, medicated. No one has figured this out yet?
No elbow pack derailments, please. I've tried a few things to use the S & B Capsules:
Putting a screen on top of it - only worked once but was great and showed that the concept was completely doable.
Put cotton around it and a screen - too much trouble.
Put foil around it and a screen - worked okay but not great, and a hassle to get it in there.
I'm gonna do this somehow - the capsules are just too convenient, and some of the potential of this device untapped. Can't find anything or any pictures yet.
just trying to add ideas, sorry if it's not good one: what if you put the capsule on top of the heater (with an extra scren between the heater and the capsule, then put on the cyclonebowl. With a whip, i imagine sucking would make the capsule shift up and kindof seal against the underside of the screen rim of the cyclone bowl. i even imagine this accomplishin maybe the hybrid effect of the SBs vapes.
I have the tubing and mouth piece attached. Lately I've had the wand, tubing, and small bong attached. Now that I'm not being beaten every day of my life, I find I am content with the 14mm DDave wand, SSV tubing, and SSV mouthpiece.
What's the most fun thing for you about your Arizer EQ?
Thanks for the warning. Sorry that happened to you. Housework is such a bad idea -this is what happens.
Ahh ok, I'm looking to get the Ddave stuff in June sometime hopefully!
I love it's affordability and the fact it can be used in every way possible.
However I have to thank sneaky pete for the advice regarding the scuba method.
That is just insane and nothing can touch it in terms of getting me medicated.
Do make sure you have plent of time to play with as the effects hit you hard and for a very long time...be warned people!
Hey, as long as it's NOT about the elbow pack, , it's a good idea! (already a lot around on this, here and elsewhere (dead horse removed - see quote below. It was starting to smell ...)).
I'm gonna start looking at your idea to see what I can do with it.
Actually, the first time I did elbow pack, I found it to be such a dramatic change! It was like a totally new vaporizer and can micro dose so many benefits.
I also did a elbow pack with my first scuba method.
Basically just breathe in and out of the balloon without taking a break - this seriously messes you up and please do be careful!
(Some of you may have tried it already and had little to no effect but for me it was a game changer!)
I knew I was baiting myself ... oh well.
Actually, my brain can only work in one channel at a time because all of the others are completely full with my computer hardware and software going wrong constantly.
There are a lot of posts on elbow on this thread, so that's why I'm asking about something that's not already covered here (or anywhere?)
Ahh similar to me! I'm a techie on call lol
The scuba method can work with elbow AND cyclone so you can still venture in to the abyss with something totally new
Well, first, i don't have the EQ, I have the v-tower (2017 model), which is an EQ without the balloon function related parts. Up to now, i've liked how easy it's been to fix my screw ups with it, and the low cost. Also, being able to easily disassemble the unit allowed me to verify all the "dirty airpath" and "mica piece" debates. that is nice too.
Oh, and after my "fix" of the ceramic heater, i opened it again, checked nothing was melting, and rearranged the heater screen, and voila! no more smell or anything strange and it's back working as it had been before i got that brush melted in there. I am i little worried my scraping left small particles around, i did my best to get all that out, though. It seems it's all good, but I did start saving money again for a new vape. I'm aiming for a E-Nano or a VXL or a Plenty or a Mighty, but i'f i get too anxious or paranoid about my vape, i might stop half way through and just buy another Arizer unit. I'm really happy with it.
I have to accept that even thought i've read all the posts on this thread, i kinda didn't pay too much attention to the ones concerning the SB capsules, so not sure if maybe my idea was just something i read in older posts, but i hope it works.
hahahaha the scuba technique (if i understand correclty what it is) is something i used to do when combusting and when i was running out of weed or didn't want too much smell in my room, and it sure works! just be aware you are inhaling you own CO2, and that's part of why it "hits" hard.
Exactly but didn't know it would hit that hard! And in fairness I did it with a fresh bowl
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