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Silver Surfer Vaporizer

Discussion in 'Plug-in Vaporizers' started by vtac, Oct 26, 2007.

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  1. acolyte

    acolyte Member

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    When I first started using the glass on glass, the wand kept falling out (when I wasn't looking) so I didn't know how it happened. Anyways, after I saw the tip to twist the wand, it hasn't fallen out since.

    Be sure to give it a very light twist, like a 1/32nd turn.. I twisted it about a quarter turn once, and it got stuck. I had to turn off the unit to let it cool and take some time separating the glass.

    -vbeazy that looks great, I ordered it. Price actually beat most of dhgate.
     
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  2. grokit

    grokit well-worn member

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    Not really, mine gets resined in there pretty well but I use a basket screen mod as well. You could also try a larger size screen, which will make it harder to get in/out but it would be less prone to moving around.

    Or you could try flattening yours out after you insert it, maybe that would help it stay in place for you.

    :sherlock:
     
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  3. steama

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    a basket screen mod is the way to go for sure :tup:
     
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  4. acolyte

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    What's the best way to do a basket mod? Searching doesn't come up with much.. I've been aware of the ddave mod for a while now, but I like to do things myself and was curious if there's a good diy option to go with the standard GG heater cover.

    Also, I might have just fixed my screen problem.. I'm using .625" stainless screens which are a tiny bit bigger than the 7th floor screens (.58"). So I was putting too much of a curve on it to make it fit.

    I'm now just putting a very slight curve in it, then finaggling with it more to get it in the wand. That seems to provide a better seat and seal on the bottom. The upwards curve still does seem to work really well.
     
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  5. grokit

    grokit well-worn member

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    You need the standard ground glass wand and heater cover, then you just add an arizer basket screen to the end of the wand. This will also work with da buddha and light saber heater covers/wands.

    [​IMG]
     
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  6. CalyxSmokr

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    I think your screen is not all the way in. When it is properly placed the fit is very tight. I think it goes under 2 of the glass nipples and over the other.
     
  7. Vapordreamer

    Vapordreamer Well-Known Member

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    Ok, so something quite sad happened.
    I hooked up my SSV to a water pipe and stuck the whip directly into the water pipe which created a vacuum and shot the water directly into the electronics. There were small flames and lightning and then one of the cables melted to the side.
    I am based in Europe and bought this vape like 6 years ago. The SSV has been taken from the European market and warranty has expired.
    The orange light turns still one but not the heating element.
    It seems only one cable is broken.
    Do you think I can just go to any electrician and tell them to fix it? (I am living in NL by the way).
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    photo sharing
     
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  8. Prolusio

    Prolusio Well-Known Member

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    That black wire is the one you're referring too? Looks pretty flat to me. I believe that wire comes right off the dimmer switch to the heating element.. It would not have melted unless something inside the SSV shorted out causing too much current to be drawn; so one of your components could be fried unfortunately. That would explain the lighting, since the wire jacket is still intact you can pretty safely assume it did not short out against the SSV body and one of the components was the cause instead.

    Since the LED is still lighting up this leads me to think the dimmer is still partly working, at least enough to allow current through for the LED, so it could be the heating element itself that is no longer functioning.. You'd probably have to check it out with a meter to be sure which part is the culprit though. Maybe that wire is just adding too much resistance for the heating element now that it's all melted? Hard to say with just a picture unfortunately.

    All of the components should be easy for a competent electrician to replace/diagnose! (source, I am an electrician) 7th floor sells an at-home repair kit so you should be able to contact them for the replacement parts; I doubt it'd be easy for someone to source the right parts from their supplier, but it's possible. 7th floor also has a video showing how to replace the dimmer/heating element if you have some tools and feel like giving it a shot!

    Click to play YouTube Video
     
  9. Vapordreamer

    Vapordreamer Well-Known Member

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    Awesomem thx for the quick reply :).
    Yeah, the black wire is the one I am referring to.
    So in the best case only the wire adds too much resistance and I just need one new wire.
    I don't really know what checking with a meter means though.
    The replacement process seems simple enough for me but don't really know what kind of wires I need and if they sell the same wires also in Europe or if there are differences in units.
    Either way reparing my existing unit will be probably cheaper than to get a new one.\

    Maybe I can just find out the wire I need somehow and then replace it myself and if the heating element is not working trying to buy a new one from 7th floor.
    I really wanna avoid shipping stuff from the US though.
     
