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Sublimator XLR

Discussion in 'Plug-in Vaporizers' started by PlanetVape, Feb 13, 2014.

  1. mayanhippy

    mayanhippy Permaculture regenerative LivingSoil

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    Any coupon codes or deals on sublimator ? Much appreciated. Should I wait til blaxk frieday or cyber monday?
     
  2. Vape Dr.

    Vape Dr. Well-Known Member

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    Hello all!:wave:
    I finally got my Sublimator!!!:rockon:

    I got this custom stainless steel beauty from @mestizo a great FC member an awesome fabricator and a straight up solid dude!:tup:

    Here it is direct draw from tube that threads into the base.

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    Here it is with a whip!

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    It has an ABV "tap out" container with a lid, an atomizer holder, and an Apollo head holder.:brow:

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    Inside the base is a stainless steel diffuser. I could technically fill the base with water if I wanted to.:haw:

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    Here it is with the water tool adapter and a couple pics. The tube unscrews and the WPA screws into the base.

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    I FREAKIN LOVE THIS THING!!!:love: THANK YOU @mestizo!!!

    I should have my sub cage and sub buddy this week, then I'm going to modify the atomizer handle!:)


    :science:
     
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  3. bellas

    bellas Well-Known Member

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    Jealousy rises in me. That is so sick.
     
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  4. Teedub

    Teedub Well-Known Member

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    That's awesome, did @mestizo make that?
     
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  5. Hogni

    Hogni Honi soit qui mal y pense

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    Hi Doc....real SS-Porn! Awesome!! Nearly perfect to my own thoughts

    After very impressed testing a sub two months ago now I've read the whole thread. 2 1/5 y. and the first real sub-customizing. I have waited for it all long the posts.

    BUT (IMO):

    I miss a reclaim catcher.
    A 45mm ring adapter would be nice.
    A customized cold wall - a little bit smaller body than the original and w/o this stupid large mouthpiece. This thing has to broke and is non-ergonomic tall. A 18,8 mm female joint instead for all mouthpiece/wipe purposes and safer handling. A nice icecold homebrew inside and all senses would be illuminated.

    And of course no monkey-shit for unreasonable 300 $ incl. power supply unit.
    Instead a PID in a - of course -SS-(Bottom-)Case.

    More than the Apollo-/Nail-Heaters and two Atomizers are not needed. All the other overpriced stuff is better customized probably improved processed and very likely not more expansive than original assecoires.

    Back to the monkey:

    I'm very irritated that all the time none of you sub aficionados has or has let constructed an intelligent temp controller especially of the fact that the monk is no rocket science but rather basic electric and most of you are bugged out the 1-h-timer?
    Is there no elelectrician or electronic engineer around here? Or is it just pot-procrastination? ;)

    Keep on customizing!
     
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  6. brucee10

    brucee10 Well-Known Member

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    I figured an Apollo head would be easy to copy. If you turned down the middle section for a 20mm coil and added a quartz dish you'd be in business. I can design it, but I can't make it. I do have a PiD control unit and extra 20mm coils I'd be willing to experiment with.
     
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  7. Hogni

    Hogni Honi soit qui mal y pense

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    Hi brucee...would be nice! Waiting for your report. Though I think copying of the heater is less worth.
     
  8. showman

    showman Well-Known Member

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    I got the Kryogenic condenser + e-nail from PV and it's great. Really smooth. Everyone who I've had try it has loved it.

    Curious which of the two people would recommend as far as apollo vs. dabmaster if I wanted to get something for flowers? I mainly use concentrates, so I thought I might get the dabmaster, but then I thought, I already have the nail to use with my concentrates, so I might as well get the apollo. Have you guys tried both or have suggestions on which to get?
     
  9. Hogni

    Hogni Honi soit qui mal y pense

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    The guys from sub say themself:


    WHY SO MANY HEATERS?!

    I currently only own the Apollo, I have however used all three heater styles.


    Apollo

    • Great for herbs
    • Can do oil
    • Can do double deckers

    Dabmaster

    • Great for double deckers
    • Good for herbs
    • Good for oil

    ENail

    • Great for oil
    • Not recommended for herbs

    Which do you want? If you’re primarily vaporizing dry herb, get the Apollo. The Apollo is designed for dry herb, and retains heat better than the Dabmaster.


    You can still enjoy oil by sticking it into the air intake holes, just remember not to block the hole completely with your dabber. If you miss a hole with a dab there is a good chance most of the vapor won’t make it into the Sub.


    If you’re looking to mix oil and herbs frequently, get the Dabmaster. The Dabmaster is an Apollo with easier access to the inner heater. Dabbing with the Dabmaster requires less aiming, and missing the hole with your dab isn’t a deal breaker, it’ll still get sucked in. Because the Dabmaster has less mass than the Apollo, it won’t retain heat as well and will not retain as much heat when you’re taxing it with back-to-back use. That being said, the Dabmaster will still outclass most non-Sublimator vaporizers in heat retention.


    The ENail is designed for oils. The air path through the ENail shoots directly into the bottom of the atomizer, as opposed to the Apollo and Dabmaster which direct the air to the atomizer walls, distributing the heat evenly through the entire atomizer chamber. The ENail is going to fry the herbs in the center of the atomizer without much regard for the outer edges. With enough tinkering a good double decker should be possible with the ENail, but it isn’t as dead simple as using the Apollo or Dabmaster.

    Söme user here say to keep taste of flowers pure dont mix it, use an own rig and heater for each occasion. So I would take the Apollo.
    Perhaps later for concentrates the Sub-Enail as I have another Enail like you.
     
