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The ELEV8R from 7th Floor

Discussion in 'Portable Vaporizers' started by 7thFloorVapes, Dec 11, 2017.

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Want to try it out?

Poll closed Dec 19, 2017.
  1. Yes

    19 vote(s)
    22.1%
  2. Hell Yeah

    55 vote(s)
    64.0%
  3. No, thank you

    12 vote(s)
    14.0%
  1. Diggy Smalls

    Diggy Smalls Tom Cruises

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    @alex91 I tried to get away with using a small vapcap style torch lighter, but found it mostly futile. Heat up times that make the lighter dangerous to hold. They aren't designed to be used for 2 minutes straight.

    I got a little torch named This Thing Rips, and it works wonderfully. A very fast heating at higher temp will give a little different results than lower hear with longer heat up.

    I recommend go lower hear for around 40 seconds and then experiment from there. At full blast I'm only heating for 20 seconds. Reheat is even faster.
     
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  2. LabPong

    LabPong Well-Known Member

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    No...those small mini torches with multiple jets are not enough. You will need a sizable torch, I use the Blazer Big Buddy Turbo, they have one with a larger jet output..the Blazer Big Shot.....it works but probably over kill with using more butane than really needed, but yea it will be faster heating.

    I got 2 of the Big Buddy Turbo's on the net for less than $28 each.
     
  3. Alexis

    Alexis Peace keeper, fun maker and 3/4 time vaporist.

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    Jason told me by email about a month ago it is coming along but he couldn't say whether it would be completed by June or July.
     
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  4. LabPong

    LabPong Well-Known Member

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    My money is on July......though my needs are April 2018....haaaaa
     
  5. Alexis

    Alexis Peace keeper, fun maker and 3/4 time vaporist.

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    My Digi Herbo Ti was practically promised for end of March/April! :\ Then May! No more updates.
    It sucks but what can we do hey but make do and survive as best we can do in the meantime with the tools of survival we have at our disposal?;)
     
  6. alex91

    alex91 Active Member

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    Is quartz much better overall? I’m itching to buy this vape and not sure it’s worth waiting for or If I should just buy the current model.
     
  7. Alexis

    Alexis Peace keeper, fun maker and 3/4 time vaporist.

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    We have no idea or feedback yet on exactly how and how much quartz heaters will be different. It is logocally accepted/assumed it will be a step up as it has better heat retention and should hold a more stable hea6 for a longer time so great for you torch guys who may be able to take 2 large lungbusters (maybe even with a hold) per heat up.

    I have no personal experience or knowledge of course but really besides possible performance improvements the biggest attraction is the increased durability of the heater.
    You could always get the vape now and get a quartz heater later on it's no big deal really it's up to you if you want to wait potentially another five or six weeks who knows it could be much sooner.
     
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  8. alex91

    alex91 Active Member

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    Thank you. I guess I’m gonna wait then.

    Just an FYI, I did send an email to them today asking If there’s a ETA for the quartz and they said there isn’t yet, but I guess I should take it with a grain of salt.
     
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  9. LabPong

    LabPong Well-Known Member

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    MAbud....how did it work out for you?
     
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  10. Mozy

    Mozy Solo II, Flipbrick, Elev8r

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    Just ordered one. Totally in love with my solo II and my flipbrick but I want a true dual use vape incase i ever come across some concentrates or I wanna make some.

    I have no idea how big my torch should be, I can't seem to find any double flame torches in my part of the world. Can some of you guys point me towards what you guys use and what you recommend?


    Does this one live up to it? https://www.gefu.com/en/kitchen-too...product/creme-brulee-profi-brenner-fuego.html

    Actually wanted a creme brulee burner cause my previous one broke so I don't mind dishing out some extra cause it will be used for actual cooking too.
     
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  11. MAbud

    MAbud Well-Known Member

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    Big Shot Blazer. Best torch on the market
     
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  12. Mozy

    Mozy Solo II, Flipbrick, Elev8r

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    How do I get one in the EU without paying my ass off in shipping fees?

    Also the big shot is 2600 F (wich is 1300 C.) and the one I linked is also 1300 c. Won't I get the same result?
     
