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The Crafty by Storz & Bickel

Discussion in 'Portable Vaporizers' started by Roger D, Oct 16, 2014.

  1. Little Bill

    Little Bill Oldest stoner on FC

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    If you are using the caps then you are filling the cap and not the chamber. Caps hold about 250 milligrams unless you really pack it tight. When you fill the cap don't pack it tight.

    The people who rave about the Crafty flavor are often low temp users. I start at 168c instead of the default 180c. I boost at 185c instead of the default 195c. I also use a concentrate pad to cover my load instead of using a cap and that might change the optimum temp for vapor so YMMV. The concentrate pad allows me to use a very small amount and still get good conduction.

    I suggest you try starting at lower temp maybe even 160c and raise the temp in small steps until you get some vapor and flavor. Also the Crafty has a very open draw and you can really get most of the goodies with a few powerful draws. Ease up a bit on your draw and focus on the flavor more than the vapor.

    With 70 milligrams I get 4-5 flavorful draws with some vapor at 168c. I boost to 185c and get another 4-5 draws with good vapor and some flavor. I do not draw as hard as I can because I have found that to be less satisfying for me.

    You will find over time that periodic cleaning will keep the flavor from falling off too. I replace and clean the concentrate pad more often than I need to clean the cooling unit. YMMV. :)
     
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  2. Nicola

    Nicola Member

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    It was the same for me. I'm also new to vape, only two months. I bought a Volcano, feeling very good. Then I've bought a crafty to vape outside and write here for the same problems. I also tried a pax 2 and a da vinci iq. Now i can say that the crafty will be not ever like a Volcano, but is good. My council is to use small amount like 0.1 with the liquid pad on top and use temperature like 180 or less, and go to high temperature only when there is no more vapor, for the last 2/3 hints. In my opinion da vinci iq has better and longer flavour, but also very minor vapor, no satisfaction.
     
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  3. Stu

    Stu Maconheiro Staff Member

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    Shameless cross post from the Vape Temp Charts thread.

    Here is a temp chart of the Crafty that I just ran at 185°C.

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    I think Storz & Bickel did a pretty nice job with their design of the Crafty/Mighty by minimizing the heat in the chamber before/between draws.

    Bonus boring video of the test:

    Click to play YouTube Video


    I thought that I was in frame of the IR camera during the draws, but sadly it was angled to the right too much to catch the Crafty in action (which was my plan). :doh:

    :peace:
     
  4. SirCrackKillaH

    SirCrackKillaH Active Member

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    I'm curious to see what it'll read. The MV1 I was getting an exterior temp of 102f on the outside when I was blasting it a little. Warm but not bad. The IQ was at 107f. I never tried doing this with the crafty or mighty but I can't really see the outside of those getting up to temperatures like that. Maybe the cooling unit.. actually for sure the cooling unit. Yo, if your going to do that, angle it towards that cooling unit or at least get a read off that as well as the lower portion. The cooling unit I think is what gets the crazy heat build up. I'm curious to know what that gets up to. Shoot, I think I might check that tonight for the hell of it. I got one of them too but it doesn't give a visual like that predator type stuff man. That shit is cool. FLIR makes that stuff. That shit has been always outside of my price range man
    >.<
     
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  5. Stu

    Stu Maconheiro Staff Member

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    Here you go Mr. killer of crack. I made this just for you. ;)
    Click to play YouTube Video


    Happy New Year everyone.:cheers:


    :peace:
     
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  6. Kentucky Wax

    Kentucky Wax Active Member

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    It died after 54 hours, around 3 months old. I've sent it back and am waiting to see if they send me yet another one. (in the meantime I've bought a Solo 2 and it's awesome)
     
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  7. SirCrackKillaH

    SirCrackKillaH Active Member

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    Glorious bro! Awesome! Yoooo Happy New Years peoples!

    The top of that thing is actually pretty hot then. No wonder it burns the hell outta me sometimes. That's like a temp range of 84f-138f on the exterior.

    Yooo, imma temp check that glass spacer for the IQ after a session when I get home later tonight. Thaaaatt thing gets wicked crazy stupid hot man. F'in practically bored a hole through my hand when I made the mistake of trying to remove it immediately after a session by flipping the device upside down and smacking it out into my hand. Theres like a momentary second before you realize it's burning the fuck outta you, then it's like owwww owwww owwww owwwww as your trying to bounce it hand to hand cause it's like a $10 piece of glass you don't wanna throw on the floor. Yooo, those dosing capsules same deal but the heat retention doesn't seem to last as long as them glass spacers man and I don't care if I dump a dosing capsule onto a floor, them' made of steel man. Iron man type shit, invincible. Yo, so check it:

    "There is clear evidence that the perception of pain in adult human skin occurs just above 43°C. When the basal layer of the epidermis reaches 44°C, burn injury occurs. For superficial dermal burns, the rate of tissue damage increases logarithmically with a linear increase in temperature."
     
