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The CVault - Climate Controlled Storage

Discussion in 'Vapor Related Equipment' started by vtac, Nov 10, 2011.

  1. stickstones

    stickstones Wasted Staff Member

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    I don't know about smell, but I have been very pleased with how the c-vault seems to get all the different buds (strains) to the same 'cure'. I put all my herbs in there in their own open bags and it gets them to about the same dryness and feel.
     
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  2. vapirtoo

    vapirtoo Well-Known Member

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    I have the smallest c-vault and have found that while the bud stays moist,- good for my vapolution-
    the smell all but disappears. The vape taste is still good as is the effect, but that wonderful smell has lessened dramatically. I do open the vault at least twice a day to pick out some buds and close it back quickly.
    I like the vault but thought the smell would stay strong; it doesn't.

    Ictus and I seem to have noticed the same thing.
     
  3. ictus

    ictus Well-Known Member

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    I took out the humidipack from my medium CV with the mango in it last night. Just took a whiff and seems the smell was a bit stronger again, but not as much as before.

    I have not a theory but a guess as to what may be happening. I'm no chemist but what if this is about the direction of moisture movement?

    I see two different states affecting this. Based on what I did with my herbs.

    1) Get some very fresh bud, store in regular jar. Since the air is dry, moisture is given off mostly in one direction: the buds give their moisture to the air. I've alway thought that more than just water might leave during this migration of the molecules. I base this on the fact that a cabinet I used to store my bong inside of developed a yellowing on the inside over a few years. So evaporating bong water took some other things with itobviously. That cabinet took repeated washes with 35% h2o2 and alcohol to clean..

    2) after giving off moisture for a few days, the buds are drier now. Then you place them into a CVault where the humidity is greater than the moisture content of the buds. At this point the moisture is moving in the other direction: the bud absorbs extra water from the air.

    So case 1 makes the air in the jar smell really good, maybe giving an exaggerated smell for a bit? The first jar I used was metal but had a thick removeable rubber gasket for the lid. I checked the gasket and it smells WAY more of mangos than my humidipack does. So maybe my bud was already losing fragrance because of the large gasket in the last jar?

    So maybe in case 2, simply because of the direction things are moving, the bud simply isn't giving off as much fragrance into the container, instead it's being more trapped by the incoming water, rather than hitching a ride along with the escaping humidity.

    Does this sound remotely possible to anybody?
     
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  4. Slightly Medicated

    Slightly Medicated (SliM) Iron Lungs

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    Could be that your Mango stuff was sprayed with something sweet smelling and the CVault pulled the smell out quicker. They could have sprayed a tiny amount of essential oil on the bud to make it smell good. If it was in the CVault it would considerably pull the smell out of the flowers quicker. I don't know where you get your medicine from... so I don't know how much of an option that is.

    I have never had a CVault alter the odor of my medicine. Never experienced anything like that. I currently use 6 CVaults of various sizes to store all my go to strains. Some of them have been in the CVault for months and are still just as good as the day I got them.
     
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  5. SD_haze

    SD_haze MMJ Vaporist

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    Even with full disassembly (removing the silicone ring) I have yet to rid the Cvault of my mold buds smell. Leaving it locked up for a few mins then opening and smelling it as the air escapes, it is unmistakable.

    I've only used dishsoap & hot water and nothing stronger, but maybe the smell might be locked into the synthetic ring. However, the stainless steel inside does have a weird "staining" that isn't at all like the outside.

    I've never heard of stainless steel retaining an odor after multiple thorough scrubbings, but there is that inner coating/staining that I can't really explain.


    Tried contacting Gary but he basically denied the fact that mold could grow in the humidity conditions and ended with "I have no answers for you" :\
    Since this was free after all, I have no hard feelings one way or another.
     
  6. ictus

    ictus Well-Known Member

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    Slightly medicated: yes I am certainly considering that possibility that i got weed altered with oil or something. I am actually running a side experiment with some crappy weed sealed with some mango slices. Been a day so far without much change, but some sort of concentrate spritz would probably be more effective. I do have some purple urkel in a small cvault that has been in for the same length of time and still smells of sweet lavender. Probably shoulda mentioned that in the above post too. Either this mango stuff just loses its smell quicker than other buds, or maybe it was a trick :p

    Sdhaze, I washed my rubber gasket (not cvault but normal mason jar) with ISO and soap but it didn't really do anything. But I've been just letting it sit out in the garage under bright fluorescent lights and the smell is less than yesterday by a lot. Not sure if it's the light exposure or open air time, but mabe leave your gasket out in the air for a few days?

    I wanted to get this gasket smell free because it will mask the smell of other strains when just cracking the jar slightly with this strong mango scent.
     
  7. luchiano

    luchiano Well-Known Member

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    I was wonder if you cleaned the cvault, and dried it upside down before storing your buds in it?.

    I ask this because it could be that somehow mold spores got into your vault, attached to some type of sticky substance inside the vault, and by giving them consistent moisture, and food(the cannabis) they were allowed to grow. Small in numbers, but still there.
     
  8. SD_haze

    SD_haze MMJ Vaporist

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    Nah they've never had anything in them since I started cleaning it. The smell being present without anything in there right from cleaning is the big sign.
     