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  10. Poostuff

    Poostuff Well-Known Member

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    Wow the sub hits even harder now, thanks for the iolite screen suggestions guys.
     
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  11. TerrorTwist

    TerrorTwist Vapor Demon

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    I took a double-decker hit and man does the Sub ever milk the bubbler up! Everyone that I let try-out the Sub so far said it's killer and I would agree. My brother told me he had to stop using the Sub because it was too strong for him compared to smoking it or a regular vape.
    Click to play YouTube Video
     
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  12. Hogni

    Hogni Honi soit qui mal y pense

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    Is the sub a good way for exploiting rosin chips?

    After all I have heard ABV from sub isnt usable anymore cause of full extraction by the sub?
     
  13. Poostuff

    Poostuff Well-Known Member

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    Great video @TerrorTwist had to watch it twice, although it's more fun watching them now I have one of my own. Cheers.
    @Hogni you could use the ABV from the sub if you ran it at lower temperatures & you'd also get more hits but did you see that video, that's what the sub is all about!
     
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  14. showman

    showman Well-Known Member

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    Thanks! I think I'll get the Apollo over the Dabmaster to complement my e-nail, sonce I'd rather keep oils and flowers separate, I think
     
  15. JRR22611

    JRR22611 Well-Known Member

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    Dabmaster owners:
    Has anyone noticed rusting (or at least the colour and texture of rust) on the threaded heating probe?
     
  16. anasrzi

    anasrzi Well-Known Member

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    How does the sub do with pure hashish? I know first hand via a double decker it handles oils very well but if I got one in the future (adapta kit most probably as the kits are very over priced IMO, this is my own opinion after seeing first hand the kits I can't see why the high price?) I'd be using it mostly for herbs but I'd like to chuck in a small blob of bubble direct into the funnel along with the herb, sort of a double decker as opposed to dabbing that on the heating element.

    Would this work or not? I expect it would given the heat used?
     
  17. brucee10

    brucee10 Well-Known Member

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    I expect that it would work extremely well. I love dumping a scoop of kief on my flowers for a little bit of a boost and I've also compressed my kief and used little chunks. I'd try to grind the Hashish in to a chucky powder so it has more surface area and use that. It should make your bowls last a bit longer too.
     
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  18. JRR22611

    JRR22611 Well-Known Member

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    What you described would certainly work with the sublimtor and ,in my opinion, Sublimator is the most efficient vaporizer for doing so.
    That being said they're a b*tch for lack of better term to clean. The hashish and bud will eventually cake a black layer of burnt residue on the inside of the chamber/ atomizer, which will produce an undesirable smoke if not cleaned often.
    I stopped using my sub just because I don't have time to keep it clean.
     
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  19. brucee10

    brucee10 Well-Known Member

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    I use PBW or OxyClean and boiling water. I just soak the bowl and the atomizer head for 10 minutes and then wipe them out with paper towel. Heavy grime sometimes requires multiple cleanings.
     
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  20. JRR22611

    JRR22611 Well-Known Member

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    With this method ( I really like the idea of boiling the parts, but sublimator stressed to me never to do this as if they're paranoid their "medical grade metals" will contaminate or rust) do you loose the "seasoning" of the metal?
     
  21. brucee10

    brucee10 Well-Known Member

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    My Ti Apollo head maintains all of it's heat anodizing and my atomizer is rust free. I just make sure that I dry it completely and use it shortly after cleaning.
     
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  22. anasrzi

    anasrzi Well-Known Member

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    Don't mind doing a strip down and cleaning it all fully after a good bit of use @JRR22611 idealky not after each session but I quite like keeping them all clean and shiny sort of miss it as I only now own portable vape's only which are a breeze to clean as it is.

    I'd keep the chunks pretty small just a little here and there I would imagine it will help it milk up even more than wth just plain old bud, use slivers of hash with my Milaana and that works well with a good deal of pre heating to get it up to vaping hash temp, I doubt the sub would care what was dumped into it still umps out the vapour regardless.

    Did you sell your sub @JRR22611 or is it being saved for a rainy day when you have the time to enjoy and clean it :)
     
  23. JRR22611

    JRR22611 Well-Known Member

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    I hear so many people say exposing high grade metals to water can cause corrosion but I say it's just fine when the metal is properly dried.
    Technically due to the porosity of Ti, it can be contaminated causing corrosion via even an acute ppm of minerals and metals that are naturally occurring in some of our water - in the case the water isn't dried from the metal.
    Also be aware you can contaminate your metal by giving it the ol' wire brush treatment as the wire might be less than pure metal and rubbing/brushing will invite small particles into the microscopic pores of Ti.
    Never use a cheap teflon brush or something plastic.
    In my opinion boiling works great as it seems the heated metal purges the water of its surface rapidly.
     
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  24. MGG

    MGG Well-Known Member

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  25. creationdivine

    creationdivine Well-Known Member

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    I just ordered the Ti atomizer with the short stem, mostly because it will fit a few pieces of glass I just bought a little better. That, and I haven't been able to unscrew my original atomizer for over a year now. Sub oil got in between the threads a little too deep and now it's fused together for good. Even if I heat it up real good and put it in a vice, I can't get it to budge whatsoever. I've done long ISO soaks hoping that would do it, no luck. I gripped it with some pliers and scratched the hell out of it..

    Still works great though! I plan to treat this new one much better. I'm excited to see if the Ti changes heat up time and flavor much.

    Anyone order anything directly from their site recently? I still haven't received shipping confirmation or tracking for mine yet. I was going to order through PlanetVape but the price difference was over $30 and didn't come with both 14 & 18 mm adapters.
     
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