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  8. Kentucky Wax

    Kentucky Wax Active Member

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    They're sending me another one, it will be here Tuesday. We'll see how long this one lasts, but honestly I'm not hopeful. I'll probably use the Solo 2 as my daily driver, and use the Crafty when I go out. That way it won't get heavily used and will hopefully last a while. We shall see!
     
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  9. Buds of War

    Buds of War Chief the Herb

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    had a £50 of voucher plus a credit note from Namaste, got next day delivery and cost me £18.65 in total out of this wage, real pleased. got some dosing capsules as well which are real useful. i'm lovin it, love that i can customise shut of and have my phone vibrate and play an alert when its up to temp. nice and easy to use, exactly what i needed.
     
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  10. psychonaut

    psychonaut High as fuck

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    Crafty keeping up while out n about =)

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  11. UniqueCrafty

    UniqueCrafty ☆☆☆☆

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    Nice Picture! Where is it?
     
  12. psychonaut

    psychonaut High as fuck

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    Near the sangre de cristo mountains in southern CO
     
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  13. Sublimator427

    Sublimator427 Well-Known Member

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    The Crafty was the best portable dry herb vape but made useless by the terrible battery. I sold mine when I switched to concentrates only. Kept it nice and like new in the box, bid up just over $200. Brand new with a warranty isn't that much more. People really love these things and will do a lot to save a buck on them :rolleyes:
     
  14. Astedra

    Astedra Well-Known Member

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    The battery issue is not that bad unless you are traveling even then usb charger. So it could be worse.
     
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  15. KingslandingVape

    KingslandingVape New Member

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    External battery pack and no problem at all! I love mine even more then first day i got it!
     
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  16. Astedra

    Astedra Well-Known Member

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    The honey moon phase stopes when it needs warranty repair though lol, but I love mine to.
     
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  17. MikeG7265

    MikeG7265 Well-Known Member

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    I just received mine in the mail on Tuesday. After a few days with it, what took me so long!!?? The battery isn’t the greatest but IMO it does its job more efficiently than my other Vapes. Only wish I would have purchased one sooner. :leaf:
     
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  18. droog77

    droog77 Well-Known Member

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    A while back, in this thread, someone posted a source (in the US), for replacement screens and O rings. It was some kind of industrial supply company. The prices were much lower than the official replacements found in vape shops or from S&B.

    Just wondering if anyone has ever found a similar supplier in Canada. I want to get some of the fine screens. Vape shops sell a Crafty/Mighty screen pack, but you only get 6 screens, and only two of those are the fine screens. These packs cost $6-$10CDN, plus shipping. Way too much!!!

    Anyway, if anyone knows of a Canadian online vendor (or one that ships to Canada for a reasonable rate) for the fine screens, can you please let me know?

    Thanks!
     
  19. blackstone

    blackstone Well-Known Member

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    If you picked up a sheet of stainless fine mesh you could try cutting a near circle with scissors or you could look for some type of punch to cut them.

    Also try an ebay search for 15mm stainless fine screen?

    Or this is the same fine 6 pack under a different title in PlanetVape Canada, volcano/plenty reduced chamber uses them:
    https://www.planetvape.ca/plenty-normal-screen-set-small.html

    When you divide up two packs plus post, they're not that much each seeing as how you could make them last if cleaned properly.
    But maybe someone from Canada has found a better price?
     
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  20. Zheka

    Zheka Member

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    Have they changed box design for the new, better battery, version of Crafty? Is not it supposed to be white and blue with orange line as opposed to blue and orange? In general how does one tell new version from the original one? thank you
     
  21. vapen00b

    vapen00b various on-demand full convection units

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    Yep, the new one is the blue/white packaging. There’s no sticker anymore saying 20% extra.
    Other than that, I think you needed to check the firmware or manufacturing date - or the serial - with Storz n Bickel. They respond quickly.

    Hope this helps
     
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  22. Zheka

    Zheka Member

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    Thank you very much, this is very helpful.
    what's the firmware version on the latest models?
     
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  23. vapen00b

    vapen00b various on-demand full convection units

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    Glad I could help! :)

    I think it's V2.51 featuring all this:
    • Compatible with Apple Watch • Turn on your CRAFTY via App • "Find my CRAFTY" function • Extend the auto-shutoff time up to 5 minutes • Auto-shutoff countdown • Save previously connected serial numbers • User defined alarm tones
     
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  24. Polarbearboy

    Polarbearboy Tokin' Away Since 1968

    Just checked mine, purchased six weeks ago. Firmware is v2.53. Why don't I see any "Turn on your CRAFTY via App?" Am I looking in the wrong place?

    PS: I've been vaping for about four years now. Owned MFLB to CFX and CF to FF2 to this. I have had more fun with my Crafty, like a kid in a candy store. The dosing caps are a fantastic addition, making loading and unloading far far neater, cleaner and faster. I've been hooking it up via the mouthpiece(I do have the direct attaching water pipe adapter too) to a bubbler and loving it. Yes, much slower to heat up than the FF2 or even the CFX, but so much more consistent in giving good hits. Worth the wait.
     
  25. Modicum

    Modicum Well-Known Member

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    Hey Droog77, What have you done with the VapeDR.?
     
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