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  13. Abysmal Vapor

    Abysmal Vapor Shaman of The Pyramid of Orlin'Malah

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    Hey Bro ! There are a few shops selling them in the EU but they aint cheap,almost the same if you have ordered from the US..
    https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Blazer-Big-Shot-GT8000-Butane-DAB-Torch-/173203029228
    https://dabbing.de/produkt/blazer-big-shot-gt8000/
    http://www.smokinggear.dk/shop/482-dabbing/6567-blazer-big-shot-gt-8000/
    http://www.rygegrej.dk/shop/482-dabbing/6567-blazer-big-shot-gt-8000/
    http://www.gallery710.com/shop/accessories/blazer-big-shot-torch-gt8000/
    https://www.pacoartcenter.gr/el/flo...0186c-paralavi-mono-apo-katastima-348112.html
    https://upinsmoke.org.uk/Blazer-Big-Shot-Turbo-Torch.html
    https://www.namastevaporizers.co.uk/products/higher-standards-blazer-big-shot-gt8000
    https://vapefiend.co.uk/products/blazer-big-shot-gt-8000-torch
    https://www.everyonedoesit.co.uk/products/big-shot-gt8000
    http://smokers-lounge.co.uk/blazer-big-shot-gt-8000-industrial-torch.html
    https://www.shivaonline.co.uk/shop/...s/products/blazer-big-shot-gt8000-torch-.html
    https://jahvaporizer.com/home/23191937-torche-big-shot-highet-standards-blazer.html
    I think that the Ebay deal will be the best in your case.. but you can look the others up. I just pasted top hits from a search engine tuned to look in EU sites.
    Other than that look up for Blazer Big Buddy or Rosle Torch it is very nice and has 5 years warranty,it will do the job for you. If want something cheap but effective my favorite chinese torch is the Honban's BS-600 i got mine for 11$ locally ,Flame is monstrous like 30 CM...
     
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  14. Mozy

    Mozy Solo II, Flipbrick, Elev8r

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    Oh thank you! the vapefiend one looks pretty good, cheapest one out of the bunch. Gonna look into that. But won't the one I linked give me the same result for almost half the price? I mean 2500 F flame is a 2500 F flame, no matter the torch. Or am I missing something?
     
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  15. LabPong

    LabPong Well-Known Member

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    I have been using the Blazer Big Buddy Turbo. Here is a link for you in your part of the globe.

    Got 2 of them and they are perfect for the Elev8r. The bigger one, Big Shot will use up more fuel. The Big Buddy is more than enough power and I always use it on the lowest possible setting. Just use high quality fuel and you are set.
     
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  16. Mozy

    Mozy Solo II, Flipbrick, Elev8r

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    Won't send to the Netherlands according to ebay. And with postage it is way more expensive than the one I myself found.

    But can anyone actually answer my question? I found one from a dutch website that ships to me in one day for free. According to the website the temp of the flame is the same as the Big Buddy and the Big Shot. Why should I spend 30-50% more for some branding? Or is there something else I'm overlooking?
     
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  17. Abysmal Vapor

    Abysmal Vapor Shaman of The Pyramid of Orlin'Malah

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    Hey bro ! The small torches are also 1200 C,but it is important how many watts of power does it have or calories in this case. Temperature and ammount of energy are two different things.
    Larger flame size more watts. It is important how big the flame of torch ,how long and how wide .
    I will check on youtube if there are videos of the torch you listed :).
     
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  18. Mozy

    Mozy Solo II, Flipbrick, Elev8r

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    Hmh oke. Really in doubt about what to do. Spend 55 bucks on a big buddy and let it ship from the US (maybe extra tax when it comes into the country.) Or get a 38 buck one that I'm unsure about if it's powerful enough. It looks pretty much the same as the big buddy, the pictures show a big flame and it's pretty high quality.
     