  9. lwien

    lwien Well-Known Member

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    Ok, so I gotta question. I store my bud in those little very tight stainless Space Case tube containers that are very small and don't allow for very much air space once my bud is in there. I then store those Space Case containers in a mason jar.

    If I throw one of those Humidapacks inside the Mason Jar, do ya think it would help to keep things from drying out or being that the bud is separated from the pack by being in the Space Case tubes would either keep it from working, or worse, not take away moisture fast enough if it finds it's way in.
     
  10. ictus

    ictus Well-Known Member

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    I used a bit of double sided tape to stick one to the lid of a regular jar. Works great :). IMO only reason to spend money on cvaults is if you think they look sweet and you like storage porn.

    Edit lost the detail about one container being inside another. Might work... Would work better with tiny holes poked in the lid of the smaller containers... Though your buds might start to smell similar.
     
  11. t-dub

    t-dub Vapor Sloth

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    Don't forget ictus, they are made of "not glass" and are smelly proof, making them really good travel solutions for when driving "dirty" is not an option :)
     
  12. lwien

    lwien Well-Known Member

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    Did somebody say............storage porn ?

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  13. Vicki

    Vicki The Bionic Woman

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    That wine rack room is killer!!

    On topic, I still vacuum seal my stash in a mason jar. :)
     
  14. ictus

    ictus Well-Known Member

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    Wow... :o

    I also have another bit of the mango in a vacuum sealed mason jar in addition to what I have in the cvault. Really just because I was curious how the methods will compare. I just poked a tiny hole in the lid and used a vacuum pump, put a piece of scotch tape with the corner barely covering the hole, and held the tube up to it by hand. Obviously didn't get a perfect vacuum since I didn't use fittings, but I got it down to -28 no problem.
     
  15. Nosferatu

    Nosferatu Well-Known Member

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    I just recently purchased a small sized C-Vault, and absolutely love it. here is my review:

    For anyone who doesn't know what these are it is a stainless steel, air tight, cannabis storage jar. The lid has a slot for the included Boveda pack, so it keeps your herb at 10-13% moisture, and it works very well!

    http://www.thecvault.com/

    You can argue you can get a mason jar for much cheaper, but this has its upsides. namely being lightproof, so you can leave the jar in the sun all day no problem. You can put a 65% Boveda pack in any jar, but this comes with one and has a nice slot in the lid so its tucked away from your cannabis. Should last 2 months they say. The ring on the lid is way heavier duty than a normal jar and has three latches. You can drop this jar and it won't shatter wasting countless grams of medicine, a big upside most don't think of. And finally it doesn't look like a jar of weed to the uninitiated.

    I was excited to write this review for one reason though, the Boveda pack really works. My cannabis has been kept in the perfect state so far, which is never the case with my stash jar. Usually just after a few days of opening it the bud is all almost completely dry, but now it is kept soft and sticky, and the smell is not being lost at ALL. It's like the day it was ripped off it's branches. I am getting the best vapor I have in a while because the moisteure content really is perfect. I can honestly say i notice a difference after a few days of having some herb in here, It vapes quicker and fuller first hit, is the perfect consistency to handle and grind, soft but not too sticky. I love this jar so far! You guys should look into the different sizes if you're interested!
     
  16. photobooth

    photobooth Well-Known Member

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    Can you give a rough idea of how much cannabis comfortably fits in the small Cvault? I've been eying one at planetvape but unsure what size suits my needs.
     
  17. Enchantre

    Enchantre A short, pithy statement

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    I'm ordering two. Curse you...
     
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  18. Nosferatu

    Nosferatu Well-Known Member

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    Roughly 4 grams, maybe more.
     
  19. Stu

    Stu Maconheiro Staff Member

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  20. Nosferatu

    Nosferatu Well-Known Member

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    Oops! My bad! Maybe the mods will combine this with the other.
     
  21. vapirtoo

    vapirtoo Well-Known Member

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    I routinely put 7 grams into the small CVault with room to spare.
    The constant moisture of the herb is perfect for my vapolution which uses
    bud rolled into pellets.
     
  22. Enchantre

    Enchantre A short, pithy statement

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    I've ordered two medium c-vaults. Thanks.
     
  23. Physco Italiano

    Physco Italiano New Member

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    I'm so glad to see this review. I've been seriously considering getting one of these for about a week now, but haven't gotten any solid reviews other than "Dude, it works"

    How do you go about storing your extra Boveda packs without them drying up?
     
  24. smokum

    smokum I am who I am and your approval isn't needed!

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    I keep my packs in a ziplock bag inside an appropriate sized mason jar and it seems to work well for me (I also keep them in a cool dark place in the basement ;) )
     
  25. Nosferatu

    Nosferatu Well-Known Member

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    I only have one boveda pack now but will order some soon. I would guess they come in a package or something for long term storage until you want to use them, but I have no idea.

    Yeah it's effectively the exact same thing, you are paying for the novelty. I still think it is absolutely worth it though, I love the way it looks and it is surprisingly lightweight. I keep my big stash jars in the dark too but I am mainly trying to emphasize how this product is perfect for your daily stash jar. It's shallow, fashionable, stealthy, and keeps the buds fresh even though you open the jar 70 times a day to vape. It has also brought to my attention how bud with a proper moisture content doesn't irritate or dry the throat as much. I have certainly noticed that.
     

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