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  10. Prolusio

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    Sorry this got long, I ramble when I get interested!

    Yes best case scenario it's just that wire.. but something had to short out to cause that wire to melt in the first place, so something could be broken. Might have just been the moisture though, if you're lucky! If you replace that one wire but not the broken part it's attached to you could see more sparks though; potentially even damaging another component in the process. I wouldn't replace that wire before checking out the dimmer/heater just to be safe.

    100% confident that the type of wire is not special, it's typical stranded copper wire you should be able to pick it up at any hardware store. It's hard to tell from the image but I believe the size is either #14 or #16 AWG. It might be stamped on the wire in small writing. The sizing is backwards, #14 is larger than #16. If you're not sure go with #14 AWG (~2.08 mm2, 28/.03 stranding if that means anything to you?), it can handle more than enough current for the SSV.

    I guess you guys might use a different wire sizing though? Honestly as long as it doesn't look to be smaller wire you'll be ok...

    The colour of the wire is not important it's just to help keep things separate. Just make sure the wire you get is stranded copper, isn't visually smaller than the wire in the SSV, and can fit in a crimp connector like the one currently on the bad wire for easy install. (They're called nylon fully insulated disconnects. The colour on these does matter, different colours are different sizes). Alternatively you could use a wire nut or push connector to join the wires, if you have trouble finding crimp connectors.

    Unfortunately now that I look closer it seems the wire coming off of the dimmer is soldered on.. so you'll either have to do some soldering to reattach a new wire to it; or see if part of the wire coming off of the dimmer is still intact enough to splice onto before where it melted.

    When I mentioned a meter I meant using a multimeter to check out the resistance of the individual components.. I think it's probably the only way a person could reliably figure out what still fully works, other than the old trial and error test of course. But just be careful if you decide to get a meter! They're extremely useful tools and it's easy to find affordable ones, there's tons of good tutorials on how to use them.. BUT - They are not safe to use on LIVE circuits unless you are 100% confident in their operation, seriously they can explode.

    You wouldn't need to use it on anything powered/live to check the resistance, so it's not dangerous to use it to check your SSV parts..just obligatory PSA for when you find out how cool meters are and want to start checking everything you own :p:science:.

    If it were my SSV... I would take everything apart and measure the resistance of the heater and the dimmer (which is pretty much just a potentiometer I think? Hard to see but I think it's just mounted on a board) to see if their measured resistance values match up with the expected factory values.

    If I got a resistance (Ohms) that's way off then I know that component is damaged, no way around it I'd just have to replace it. If the resistance values match up with what they're supposed to then I SHOULD be totally safe to just replace that melted wire and fire it up. Probably would have to contact 7th floor for the right factory resistance values though, not sure they would be visible.

    I think so too! I was going to get an LSV during the 4/20 sales but they wanted over $50 usd for shipping!?:cry: Then there's the import fees.. yikes. The work itself isn't too difficult, other than the soldering can be a little tricky.. But it's already broken right? Not much to lose!

    Anyways, hopefully something in all that rambling was clear/useful to you @Vapordreamer! I'd be happy to provide more assistance in a PM or something if you try to tackle it yourself and have some difficulty. I've also heard 7th floor is pretty good to deal with over the phone so they might be able to provide you some support!

    Good luck! Let us know how the repairs go; hopefully you'll be riding the wave again soon!
     
  11. Vapordreamer

    Vapordreamer Well-Known Member

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    Thx Prolusio,

    I will definitely keep in touch with you via PM.
    I really want to repair this unit but do not know if soldering is something I can do since I have no power tools or if I should outsource that to an electrician.
    Also measuring resistance is a process I am not familiar with (yet).
    I am gonna read some more through the links you provided.