  19. Abysmal Vapor

    Abysmal Vapor Shaman of The Pyramid of Orlin'Malah

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    https://www.kookeli.com/product/blazer-big-buddy-torch-black/ <------------ This looks like an awesome deal with cheap EU shipping,but they got only 2 . 34.50 GBP shipped to NL
    https://www.hswalsh.com/product/blazer-big-buddy-soldering-torch-tt386
    https://vapefiend.co.uk/products/big-buddy-torch-by-blazer
    https://upinsmoke.org.uk/Blazer-Big-Buddy-Turbo-Torch.html
    http://www.rashbel.co.uk/blazer-big-buddy-butane-torch-8004487
    http://www.littlefreckle.co.uk/blazer-big-buddy-blow-torch/
     
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  20. Mozy

    Mozy Solo II, Flipbrick, Elev8r

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    All this work you put in, I just had to get the big buddy. The Kookeli didn't ship to NL ( I guess the fact it's a torch is a problem or something) so I ordered one from vapefiend. They also offer pretty fast shipping so I'm very happy.
     
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  21. Abysmal Vapor

    Abysmal Vapor Shaman of The Pyramid of Orlin'Malah

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    Haha,it is really nothing, i have my search engine tuned right and it is pretty easy to find deals. Glad you got it sorted out ,vapefiend service is indeed topnotch. I would have gotten a big buddy too long time ago,but i am really happy with my BS-600 torch, and i cant really justify spending 5-6 times that much for a more quality torch.. I would rather buy 6 of these in the long run .. :)
     
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  22. LabPong

    LabPong Well-Known Member

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    Just got word from 7th Floor....looks like we are still 2-3 weeks out on the quartz heaters.

    EDIT....after re-reading my email.....it is 2 to 4 weeks out! :cry:
     
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  23. Alexis

    Alexis Peace keeper, fun maker and 3/4 time vaporist.

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    You know Im really not sure if I need a quartz heater for any real reason except durability obviously.
    Maybe I am just naive here but I can't see how it will improve the experience and Performance with the coil setup currently and the glass heater. Surely functionally it will be the same it is just the heating properties- retention and Cooling etc which will be different and therefore will offer a substantial advantage when torching the heater for a longer, more stable window.

    So I'm not personally gagging for quartz myself because I'm only using the coil these days which is working fantastically. On that- I dropped my temps a lot yesterday. I have been riding the higher temperatures for rapid and Powerful extraction of any size bowls. Like 680 starting temp small bowl, going up to 710 or higher, sometimes starting at 695-700.

    Big bowl- starting temp 690-700 but often higher.

    So yesterday I loaded up the big bowl with a sizeable amount of Durban poison, and started the load at about 665/6 (unintentional, I ain't no Satanist now lol!) :disgust::evil::goon:

    Wow, gorgeous flavour I have been by-stepping. Real terpy hits, but BIG hits too. And boy did I remind myself how much more medicating these lower temperature extractions actually are.
    That bowl was amazing anyway I did step up into just over 700 which left me with dark ABV and total extraction.

    I vaped another bowl later on, from the other Durban plant, a diff pheno. Same temp 666, took 2 hits initially. Again, terp heaven, smooth but very good hits. I was totally wasted from it, and the Vapcap load just prior. Way more medicated than usual from the amount of vapor. I took a good hour out before I vaped the whole load off like Popeye on spinach! :cool:

    So I will be focusing on these lower temps from now on. The coil rig is so effective though, I have no desire to be torching any time soon.
    Anyone considering rigging up a coil I can recommend it if you can get it adjusted and working right so your temps are stable you simply can't beat the performance and extraction and the whole consistency of it.
     
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  24. LabPong

    LabPong Well-Known Member

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    Alexis......I normally use the coil at 680 for either the stock Elev8r bowl or my smaller adapter one. I use the bigger one for sativa's or whispy flowers. I can get pretty dark ABV with these temps on both bowls.

    As for the quartz....well I want it bad! Why.....because my heater did not last long. I want to know that I have a vape that can last like a flowerpot if possible.

    I think possibly the temps my hold longer in the quartz...so it could be better if you need/want to take quicker draws back to back. We will have to see how this turns out....maybe it wont be too much of a difference? I'm not sure as I have never dabbed or use quartz in vaping prior to this new Elev8r heater coming out soon.
     
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  25. Danksta

    Danksta Well-Known Member

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    I'm SO excited for the quartz. We will finally be able to really dial in our temps with cool downs.

    I love this vape. My only issue is getting consistent results. The quartz should offer better results due to the heat retention.

    Thanks for getting this done @7thFloorVapes :tup:
     
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