Discussion in 'Vaporization Discussion' started by stoned-chihuahua, Mar 3, 2018.
What means 446F in *C ?
Greetings from Europe
230 degrees celsius. For future conversion, try "xxxF to C" as google search term.
This hot. This much.
Too hot for me
a question again.
Is the Temp by all mobile and desktop Vape´s the same ?
I cant i mage that a little mobile vape make the same heat like my extreme q
446= 446 ? right ?
446 on one vape will not be the same as 446 on another of the same vape even unfortunately there will be a slight difference between units. Between different models/makes expect the numbers to be different. So this means that the temperature displayed on your vaporizer isnt a great number for the temperature the herb is actually at, but rather its a guideline for you, so you know that you will be getting about the same experience each time, with the same vape.
I suggest some reading http://vaporpedia.com/wiki/Vaporizing_Effects_by_Temperature
I cant find the link Im trying to find right now, but Ill keep looking
This has always been my goto study of vaping temps..
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In my opinion When they said the most cannabinoids and byproduct there is no time scale so at 230 your getting all content much faster, more cannabinoids probably that are boiling in higher temps but you missing all terpènes and lower temp cannabinoids
With all due respect, I wanted to mention that this study goes only up to 400F and does not take spliffs into account. It compares the performance of a particular vaporizer in temperature settings ranging from 300 to 400F with 20F intervals. It does not contradict the findings of the study the OP provided.
To OP thanks for posting that. It may explain why some people have a hard time switching full time to vaping and why there are so many fans of unregulated devices. Really interesting stuff.
@Martian and others, you can try making a longer path to get a cooler vape and try out what the study suggests. For example, I use a 100ml dropper in my fenix or a silicone tube I have secured in the mouthpiece. The vapor is smooth and cool that way
and since I read some rage (could be wrong but hey), to all others I have to say that all this doesn't mean YOU have to vape that way. Not everyone desires the same effect, or have the same needs. It's all fine
Thanks for that link!! Very useful research that makes me realize that my Storz&Bickel Plenty isn't a good machine; it only goes up to 420 degrees. Well, I like my vape pen better these days anyways...
I don't believe very many people here would ever go over 420F for dry herb. I believe most never actually vape as high as 420F. A couple of my favorite vapes don't even go over 400F.
So we just can't reach that magic number 446, I guess...
as far as I know this one article is the only place you'll find 446 even mentioned when it comes to vaping dry herbs but there are plenty of vapes you can do it with.
It makes sense to me. I use unregulated heating when I need the most pain relief. Maybe that's due to getting more CBN amounts than at a lower temperature.
So do you think the research was flawed? Or is it just a tempest in a tea pot? I mean, I've always gotten nice and high by vaping; it's just imagining hitting that perfect 446 spot that makes you see the meaning of the whole cosmos ...
I don't think there is a perfect anything on planet Earth but I feel the study points to the notion lower temps can improve one's high. This is good to know, but I can't help but think this may also be a 'vapecentric study' more than an accurate study.
I still like and get something different from high temp vaping with my shower head.
I've been running the VROD at 100F less than the shower head and I can't say for a certainty which way is getting me higher.
Hmmm, maybe because I'm always high? More research needed.
Ok, the Vapir study relieved my concerns about my Plenty. I guess the research is a lot more varied in its results than I thought after reading the other study. Thanks for this link!!
"With all due respect" to the OP, that 2009 study in the Netherlands goal was to prove vaping is better than burning, while the 2014 Vapir in CA study was designed to establish the best temp for actual vaping (of dry herb).
So the 2009 study that states 446f releases "the most cannabinoids", but that doesn't mean it's the best or ideal vaping temp. That wasn't the point of the study.
Here's an example from https://www.herbonaut.com/best-temperature-to-vape-weed/#impact-vaping-experience
Here's a medical doctor that suggests the "healthiest" vaping temps are 175 – 200°C (347 – 392°F)
Just look at vaping pre-sets for most vapes - 350-400f
Not too many go above 420f for a reason. (Most vapes that go higher do it for concentrates)
with only a quick read-through, it seems the 446°F is optimal for a single bag extraction. That is, more cannabinoids will be extracted at once at such a high temp. But, at lower temps the cannabinoids didn't disappear, they are still in the sample and can fill another one or two bags.
I like running my vape at 385°F, and it takes a dozen hits to vape through a 0.1 gram load. But the first hit is the heaviest with all the lower temp volatiles being extracted - it's heavenly.
Also, at 446°F it appears there are a lot more byproducts - which i assume would be the lipids that are vaporized at the higher temp. i don't want to inhale those. The lower temp results have much lower byproducts and i would guess they would be even lower on the second and third bag on the same load. So, more THC and less lipids, for 3 bags at lower temp versus one bag at 446°F. Maybe?
Wish they would have analyzed the load after each vape test. And put a temp probe in the load - just to check.
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