    In the mean time I also got contacted by someone from 7th floor themselves and they were so kind to offer me a new heating element or dimmer switch for a relatively small fee.
    So if either one of these components is broken, I can replace it :).
     
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  12. acolyte

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    vbeazy, that pick tool is the absolute tops for clearing the ssv bowl.
     
  13. in8won

    in8won Live every day like you are on vacation

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    Hi, I love my ssv too. My only complaint is that it eats up herbs fast. The nanotechnology wand sounds like an amazing idea. I will look for more information on this but please reply if you can help me out. Thanks
     
  14. Vitolo

    Vitolo Vaporist

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    I use Standard Hand Held wand with a standard HC.
    I use a taller wand than some patients, but I get perfect thick hits whether I fill the wand full, halfway, or even .1 of a gram get equal vapor. (the .1 only goes for a few hits though..)
     
  15. prome99

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    So I realize y'all posted back in 2011, but did you ever find one? I was cleaning out my closet downstairs and found a Mind Eraser and a Life Saber in it's case still. We've had a bunch of housemates in and out of the house but none of them said it was theirs, and I don't smoke so I was going to end up selling them both. :huh: I've spent hours Googling it and the only mentions of the SSV Mind Eraser is in threads on here, and on another forum.... figured it'd be worth it to make an account and try seeing if you were still active!

    e: Just noticed that Beer managed to snag it in 2013... :rip::rip::doh:
     
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  16. acolyte

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    Could you post some pictures of it? I'm really curious how it looks or what it is.. I'm in love with my ssv since I got it! We do have a classifieds section but you need to be a contributing member to post there.

    I know you don't smoke so you may not find it that interesting but I'm sooo curious :) If you could upload pics it would be greatly appreciated.
     
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  17. Vitolo

    Vitolo Vaporist

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    There was nothing different about the "Mind Eraser" model of the SSV other than the art.
    When ordering an SSV they offer a "Waverider Series", on which they can print anything you wish.
    The Mind Eraser was an artistic rendition with colorful cartoon-like art on it.
    The Mind Eraser was one of the winners in a competition for designs on the SSV.
    I entered but did not win.. (my design was simply my logo... "the Vaporist SSV")
    [​IMG]
    The Mind Eraser was art on a regular SSV.
     
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  18. acolyte

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    I see, thanks.. I did several minutes of searching and couldn't find ANY pictures of it, just mentions of it and how the laser cutout design was too error-prone to continue development, hence WRS.

    I wonder if they were all lost on an image host, like imageshack. I'm still curious to see the custom art for it, I have a plain white ssv with blue base right now that I bought used, but I will probably want to upgrade it at some point.

    WRS looks so cool too! But I'm not ready to drop the cash right now.

    My girlfriend tried the ssv the other day and she said it was really cool. Then the next day she said she was thinking of buying one.

    That's really impressive, she has never said that about my MFLB, volcano, dab rig, or other vapes I have. Seems she's not that interested in "teching out" like me, she's happy with a plain straight tube bong (which she only uses about once a week).

    Silver surfer kicks ass!
     
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  19. Vitolo

    Vitolo Vaporist

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  20. Prolusio

    Prolusio Well-Known Member

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    I couldn't find any images of the Mind Eraser either, curious now!

    I have a Seeing is Believing Super Surfer. Really like the wave rider series
    [​IMG]
     
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  21. slozukimc

    slozukimc Well-Known Member

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    It is a black and white print optical illusion type pattern.
     
  22. Vitolo

    Vitolo Vaporist

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    This WaveRider is called "Incubus"
    [​IMG]
    The Mind Eraser could very well be among these:
    [​IMG]
     
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  23. slozukimc

    slozukimc Well-Known Member

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  24. Vitolo

    Vitolo Vaporist

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    @slozukimc .... GOOD JOB!
    We have been talking about it and unable to locate it.
    FC has great google search items, and now it will always be available when one types "SSV Mind Eraser" into search engines!
    The SSV Mind Eraser:
    [​IMG]
    [​IMG]
     
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  25. slozukimc

    slozukimc Well-Known Member

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    I can't take the credit for finding the pic. This is a pic that @prome99 sent me so I could see what it is.

    Mike

     
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